Topic: road king cruise control question (Read 7322 times)

naitram · « **on:** April 20, 2006, 08:26:13 PM »

ok, need a CC expert. brought the SERK in for a 25k service and to have the cam tensiors checked was told they showed almost no wear. but i had working CC on the way to the dealer ( not sure why i thought to try it cause i never use it ) tried it half way home and no go, hit the master switch on the left side and it did light red like it should but nothing from the right side switch. my guess is they pinched something in the right side house while lubing the throttle cables. what can i easily check before i go postal on the service department

grc · « **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:34:46 PM »

There is a cruise control cut-off switch in the throttle cable that shuts down the cruise when you roll the throttle off completely (you can feel the extra resistance when you hit it). If they didn't adjust the throttle cables properly, this switch may be keeping the cruise from engaging. My other guess would be a wire pinched or pulled loose in the right switch housing.

Jerry

DCFIREMANN · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2006, 08:38:54 PM »

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ok, need a CC expert. brought the SERK in for a 25k service and to have the cam tensiors checked was told they showed almost no wear. but i had working CC on the way to the dealer ( not sure why i thought to try it cause i never use it ) tried it half way home and no go, hit the master switch on the left side and it did light red like it should but nothing from the right side switch. my guess is they pinched something in the right side house while lubing the throttle cables. what can i easily check before i go postal on the service department

If they lubed the cables, my first guess would be a pinched or broken wire.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

grc · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2006, 09:17:12 PM »

FYI - proper way to adjust throttle cables on a cruise equipped Harley:

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naitram · « **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2006, 09:21:22 PM »

i'll check under the left side cover in the AM and make sure connector is seated, if ti is i have to assume it's in the switch housing and get on the phone with the dealer

naitram · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:13:31 AM »

checked the obvious stuff, headed to the dealer back in a few hours with an update

naitram · « **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2006, 12:15:42 PM »

so i blasted up to the dealer, tried the CC on the way and it worked...... turned it off and back on wouldnt engage..... service guy went for a test ride and came back and said well it turned on but then cut out.... he opend the switch housing and double checked everything put it back together and went for another test ride. came back and said its working.

i left tried it on the side roads seemd ok. got on the highway and it wouldnt engage. turn it off and back on it engages. but about 30 seconds later cuts out.

it will have to stay this way for now as its rideable but i need to do some advanced troubleshooting

SEvet · « **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2006, 01:07:38 PM »

You might want to check your brake switches. Even a mico-second of brake light will disengage the c/c. I've had this problem with a brake pedal that had worn bushings... it would rattle just enough to engage the brake light for an instant.... and disengage.

Just a thought. 8-)

naitram · « **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2006, 01:34:52 PM »

thats something i wouldnt have thought of, i also need to check the TB side of things behind the air cleaner, when it does engage thers no resistance on the grip

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2006, 02:17:33 PM »

Not intending to be a jerk or anything, but you took it to a dealer, paid them to service it and now something that worked prior to them working on it doesn't work ? Take it back to the dealer, ream them a new- - - " relief valve" and get it fixed Dude. Also, if it were me, you can bet they'd be giving me my next service free or at least a free fluid change.

naitram · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2006, 02:25:51 PM »

B, right now i'm not positive it really worked before going in for service..... yes it did engage on the way there but as soon as it did i released it. the last time i really used it would have been last August. i already wasted 2+ hours going to the dealer today, i have the skills to troubleshoot it if i determine they are at fault then i will take it up with them, if it turns out my module is bad then them lubing the throttle cables probally wasnt the cause of it. but i cant keep taking 2+ hour breaks from work to deal with my dealer

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2006, 02:43:23 PM »

Neil,
Wish I had a buck for every time I've heard a story similar to yours. My sympathy for your frustration. Doesn't seem right to pay someone to stress you out though. There's enough of it going around for free these days. You and Beags have got to have a beer together some day. He gets jacked up every time he goes near San Diego H-D except for one guy in parts that looks after him. Just a piece of advice, I ride my bike about a mile from the dealership after having it serviced and check everything. If something isn't right, back I go. Last time I got Elvis worked on they re-installed my Reinharts with the seams out. I told the Service manager, " stupid chit like this makes me wonder how well the important stuff got handled " As long as I got a valid ESP, they're gonna deal with me and not the other way around.

naitram · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2006, 03:00:30 PM »

i hear ya, funny thing is i never check the CC before or after service not sure why i thought to check it yesterday. i wount let them off the hook for their mistakes, but i'f im not sure they screwed up or it was a module gone bad i wont go off on them until i find out

