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Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« on: August 12, 2008, 02:11:54 AM »

OK, I'm toying with the idea of adding Brembo brakes to my SEUC². This is not an '08 with ABS. I'm looking for some better stopping power especially in the rear. On occasion, I have had the rear brake almost fail due to excessive heat. This occurred during a MSF class where I was riding them pretty hard however, I have been with Ken (Hogbreath) on the Dragon when his rear brake was almost non-existent.  As an added bonus, I like the looks of the additional chrome.
Can the calipers & pads just be changed? Or is there more to this installation on an '07 SE? Has anyone else done this? Can the parts come from HD through Jenni or can Jim (HD Dude) get them? And finally, if cost is out of reason, should i just change pads for better performance? I have just replaced the pads within the last 3000 miles with stock HD pads.
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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2008, 11:44:15 AM »

OK, I'm toying with the idea of adding Brembo brakes to my SEUC². This is not an '08 with ABS. I'm looking for some better stopping power especially in the rear. On occasion, I have had the rear brake almost fail due to excessive heat. This occurred during a MSF class where I was riding them pretty hard however, I have been with Ken (Hogbreath) on the Dragon when his rear brake was almost non-existent.  As an added bonus, I like the looks of the additional chrome.
Can the calipers & pads just be changed? Or is there more to this installation on an '07 SE? Has anyone else done this? Can the parts come from HD through Jenni or can Jim (HD Dude) get them? And finally, if cost is out of reason, should i just change pads for better performance? I have just replaced the pads within the last 3000 miles with stock HD pads.
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I have installed chrome Brembo brakes (calipers and rotors) front and rear.  The performance is fantastic.

I purchased thru QTMI - they are the direct importer from Italy.

www.qtmi.com

Somewhere there is a thread with part numbers, prices and pictures of what I installed...
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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2008, 11:55:18 AM »

 
More info. here, too: http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=3848.0

Awesome performance and just what the big bagger needed, but pricey.  If cost is an issue, definitely try the Lydall pads, first.

Never heard of a rear brake fading, though. :confused5:  If anything, lock-up is an issue, typically. :nixweiss:
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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2008, 07:48:37 PM »

OK, I'm toying with the idea of adding Brembo brakes to my SEUC². This is not an '08 with ABS. I'm looking for some better stopping power especially in the rear. On occasion, I have had the rear brake almost fail due to excessive heat. This occurred during a MSF class where I was riding them pretty hard however, I have been with Ken (Hogbreath) on the Dragon when his rear brake was almost non-existent.  As an added bonus, I like the looks of the additional chrome.
Can the calipers & pads just be changed? Or is there more to this installation on an '07 SE? Has anyone else done this? Can the parts come from HD through Jenni or can Jim (HD Dude) get them? And finally, if cost is out of reason, should i just change pads for better performance? I have just replaced the pads within the last 3000 miles with stock HD pads.
Thanks.

Based on our conversation, you're talking about going with the HD Brembo units found on the 08+. You can do the front, but not the back. The rear master cylinder has a totally different frame mount and won't retrofit.

You can do the fronts without problem, but not the rear. You'd have to go to aftermarket parts to do the rear.

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 08:48:02 PM »

OK, I'm toying with the idea of adding Brembo brakes to my SEUC². This is not an '08 with ABS. I'm looking for some better stopping power especially in the rear. On occasion, I have had the rear brake almost fail due to excessive heat. This occurred during a MSF class where I was riding them pretty hard however, I have been with Ken (Hogbreath) on the Dragon when his rear brake was almost non-existent.  As an added bonus, I like the looks of the additional chrome.
Can the calipers & pads just be changed? Or is there more to this installation on an '07 SE? Has anyone else done this? Can the parts come from HD through Jenni or can Jim (HD Dude) get them? And finally, if cost is out of reason, should i just change pads for better performance? I have just replaced the pads within the last 3000 miles with stock HD pads.
Thanks.

