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D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« on: May 08, 2018, 12:59:50 PM »

Which one would you choose? I am having my bike retuned at R and R cycle and want max low end and top end power so I am switching to a 2 into 1 per there recommendation. He recommended the Bassani, but said both would work well power wise. I called Bassani and they recommended the B4 if I go with the Road Rage. Thoughts?
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 01:21:49 PM »

I have the D&D Fat Cat and absolutely love it. No first hand experience with the Bassani, but they sure do look nice finish wise on any of the pipes I've seen.


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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2018, 08:38:13 PM »

D and D recommended the Boarzilla.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2018, 09:40:55 PM »

It depends on the engine build.  You provided no details on what you are putting the exhaust on.  That said, I’ve never seen the Bassani out perform a D&D.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2018, 08:04:20 AM »

117 with 10.7 to 1 compression, tman 590 Cam, 58mm throttle body 5.3 injectors and head work by Suburban speed. Right now with Vance and Hines power duals and OS450 rounds it pulled 124 HP and 133 TQ. It’s just a little soft down low due to the 2.5 baffles. It’s still at 95lb at 2500 rpm though.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2018, 08:10:10 AM »

The Boarzilla sounds loud lol. Maybe to loud.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2018, 12:51:53 PM »

The Boarzilla sounds loud lol. Maybe to loud.

I have the Boarzilla on my 117" with the wrapped baffle. It smooths out some on the highway, but still sounds like you're getting chased by a helicopter. I've learned to love it because it sounds mean as Hell.

The Zilla really suits big motors with big power. Your bike isn't a slouch by any means, but I'd get some input from experts (which isn't me :) ) on what the Zilla may do to your low end at 10.7:1, and ~125hp.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2018, 10:27:00 PM »

Any other input here gentlemen? I’m having a hard time pulling the trigger.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2018, 07:58:53 AM »

D & D performs well and is loud! to loud for me on a long trip on the eway! so I went to Rinehart!
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2018, 03:13:22 PM »

Opted for road rage B4 in chrome with megaphone and black tip.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2018, 11:04:49 AM »

Dropped off bike today. I will do a follow up post with my results after dyno and Bassani Roadrage B4.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2018, 09:24:38 PM »

Dropped off bike today. I will do a follow up post with my results after dyno and Bassani Roadrage B4.

Good choice. I have heard both in person, and I don't like the D&D sound. The Bassani Roadrage sounds deeper and more Harley-like.

And, I'm willing to bet that performance difference, if any, are negligible and not enough to notice.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2018, 09:29:20 PM »

Thanks Northstar. I will update with a review after I pick up my bike. I bought the Roadrage based on  what you just said and the advice of  the tuner at R&R. They said these  where  the best two performing exhaust they have used.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2018, 07:42:31 PM »

Update, lost power and cant stand how it sounds! What a waste of time and money! Picked up 10 ft at 2500 rpm but maxes out 11 ft pounds lower and sounds like a POS!
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2018, 07:43:01 PM »

O and they forgot to put a bolt in the exhaust header!
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2018, 03:56:17 PM »

Ok, they helped me get the missing  bolt size and I replaced it on my ride home. I am slo adjusting to my 1st 2 into 1 pipe and starting to like it, it’s loud though LOL. The low end power is insane and he told me his dyno reads accurate Wichita equates to about 10% lower the most🤣
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2018, 12:06:12 AM »

So Im confused....is it a slow POS, or does it have insane low end power?

Im guessing once the exhaust leak was fixed (missing bolt), the issues were gone?

Also, its pretty much mandatory you post your dyno sheet  ;D
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2018, 06:03:49 PM »

North Star, I was pissed when I 1st posted after seeing a dyno sheet with 11 less TQ plus missing a mounting bolt but once I got my mind around the fact their dyno reads lower then most and relaxed, I realized the power is all there on top and way better down low LOL. I can’t get my dyno sheet to post because of the file size but I’m trying🤓 the exhaust is way roudier then what I had before and I’m getting used to it now but might try to quite it down a little if I can.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2018, 07:45:21 AM »

I ended up bringing my bike to Big Boyz in Maine and he spent 8 hours tuning it on his 4 gas dyno. It runs really well now, but it’s tough to ride in slower traffic because it wants to get up and go. On off throttle at low speeds is abrupt. He was amazed at how flat my TQ curve was. It hit just under max TQ at 2500 rpm climbed slowly to 3500 and stayed there till over 5000 rpm, almost a completely flat line. The bike has a super strong low end and still builds HP till 6000 rpm. I was riding on the highway with my friend that has a built 103 heads cam compression and he was down shifting to 5th at 80 and I was pulling him in 6th. The bike buries the speedo with ease. I just need to get use to the low speed manners. It feels like a caged animal trying to get lose unless I’m super careful about throttle input. All in all a great combo for top to bottom power!
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2018, 09:30:45 AM »

Low speed throttle response is completely tunable With the throttle blade control and timing tables.  There should be no “off & on” type feel to it.
Sounds like you’re almost there!  Enjoy!
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2018, 09:16:09 PM »

Glad it worked out for you. Bet it sounds mean too.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2018, 07:34:20 AM »

Update, after spending 2 months with the Bassani B4 I can say I’m completely satisfied. It has broken in and sounds amazing. My muffler discolored during my dyno tune and after speaking to Bassani they shipped out a new one under warranty. Great service, great looks, great sound and incredible power characteristics.
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Re: D AND D FAT CAT OR BASSANI ROADRAGE B4
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2018, 10:28:06 AM »

Nice to hear that worked out so well! Historically, I'm a huge fan of D&D but I may have to add the RR to my arsenal
(bag of tricks).

My 110s typically average 129/129 with flat TQ from 2200-5500 using the Borezilla. From what you're
describing, the RoadRage can also fit the bill on these. (Be nice to see a TQ graph from your 117) I may have
to try one of those pipes on my next guena-pig.

Sound and looks are not usually high on my priority list, and it'd be nice to have another option/supplier to choose
from.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

-MC
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