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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2006, 02:46:30 PM »

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as far as i know HDI-bikes have all (also no CVO) catalyst mufflers and a active intake/exhaust system controled by the ecm. [highlight]If you upload a SE race tuner map to the ecm of a HDI-bike the active intake/exhaust stops working. [/highlight]I will try the DTT TCFI2D. Not even cheap but a good system using wide band O2-sensors which keep the AFR exact where the bike needs it (maybe a little bit richer ;) ) I try to use the units programmable user output to control the active exhaust system.

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luka

Hello Luka, ;)

Are you sure about this information ?
It seems too easy.  :-?
I change my stock exhausts for a set of true duals (without the active valve but with the O2 sensors) and Ovals, I change my stock A/C for a Big sucker (I disconnect the wiring of the active intake) and I download the SE Map (probably the #84) and it run right !!!!!

Same Nige, I'm surprise but perhaps ...... [smiley=confused5.gif]
I'm not a specialist and I read all concerning this subject because I interrested by the solution.

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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2006, 03:07:48 PM »

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Hello Luka, ;)

Are you sure about this information ?
It seems too easy.
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2006, 07:24:21 AM »

Hello Jacques, hello Nige,

of course the SE map is working on a HDI-bike, ONLY the function of the active intake/exhaust will not be available. I have this information from a other forum. A guy from Austria, "Viennahog" gave me this information. He put a SE-map from the newest racetuner on his bike and the active system stops working. It seems the stock-HDI maps are special maps including the active function. So if you don
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2006, 08:48:20 AM »

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Hello Jacques, hello Nige,

of course the SE map is working on a HDI-bike, ONLY the function of the active intake/exhaust will not be available. I have this information from a other forum. A guy from Austria, "Viennahog" gave me this information. He put a SE-map from the newest racetuner on his bike and the active system stops working. It seems the stock-HDI maps are special maps including the active function. So if you don
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2006, 09:58:52 AM »

Hi Luke !

It seems an interesting way ! Thanks !  :)
It's necessary to download the SE Map in the ECM throught the SERT.  :D
Very interesting way for those they wish to drop only the exhaust and stay in the the law if it's necessary. In this case, you need Daytona TwinTec unit to drop with or without flaps. ::)
Also interesting for me, with my changement :
- set of true duals with O2 and Ovals (without flap)
- Arlen Ness Big sucker Stage I (without flap)
I need only a SERT and the right MAP.  8-)
In France, we have still a tolerance of the police for HD and I think with Ovals it'll be not too noisy.

Remark in support of the action of the SE Map :
I have downloaded the SERT Software http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1165256516;start=all and in the documentation it's mentionned the DTC errors without code for the active Intake and exhausts. Probably, it confirms that our flaps are not managed in all MAP but only in the stock HDI Map. The SE map is not specific for Europe and it's probably the reason of the desactivation of "Little European Flappers".

This new situation is very pleasant ! Is'nt it ?  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Who have a new Donkey for our friend Nige ? He dreams with his diabolik SERK since one hour !!!  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]

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Jacques
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2006, 11:10:14 AM »

hi Jacques - it certainly sounds like those of us who are going to change the full exhaust system are going to be OK with the SERT's lack of ability to play withour little Flappers, but as Hoist says will the ECM still be looking for them even though the SERT remap does not allow them to work ??

I'm not too sure what you mean about the Donkey and the diabolik SERK since one hour - I think something has been lost in the translation !  [smiley=nixweiss.gif] Still funny though.

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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2007, 09:21:45 AM »

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Eqcons,

It seems to be one right way but how you manage the active intake and exhaust ? [smiley=confused5.gif]
If we disconnect the soleno
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2007, 10:36:27 AM »

Eqcons,
Happy to read you again for this new year !

You confirm a good news for us.

I knew not that the Thundermax is an ECU replacement.
I resume my way :
I put dressers duals and oval slips-on V&H, an A/C big sucker or SE and Thundermax (PCIII USB #812-511) + O2 kit (Oxygen sensor eleminator kit) and the right Map and it's run fine !
Do you agree with that ?

What is the choice for your bike? Is it installed?
if yes, what is your #Map ?
Is it yourself mounted the Thundemax or your Dealer?
Do you made a specific tuning on the Map?

About the A/C, 2 questions :

1) Yesterday, I talked with my dealer and I ask him what is the reference for the SE A/C.
Answer : I know not because the european model had a specific sensor for Air!!! And we need a specific backplate for to mount this sensor !!!!
Eqcons, if you have changed your A/C, do you need a specific backplate or no ?

2) Concerning the A/C, what is the reference for Big sucker or SE ?

Thanks for all,
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2007, 11:40:23 AM »

Hi Jacques!

I knew not that the Thundermax is an ECU replacement.
I resume my way :
I put dressers duals and oval slips-on V&H, an A/C big sucker or SE and Thundermax (PCIII USB #812-511) + O2 kit (Oxygen sensor eleminator kit) and the right Map and it's run fine !
Do you agree with that ?


Nearly, but the PC-III is not required!  The Thundermax does it all....  ;)  However, for the 110" engine which has the compression lifters, Zippers have not yet (as far as I know) got the add-on module to deal with them completed. (Check out the Zippers section on here!).


What is the choice for your bike? Is it installed?
if yes, what is your #Map ?
Is it yourself mounted the Thundemax or your Dealer?
Do you made a specific tuning on the Map?


I'll be going with V&H True Dual headers, SE Mufflers, and the roll-your-own SE air cleaner.  This with the Thundermax ECU and O
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2007, 12:10:47 PM »

Thanks Jim.

It's a little bit more clear for me. :)

When you speak about the O
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2007, 11:39:43 AM »

Hi Jacques

It's a little bit more clear for me. :)

Good!

When you speak about the O
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Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2007, 03:37:51 PM »

Hello European CVO Bikers,

As I will get my Jester mid of march (date of production 9. february), I am ordering some parts that I will immediately mount on.

In Switzerland, the policemen are used to control the numbers engraved on the exhaust. As soon as they can't read the original numbers, you have to pay a fee and if, added to that, you make more noise than what is written in the certificate, you pay for each added dB. It can make several thousand dollars (swiss francs! of course).

This is because I will not change the exhaust (I also was used to listen a lot of music on my previous bike and will continue, even if that mean I will lose some ponies). I just will block the "flap" in the open position (a small screw in the macanism will do the trick); eventually, I will replace the left exhaust with a right one, since it has a bigger output.

I also will install an air filter Kuryakyn Twin Velocity Plus.

For those mods, the SERT map #84 should go. It should not generate any trouble code due to lack of "flaps" as it normaly should not know their existance.

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