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I recently completed the '08 Brembo Front Conversion on my '07 Ultra.  At the requests of several Forum Members, I did a complete write-up with pics and part numbers.  Don't have it hosted anywhere at the moment, but if you'd like I'll be glad to zip it up and email to you.  The zip is 1.5Mb and I have received several positive replies on the Conversion write-up.

If your interested, just send me an email at:

hogrider"at"suddenlink"dot"net and I'll send you a copy.  The file is for entertainment purposes only!   :oops:

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 09:08:28 PM »

hard:

I recently completed the '08 Brembo Front Conversion on my '07 Ultra.  At the requests of several Forum Members, I did a complete write-up with pics and part numbers.  Don't have it hosted anywhere at the moment, but if you'd like I'll be glad to zip it up and email to you.  The zip is 1.5Mb and I have received several positive replies on the Conversion write-up.

If your interested, just send me an email at:

hogrider"at"suddenlink"dot"net and I'll send you a copy.  The file is for entertainment purposes only!   :oops:

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I think your article is what has him thinking out loud. ;)

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 09:16:27 PM »

One thing I can state, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is the Conversion is one of the best upgrades I have ever done to a motorcycle!

Everyone talks about going fast; few talk about about giving it great "whoa"!

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 09:23:32 PM »

One thing I can state, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is the Conversion is one of the best upgrades I have ever done to a motorcycle!

Everyone talks about going fast; few talk about about giving it great "whoa"!

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Any idea of the $$$ required to do the front in chrome instead of with black take-offs?

I don't think it makes sense putting black controls on a CVO.

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 09:27:53 PM »

My Conversion write-up lists individual part numbers if buying everything seperately.

Just sub the Chrome Brembos for the black ones.  And new H-D calipers come with springs/pins/retainers and new factory pads.

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 11:22:24 PM »

WVULTRA, I'll send you an email.

What I was most interested in however is the rear. I know Brian said he hasn't heard of it being a problem but I experienced it. (Not saying that you doubt me.) When I applied the rear brake it felt like there was nothing there. The pedal went all the way down. As a matter of fact, Chuck was there when it happened. Of course I like the chrome!

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 11:34:06 PM »

I think we 07 Trike drivers would think the front conversion would be a terrific idea.  We have such enormous stopping power with the rear (2) wheels disc's and wide tires that the front stopping power is "out of balance".  And the thought of more chrome . . .  now if I can just find some dollars!

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2008, 05:36:04 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, what happened to my brakes is the brake fluid overheated. I'd been riding the brakes a lot and pretty hard, when suddenly the pedal went to the bottom and I had no rear brake at all. After the fluid cooled off, it was fine. I'd never heard of that before. It's definately a weird feeling though.
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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2008, 06:55:38 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, what happened to my brakes is the brake fluid overheated. I'd been riding the brakes a lot and pretty hard, when suddenly the pedal went to the bottom and I had no rear brake at all. After the fluid cooled off, it was fine. I'd never heard of that before. It's definately a weird feeling though.

Riding the brakes will do that.
It's not that uncommon on a Harley in the twisties.
It will make you pucker the first time you hit the brakes and have none!
Been there done that, gave away the t-shirt.

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2008, 07:46:45 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, what happened to my brakes is the brake fluid overheated. I'd been riding the brakes a lot and pretty hard, when suddenly the pedal went to the bottom and I had no rear brake at all. After the fluid cooled off, it was fine. I'd never heard of that before. It's definately a weird feeling though.

Right! That's exactly how it felt to me. Now the $1200 dollar question is will the Brembo setup fix this?

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Re: Brembo Brakes for an SEUC²
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 07:54:04 AM »

Right! That's exactly how it felt to me. Now the $1200 dollar question is will the Brembo setup fix this?

Will the 1200 dollars spent keep you from riding your brakes?
If yes then all is well, if no then send me the 1200 and we will stay on your a$$ about riding the rear brake!
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You got my mailing address to send the check?

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