Topic: Zipper's or Hypercharger (Read 5988 times)

TankerPig · « **on:** April 22, 2006, 12:25:07 PM »

Does anyone have any positive/negative comments regarding Kuryakyn's Hypercharger vs. Zipper's high flow a/c? I was pretty set on purchasing Zipper's for my SEFB, but just ran across the Hypercharger (specifically the Pro-R Hypercharger) while surfing the web, attempting to curb my CVO OCD. I haven't seen many posts on this site regarding Kuryakyn's performance parts, but have seen plenty on Zipper's (hence my inclination towards their products). I appreciate any and all help.

Mike

Twolanerider · « **Reply #1 on:** April 22, 2006, 12:27:48 PM »

http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1133232345/0

TankerPig · « **Reply #2 on:** April 22, 2006, 12:41:20 PM »

Ugh, I need to learn to search topics better

Thanks for the thread!! Looks like Zipper's it is.

Twolanerider · « **Reply #3 on:** April 22, 2006, 01:43:00 PM »

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Ugh, I need to learn to search topics better

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2006, 08:50:02 PM »

Just fitted my new wide air filter, I was not overly exited with the look (being able to see 1/2 inch of the filter element) but excepted it. But after going for a ride was even less impressed . I found my leg was constantly rubbing on my teardrop cover. When I get my cams in (still waiting for oil pump) I will Dyno with both filters to see if the gain is worth he pain. I am thinking though the standard width K & N replacement filter is looking like the best option!

Cheers
Aussie

Fired00d · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:02:36 PM »

Aussie,
How tall are you, even more what is your inseam (leg length). Hope you don't mind me asking. I was told that this filter would extend a little farther then what I have now, but since I'm tall (6'2/3 with a 34 inch inseam) that it shouldn't be a problem.

Also feel lucky that you got the Zippers Filter. After reading your post the other day saying they were in I made appointment to have my cams installed, and thought I should call Zippers to see if my stuff had shipped. When I spoke to them I was told that the filters were still on back order, [smiley=confused5.gif] and I opted to have my cams and other stuff shipped so I could have them for my appointment. I'm now either going to try Arleen Ness Big Sucker or either do like you are thinking and just go with the K&N filter just to get rid of the deteriorating SE element.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:05:32 PM »

I thought the twin velocity could be a better option than the hyper charger . Looks like it has a large filter surface area.

http://www.kuryakyn.com/achd.asp?bn=harley&cn=Air+Cleaners

Cheers
Aussie

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:19:31 PM »

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Aussie,
How tall are you, even more what is your inseam (leg length). Hope you don't mind me asking. I was told that this filter would extend a little farther then what I have now, but since I'm tall (6'2/3 with a 34 inch inseam) that it shouldn't be a problem.

Also feel lucky that you got the Zippers Filter. After reading your post the other day saying they were in I made appointment to have my cams installed, and thought I should call Zippers to see if my stuff had shipped. When I spoke to them I was told that the filters were still on back order, [smiley=confused5.gif] and I opted to have my cams and other stuff shipped so I could have them for my appointment. I'm now either going to try Arleen Ness Big Sucker or either do like you are thinking and just go with the K&N filter just to get rid of the deteriorating SE element.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Dood,

6 foot 3inch (190cm)

fatboyse2 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:33:35 PM »

Aussie, although the Zippers would be my top performance choice for standard fit airfilter, being 6 foot given what you've experienced with it getting int he way, I'd stick with the a K&N performance filter Vs the extra depth of the zippers. The hypercharger is a bug trap and not to my preference.

Fired00d · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2006, 09:42:37 PM »

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Dood,

6 foot 3inch (190cm)

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:19:24 PM »

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Hmm, that would defeat my theory then, unless it's the position of your legs (forward controls vs floorboards)? Wonder how it would feel if you still had the floorboards on your bike, but then that's a large price to pay just for a filter (comfort over function [smiley=nixweiss.gif]). One of the questions I had when I heard the filter would extend out farther was the effect of washing bike would have on element? Can you advise if this is a dry filter or do you apply oil like the K&N style?

