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[Fatboy]

DC,

 Thanks for making the extra effort to get this done and for keeping us all in the loop.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

 Looking forward to the test results!

Fatboy

[Twolanerider]

OK the bike is there. There are 3 cams to be tested. Cam number 1 is in fact Zippers Red Shift 557 in the gear driven variety. Cams 2 and 3 are test versions

That's even more than the news to date would have had us hoping for.  Great news and appreciated initiative on their part.  The other two cams are likely the ones Harry has in hand.  Will be interesting to see comparative results of their work with those cams in your bike versus the same cams worked through with another tuner.

Obviously three sets of install and tuning time will be longer than the one RedShift set that had been part of the original plan.  News on all as they work through them will be anxiously awaited though.  Thanks again and (if the Zipper's guy is lurking) thanks for making the efforts both with and through Mike and Harry.  

[BLM777]

Just chiming in to thank both Mike and Harry.  I think this is an opportunity to really have the best of both worlds test data out front.  Zippers is obviously a top shelf manufacturer with real R&D genius and for those of you who might not be aware, Jim Brown, the dyno man working with Harry is as good as they get in my opinion.  I've used Jim on my bikes and have recommended him maybe 50 or so times.  He's compulsive about doing the job right, works with PC3, Race Tuner and Thundermax and most importantly provides honest numbers.  This should be a lot of fun and a real trial and error money saver.

[DCFIREMANN]

Just chiming in to thank both Mike and Harry.

[skippy49]

I'm interested also.  Keep us posted as a cam/head package is what I'm looking for.  Was going to do it early this winter, but may have to wait a little to see what they come up with.

[skippy49]

Do you know if they will go as far as developing a map for the race tuner for the combinations they come up with?  Or would we need to have a custom map done by a local tuner?  I'm just trying to know what all I may be needing to have done that I might not be able to do myself.  I did find a local (50 miles) dealer that has trained techs on the race tuner.  Don't know how well they're trained, but hopefully, enough.

[DCFIREMANN]

Do you know if they will go as far as developing a map for the race tuner for the combinations they come up with?

[skippy49]

Dawg:
    I wasn't familiar with the Thundermax unit.  I've heard of it but didn't really know much about it.  That sounds good to me as I'm not a big fan of using the MOCO's parts if someone else makes aftermarket items. I'll read up more on it. Plus the fact that they will have maps available for it-I imagine I'll try it.
Thanks for the info.
Skippy

[DCFIREMANN]

Called Zippers today Bill was out for the day and I don't want to bother Danny in the middle of the day. I did talk to Pete and did not get toooo much info all he said was  ALL I KNOW IS THEY ARE RUNNING THE HELL OUT OF THE DYNO TODAY!!!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Unbalanced]

Skippy,

Call Tony at Zippers his number is below here.   He can tell you what you need to know about the ECM and he does most of the shows as well.   Great to deal with

Tony Van Schoor
410-579-2828  ext 118
Fax: 410-579-2835
tony.v@zippersperformance.com
www.zippersperformance.com

[skippy49]

DAWG:
   I'll give Tony a call as this whole system sounds good to me.  I was dreading the thought of trying to find someone to tune my bike after I did the cams & heads and this will simplify the whole process and hopefully save me a little money in the process.

[Unbalanced]

Hey Skippy just to let you know another buddy of mine just installed the Thundermax on his 03 SERK which has on it Bassani True Duals, Ness Big Sucker and Thundermax ECM.

His bike dyno'd out at 95 hp and 105 Torque.   He is heading to Colorado tomorrow, but said with a smile on his face wow !  He is quite ecstatic and is now looking forward to getting the heads and cam done when he gets back from his trip.

I don't have a copy of the dyno yet, but asked for it I am just as curious to see the curve prolly as some of you.

Also I told Tony today you would be calling him, he said he is lookingforward to it.

-harry

[skippy49]

Talked to Tony today.  He's going to let me know as soon as they have the cams which should be fairly soon.  After talking to him I really like the idea of the ThunderMax ECM since it's tuneable by myself, if I wanted to, but also they will have maps for it, so that I don't have to tune it.  I like the idea of a factory map---that's not from the HD factory.  Thanks for giving me his # & name.
Steve

[DCFIREMANN]

Skippy I am going to call down there this morning. I think they will be open(ice storm yesterday) and will have some updated info. I hope they got some testing in. I also got the specs on the cams they are testing and they look real good. They are going to test 3 cams in my bike in hopes of some good numbers for bolt in purposes. After that they are going to do things like heads and pistons and intakes. I know when they get done we will know what we have to work with.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[BLM777]

Skippy I am going to call down there this morning. I think they will be open(ice storm yesterday) and will have some updated info. I hope they got some testing in. I also got the specs on the cams they are testing and they look real good. They are going to test 3 cams in my bike in hopes of some good numbers for bolt in purposes. After that they are going to do things like heads and pistons and intakes. I know when they get done we will know what we have to work with.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

I forgot to ask you.  Are they converting to gear drive to test the cams, or are they just replacing the factory cam?  As mentioned before, the HP numbers are going to be about 5 higher with the gear drive conversion over the bolt in.  Thanks for all you work on this as it's greatly appreciated.