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Race tuner
« on: March 08, 2006, 10:08:51 PM »

Will a race tuner part#32107-01C work on 06 88 models. It is an older version but it should work other than the fact that it has no 06 maps. but
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2006, 11:07:18 PM »

sqrrl24

I believe your correct but if you need the 32107-01D EFI RACE TUNER KIT I have one New in the Box Never installed. I got it for Christmas and was waiting on the cams from Zippers. After talking with them I may go with the thundermax and D&D Fatcats with big bore baffles and Falsie.

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2006, 08:31:00 AM »

Bryan,

I do not think that C will work, nor do I think that D as it comes in the box will work.

I have version D at the house unfortunately the software that came with MY version D was 4.10 and it has no 2006 maps on it.   You could buy the C then pay the 20 bucks to get the latest version of software that will have the 2006 models in it.   The latest version is E of the tuner and I believe its version G of the software or version 4.5.2.

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2006, 06:00:22 PM »

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I do not think that C will work, nor do I think that D as it comes in the box will work.

I have version D at the house unfortunately the software that came with MY version D was 4.10 and it has no 2006 maps on it.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 08:47:04 PM »

Jr.

The newest version is only out in very limited quantities most dealers have it on back order.  I was told chicago harley got 17 and one other got 12 of them.   E is the latest that I am sure of.  

Even if you haven't opened your package unless someone will burn a copy for you or the dealer is willing to it will cost you 20 bucks to go from the version you have to the latest.   They should put up an FTP that allows you to keep up with it.  

I heard there were more maps in E and a few small fixes.   I believe the fixes are attributed to the 25 degree injectors vs. 8 degree injectors that are on the service bulletins for hard starts etc.   This was just what I was told I am yet to get my hands on the latest software to see for myself.  The reasoning for a new version is understandable, but you would have to compare your File Calibration vs. the newest one to really see what the differences are.

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2006, 09:09:31 PM »

If you have an existing race tuner older verion you can get a new CD for $20 from your dealer.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2006, 09:44:04 PM »

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If you have an existing race tuner older verion you can get a new CD for $20 from your dealer.

If you purchased in mid February, don't they give an automatic upgrade?
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2006, 09:56:31 PM »

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If you purchased in mid February, don't they give an automatic upgrade?
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2006, 10:34:06 PM »

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If you purchased in mid February, don't they give an automatic upgrade?
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Sure would be worth a phone call, but I'm guessing the answer is no.  After all, this is the MoCo we're talking about.  They've never seen a greenback they wouldn't love to liberate from your pocket, by hook or crook.  BTW - when you want updated "canned" maps for a PC, you just go to the website and download what you need free of charge (other updates like the rev limiter are not free).  Has anyone found the free H-D site for the SERT maps????  I'm sure it must be out there somewhere  [smiley=confused5.gif].

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2006, 01:01:53 AM »

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After all, this is the MoCo we're talking about.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2006, 11:50:07 PM »

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If you purchased in mid February, don't they give an automatic upgrade?

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 07:58:24 PM »

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The newest version is only out in very limited quantities most dealers have it on back order.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2006, 09:20:56 PM »

I would expect the G release of Software to have some more info in it and more maps.   I believe though that G is released in the E version of the RaceTuner Kit. 32107-01E I believe is the part number for getting the G release of the software.  However if you already have a D sounds like you may have to pony up the 20 bucks to get the G.   What I would do if I were you is check some dealers around and see if any have the G version yet and if they do try and get a peak at the calibration file to tell if any new maps showed up etc.  
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2006, 12:13:37 AM »

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2006, 11:04:56 AM »

I wouldnt count on on getting H or I.   Seems that the race tuner for the E version on the outside fo the box is on national back order.   Might be better to buy one then pony up the 20 bucks for the latest version.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2006, 06:59:26 PM »

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2006, 12:50:19 PM »

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Guess it is not on the H-D webnet yet.  My dealer checked today and latest release listed is 32117-01F.  Whoever finds the G first please let us know what new maps there may be.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2006, 02:43:36 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2006, 05:56:30 PM »

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2006, 07:38:45 PM »

I believe you will find that the F is on the box while the G is the designation for the software on the CD.    There are definately 2 different distinctions.   Please double check on the versioning.

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2006, 09:58:25 PM »

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2006, 12:11:36 PM »

Was at the dealership today picking up the bike after first service.  Stopped by the parts desk and the rep opened an F version box and it had the G version disc!  Asked if he could pull up the PDF file and print it out?  (PD What? [smiley=nixweiss.gif])  He said he didn't have access to a PC to do that...  Oh well, at least it's out there but they do not have the disc in stock.