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Fired00d
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Dood,
I attached a couple of pics I just took, maybe these will help.
I asumed it was pre oiled as other K & N filters I have bought in the past were & would not need to be re oiled until after cleaning it.(I thought all K& N filters required oiling & was not aware there is a dry version)

Cheers
Aussie

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #11 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:20:14 PM »

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #12 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:20:47 PM »

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #13 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:21:29 PM »

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #14 on:** April 22, 2006, 10:22:39 PM »

last one # 5 front view

Fired00d · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2006, 12:11:46 AM »

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Dood,
I attached a couple of pics I just took, maybe these will help.
I asumed it was pre oiled as other K & N filters I have bought in the past were & would not need to be re oiled until after cleaning it.(I thought all K& N filters required oiling & was not aware there is a dry version)

Cheers
Aussie

Thanks for the pics. I was referring to regular filters when I was speaking of dry (as are stock) versus K&N. My concern would be a regular paper filter (no oil) getting wet when washing bike. Still a little puzzled why I was told the filters were still back ordered. [smiley=confused5.gif]

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Fired00d
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DCFIREMANN · « **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2006, 06:48:03 AM »

The Zippers filter is slightly larger for a reason. I know I will have one when I get Punkin back. I wasn't aware they kicked out the stock filter cover that much.

DOOD if you want a big sucker call me at home today. I got a line on one for a fairly good price. (I think)

Be Safe

THE DAWG

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2006, 07:11:44 AM »

DAWG,
How does the depth of the big sucker compare with the Zippers wide filter?Does the big sucker come as a kit or just the element?

Cheers
Aussie

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2006, 07:26:41 AM »

I notice there are 2 types of big sucker stage 1 & stage 2 which has a 20% bigger filter (I assume wider)
Anyone know the actual difference?

Cheers
Aussie

grc · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2006, 07:57:43 AM »

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I notice there are 2 types of big sucker stage 1 & stage 2 which has a 20% bigger filter (I assume wider)
Anyone know the actual difference?

Cheers
Aussie

Aussie,

The Ness gets its' increased surface area by eliminating the taper from the TB side to the cover side (see photo comparison below). This requires an 8 inch cover - not sure if your cover will work or not.

Jerry

Fired00d · « **Reply #20 on:** April 23, 2006, 08:33:54 AM »

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Aussie,

The Ness gets its' increased surface area by eliminating the taper from the TB side to the cover side (see photo comparison below).

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #21 on:** April 23, 2006, 08:50:13 AM »

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Jerry,
Do you know if the Stage 2 Big Sucker will fit with Forged Billet Aluminum Air Cleaner Cover? If it doesn't would it be any better to get the Big Sucker Stage 1 over K&N filter? Thanks

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Fired00d
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I'm starting to get a bit confused now! would the big sucker stage 1 & the K & N be the same? Then also the same as the stage 1 Screamin Eagle 29442-99D (washable filter)?

Cheers
Aussie

Fired00d · « **Reply #22 on:** April 23, 2006, 08:55:37 AM »

The K&N and Big Sucker Stage 1 might be (at least similar). [smiley=nixweiss.gif] My concern with the SE filter is the deterioration around the rubber that sits against backplate. There was a thread about that somewhere (sorry don't have time to search for it right now). And isn't the SE a dry filter (not oil soaked)?

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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grc · « **Reply #23 on:** April 23, 2006, 09:12:01 AM »

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Jerry,
Do you know if the Stage 2 Big Sucker will fit with Forged Billet Aluminum Air Cleaner Cover? If it doesn't would it be any better to get the Big Sucker Stage 1 over K&N filter? Thanks

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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I'm starting to get a bit confused now! would the big sucker stage 1 & the K & N be the same? Then also the same as the stage 1 Screamin Eagle

grc · « **Reply #24 on:** April 23, 2006, 09:33:04 AM »

BTW - it appears that Ness now has part numbers for '06 EFI units available (suggest calling to verify if interested, since they indicated initially last year that the 18-500 would fit, and of course it didn't) - see info copied from Ness web site below:

Jerry

hogasm · « **Reply #25 on:** April 23, 2006, 09:38:55 AM »

While down in Charlestown for the Herritage Rally the Dyno guy ran a stage 1 Arlen Ness big sucker and a stage 2 big sucker. The stage 2 on a stock street glide with Rhinehart true duals had 3 more horsepower and 2 more ft pounds of torque.
I rode the bike with both breathers on it and being 5'9" the stage 2 rubbed my leg to the point it was too uncomfortable to ride.
I will be sticking with the stage 1 on Old Bessie.