Twolanerider · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2006, 04:25:00 PM »

Here's another consideration. I had a 2000 Road King with cruise. Cruise stopped working once. Everything checked fine. Couldn't figure out why it didn't work. Screwed around four or five hours one Saturday trying to figure out what was the matter. Then noticed the brake light wasn't working either. Replaced the bulb and voila, suddenly had cruise control again too. Some weird safety interlock where if it senses no brake light it keeps the cruise from working to let you know (at least that's what a tech at the local shop told me the following week). That was on a 2000. No guarantee of being the same in 02. But it's certainly easy enough to look at.

naitram · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2006, 04:27:21 PM »

thanks for the tip Twolane, i'll check it would be funny if that was it well not really since dealer did a state saftey inspection while they had it........ ( brake light would have been on the check list )

Fired00d · « **Reply #15 on:** April 21, 2006, 04:46:45 PM »

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thanks for the tip Twolane, i'll check it would be funny if that was it well not really since dealer did a state saftey inspection while they had it........ ( brake light would have been on the check list )

If it is a blown bulb, and they did the safety inspection? Well I would think that would get you a lot of chrome or similar coupons from that dealership!!! Something you can always have in your pocket to barter a deal with...... Heh, you remember when I had my bike inspected and you guys said everything passed, and I rode it back home to find out that CC wasn't working and the reason it wasn't was because my taillight bulb was blown..... Now say again how much discount did you want to give me for that part/service? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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grc · « **Reply #16 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:03:35 PM »

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thats something i wouldnt have thought of, i also need to check the TB side of things behind the air cleaner, [highlight]when it does engage thers no resistance on the grip[/highlight]

? That's very strange. Leads me back to the cable adjustments (or maybe the return cable not connected at the TB?).

Jerry

naitram · « **Reply #17 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:22:12 PM »

ok latest update lack of CC may be related to my dragonfly installation. my new harness runs along the left side of the frame and was putting pressure on the CC cable running from the module to the TB. i adjusted this when i got home and went round the block once it engaged on the first try and didnt cut out. will give it a good shake down tomorrow. thats the good news, the bad news is the morons at the dealership pinched the wires in my ACC switch housing which is the passing lamp switch on my bike, this caused a short blowing the fuse for the head light and passing lamps, so i had to tear that apart and wrap the wires.

/me is not to happy with the dealer right now

SPIDERMAN · « **Reply #18 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:45:41 PM »

[highlight]* naitram is not to happy with the dealer right now [/highlight]

[size=24]Go kick yourself some ass Neil ![/size]

naitram · « **Reply #19 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:45:43 PM »

well, i tried the CC today on the highway and sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldnt. i'll have to run some tests with a meter and verify the wiring and also double check the path of the CC cable from the module to the TB

hdrider53 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:26:20 PM »

Mine quit working too, right after I installed a SE air cleaner.
Need to take it back off and see if it works again. My last one quit working and it turned out my rear brake was hitting the switch prematurely.

naitram · « **Reply #21 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:50:01 PM »

i did check the brake swithces last night and those seem fine

DCFIREMANN · « **Reply #22 on:** April 23, 2006, 06:54:28 AM »

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the bad news is the morons at the dealership pinched the wires in my ACC switch housing which is the passing lamp switch on my bike, this caused a short blowing the fuse for the head light and passing lamps, so i had to tear that apart and wrap the wires.

/me is not to happy with the dealer right now

That is why my bike never goes to the dealer, except for warranty!!!!! Everytime I have been back they F$%K something up.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

BK · « **Reply #23 on:** April 23, 2006, 07:15:46 AM »

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That is why my bike never goes to the dealer, except for warranty!!!!! Everytime I have been back they F$%K something up.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

I will 2nd that. It's amazing that we even pay for those headaches.

The Mysterious Q! · « **Reply #24 on:** April 23, 2006, 12:19:28 PM »

Have you ever noticed who is wrenching in the service depts at most dealers? Kids that do not have clue one on what to do. Theyre under paid and can give a rats ass if your bike is looked over properly. Most dealers have that one go to guy but his plate is always full. Just my .02 Later,Q

RJ749 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 23, 2006, 01:25:13 PM »

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Have you ever noticed who is wrenching in the service depts at most dealers? Kids that do not have clue one on what to do. Theyre under paid and can give a rats ass if your bike is looked over properly. Most dealers have that one go to guy but his plate is always full. Just my .02

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