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I did not get a copy of the file for mine but they ran 4th gear Roll-on and provided me with a print out.  (on the lean side between 2500 and 3500 in the mid 14-15 which corresponds with the printed copies of the Calibration at 14.4 in the same range.  They used the Calibration #36 to work off of to correct the Cold Start issue.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2006, 12:48:31 PM »

Here's a race tuner question that will really show my ignorance of the system, Is there enough variation built into the system to allow for different elevations ? I guess I was just wondering if when we all get up into the Rockies, we won't all be running too rich. Do the race tuners parameters allow for the change ? The way the bikes are set up from the factory doesn't cause any problems. At least my old bike didn't have any problems when I was out in the Rockies. How much flexibility do they have ?
 I once drove a 71 Challenger equipped with  a 750 Holley to my in-laws in Denver. It ran great back here but out there after a nights cruising, It needed the plugs changed. That was just at 5000 feet not 14,000 feet. I was afraid to take it to the mountains, so we used my in-laws car to go there. I realize that the fuel injection and electronics are  more forgiving but I was just curious.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2006, 01:59:38 PM »

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Here's a race tuner question that will really show my ignorance of the system, Is there enough variation built into the system to allow for different elevations ? I guess I was just wondering if when we all get up into the Rockies, we won't all be running too rich. Do the race tuners parameters allow for the change ? The way the bikes are set up from the factory doesn't cause any problems. At least my old bike didn't have any problems when I was out in the Rockies. How much flexibility do they have ?
 I once drove a 71 Challenger equipped with  a 750 Holley to my in-laws in Denver. It ran great back here but out there after a nights cruising, It needed the plugs changed. That was just at 5000 feet not 14,000 feet. I was afraid to take it to the mountains, so we used my in-laws car to go there. I realize that the fuel injection and electronics are  more forgiving but I was just curious.

Most people use the RaceTuner to set a base map and from there the ECM does all the remaining changes automatically for such as changes in air pressure / elevation.   So you should have no problems going from sea level to the rockies and should not see really any derivation in the way the bike runs.  

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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2006, 05:30:23 PM »

Harry is correct.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2006, 08:17:14 PM »

Has anybody acutualy got disc version F or G? I need a copy of G if I can get it. I herd today HD has droped the SERT has anybody else herd that?
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2006, 09:34:39 PM »

My SERT disc is the "G" version but I shared its contents to Unbalanced and he said that it was not much help. You might PM him and get his take on it. I just don't know that much about the subject.
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My SERT disc is the "G" version but I shared its contents to Unbalanced and he said that it was not much help. You might PM him and get his take on it. I just don't know that much about the subject.
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2006, 11:46:45 PM »

  I've been reading this thread and after sqrrl24 said HD was dropping the RT I was wondering what would take it's place? After dealer installed 95 kit, RT, rhinharts, cams and SE air cleaner they didn't have a download for an 06 "they said". Ran like S#$t and told me don't worry it's under warrenty. Next I went to independent shop, their I installed SE proformance heads, S&S 510 cams, PCIII and barnett clutch. This shop had a dyno and guy was certified so I was convinced this was way to go based on his experience, (his word). Bike still had a stutter or hasitation at about 2200 to 2800 rpm. Went back to stealership and paid 100.00 for a new download that matched my additional componets, ie; heads, cams and removed PCIII that other guy installed. Left "stealership" and bike still ran with same stutter at low rpm. I decided to get in touch with "JC", whom I'd ran into at easyriders this year. Which I should add, that I hadn't seen in about 30 years. A God thing I've come to  believe. Anyway he suggested I take bike to Sac HD for dyno tunning, which I did and to make a long story shorter, my bike now runs great. I posted the dyno a couple of weeks ago but it was somewhere around 97-8 & 101-2 which I'm fairly OK with. OCD is and will always be alive and busy.... Oh, JC don't let all these cuddo's go to your head, HA!. Just kiddin man, this site is the greatest, like having a mentor or older brother to run stuff by so you can eliminate a little trial and error, thank God. By the way that includes, Jim, Andy, Ernie, Don, Dave and everyone else I've enjoyed meeting in the last few months.
   Ok, back to original thread, what will take place of RT to make adjustments to computer if you change componets such as I did. I only ask this for my next bike , of course. Which will more than likely be a CVO, if I have any smarts. Right JC, yeah. See ya all later, Jon
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Re: Race tuner
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2006, 01:35:56 AM »

Disc G is of no help for 06 CVO.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2006, 01:39:35 AM by magicl1 »
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