Street Stalker · « **Reply #26 on:** April 23, 2006, 03:46:42 PM »

I must say I was intrigued when I initailly heard about the 20% larger filter, but after seeing Aussie Mikes' photo's I will have to pass. I'm sorry but that just looks like crap. Maybe an aftermarket cover will enclose the entire filter, but the stock CVO cover does not and I definately don't care for the filter sticking out. Thanks for the pics Mike...

1bagger · « **Reply #27 on:** April 23, 2006, 04:27:27 PM »

I'm 5'10 34' inseam and have no clearance problems with the larger Zippers Air Cleaner.
Something you guys might want to consider is installing 3/4" spacer kits to move the floorboards out. Keeps your leg from rubbing on the tank.The pics posted are on the FatBoy with forward controls not Floorboards .
While your at it think about the 50mm throttle body from Zippers .

Fired00d · « **Reply #28 on:** April 23, 2006, 06:39:47 PM »

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....DOOD if you want a big sucker call me at home today. I got a line on one for a fairly good price. (I think)

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Dawg,
Thanks for the offer the dealer gave me a deal on one that has been sitting there for a while (one of those items that somehow or another is missing box so it was marked down). Thanks for the offer, and if for some reason the one they have doesn't fit I may give you a call.

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Fired00d
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Twolanerider · « **Reply #29 on:** April 23, 2006, 10:31:43 PM »

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Just fitted my new wide air filter, I was not overly exited with the look (being able to see 1/2 inch of the filter element) but excepted it. But after going for a ride was even less impressed . I found my leg was constantly rubbing on my teardrop cover.

Weird how we all must sit a little different.

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #30 on:** April 24, 2006, 12:51:18 AM »

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Weird how we all must sit a little different.

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #31 on:** April 24, 2006, 06:30:26 AM »

Knocked up some 3/4 inch spacers tonight & fitted them. looks great or basicly you can't tell what I've done. Didn't get a chance to test ride tonight but just sitting on the bike felt a lot better.(will test ride in the morning) If all goes well that means I've got the difficult job of welding a 3/4 inch wide strip x 1/16 thick mild steel to the edge of my Teardrop cover & get a perfect finish that can be re-chromed & hopefully look like the factory finish. What can I say, I just love the Tear Drop Cover!

Cheers
Aussie

JR · « **Reply #32 on:** April 24, 2006, 07:38:56 PM »

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The K&N and Big Sucker Stage 1 might be (at least similar). [smiley=nixweiss.gif] My concern with the SE filter is the deterioration around the rubber that sits against backplate. There was a thread about that somewhere (sorry don't have time to search for it right now). And isn't the SE a dry filter (not oil soaked)?

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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d00d,

When I got my SE air kit they already changed to the paper element and my parts man got me a K&N filter. If for some reason It hits my leg and is too uncomfortable I will put K&N back on. I'm like Twolane, I believe I will be alright since floorboards are spaced out. I'm 6 ft, 34" inseam and bow legged!

JR [smiley=banana.gif]

AUSSIE_FLSTFSE · « **Reply #33 on:** April 25, 2006, 07:53:42 AM »

I could not believe my test ride with the 3/4 inch spacers today, my knee sat about 3/4 inch away from the air filter cover & the new right leg position is probably more comfy than it has ever been. The wide filter is no longer an issue. Its amazing how such a small change has made so much difference. Just need to make the cover wider now!

Cheers
Aussie

Twolanerider · « **Reply #34 on:** April 25, 2006, 12:49:04 PM »

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I could not believe my test ride with the 3/4 inch spacers today, my knee sat about 3/4 inch away from the air filter cover & the new right leg position is probably more comfy than it has ever been. The wide filter is no longer an issue. Its amazing how such a small change has made so much difference. Just need to make the cover wider now!

Cheers
Aussie

Glad the idea was helpful [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

1bagger · « **Reply #35 on:** April 25, 2006, 06:53:36 PM »

Here is a pic of the spacers on my Bagger

JR · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2006, 08:07:32 PM »

What da heck is hanging down behind the air filter.....looks like a huge dirt dobber nest! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

JR [smiley=banana.gif]

1bagger · « **Reply #37 on:** April 25, 2006, 08:36:57 PM »

I don't like the idea of venting the engine directly into the throttle body.
So I installed a cross over pipe conected to a hose then a filter.
Does it make any differance ? Don't know for sure .

JR · « **Reply #38 on:** April 25, 2006, 09:05:41 PM »

Thanks! I never have seen that before and was curious.

JR [smiley=banana.gif]

Author Topic: Zipper's or Hypercharger (Read 5988 times)

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