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[hdrider53]

I was just getting ready to order me a Power Commander USB off Ebay for right at $250.00.  Then I started reading some posts on the Thudermax from Zippers on the Zippers link.
My question is why would a guy want to spend $450+ on the Thundermax verses the $250 I can get a Power Commander on Ebay for.  I have used the Power Commanders on several bikes including a Nitrous Hayabusa drag bike with good results as far as getting it tuned correctly.  I would take the bike to a Power Commander tuning station with a Dyno and do multiple runs with and without spray or race fuel and get several maps made for different applications.
What does the TM do that the PC doesn't?  Also the Power Commander has been around for a along time and I'm sure it will be supported for a long time to come. What about the Thunder Max is this a new product from a relatively small company or am I missing something? Make me a believer and maybe I will try the Thundermax.

[Fatboy]

People once thought horse's were the best mode of transportation..........

Spend a little time reading on each companies website so you get the fact's and not opinion's. Then you will be in the best position to make the choice that best suits your own personal needs. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Good luck.

[hdrider53]

I have done that, just looking for opinions.

[Fired00d]

What mods are you planning on doing? Are you considering the Zippers Cams? If I were starting off fresh (not already having SERT installed) and were upgrading to Zippers Cams (for 103 motors) then I would buy the Thundermax (which will come already mapped for these cams). This would eliminate you having to "dyno" tune your bike to have it dialed in correctly, and you can install all the components and ride. For me it's a little hard to justify spending money for a part that I may already be able to come close if not match what another part will do, but again I've already purchased this part and not starting off fresh. All I can say is if you starting fresh, and you planning on upgrading to Zippers Cams (and this will require and upgrade to ECM, whether it be buy SERT/Power Commander/Thundermax) why not get the "matched" set/parts? I'm not promoting one over the other, just trying to use the "K.I.S.S" (Keep It Simple Stupid) Method. I've always advocated going by what your "tuner" suggests or what you are comfortable working with if you are doing the install yourself.'

BTW

[grc]

My take on this:

PowerCommander:

[hdrider53]

It's a basic 2002 SE Road King. It has from the factory a 95 inch with 203 cams and flat tops.

[grc]

hdrider53,

Sorry, I forgot the '02 was a 95 incher, not a 103.

[hdnut]

How much longer untill we see the holy grail of systems??And who will come up with it??? [smiley=pumpkin.gif] [smiley=nixweiss.gif]I don't know what way to go[tm,rt,or,pc]?? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

[hdrider53]

Well there's the answer. Go with a cheaper PC for now then when someone comes out with the mother of all fuel injection system controllers with the O2 sensors I will jump on the band wagon then.
Thanks guys

[Fatboy]

Well there's the answer. Go with a cheaper PC for now then when someone comes out with the mother of all fuel injection system controllers with the O2 sensors I will jump on the band wagon then.
Thanks guys[/quote
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HD Rider 53,

 I think I read somewhere here on the site that Zipper's has or is very close to having a Thundermax with the o2 sensor module tied in. Kinda what I've waiting for in fact.

[hdnut]

That would be a question Dcfireman could answer? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=pumpkin.gif]There is a new version of the Thundermax coming out ,I think soon?I think they showed it in Daytona? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]Maybe that will be the mother of all ecm's??? [smiley=pumpkin.gif]

[BLM777]

Rumor has it that you may be very impressed within a couple of weeks with regard to the O2 sensor ECM from Thundermax (Zippers).  Would be very nice to have a system that "tunes" to bike to all conditions 24/7.

[Twolanerider]

Rumor has it that you may be very impressed within a couple of weeks with regard to the O2 sensor ECM from Thundermax (Zippers).

[BLM777]

Screw rumors, 02 sensors, new ECM and Mary Poppins.

[hdnut]

I will wait until I see the the new Thundermax ecm before I make a decision on what ecm to use. [smiley=pumpkin.gif] [smiley=nixweiss.gif]