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CVO Social => Other Topics => Topic started by: Aussie on July 09, 2019, 08:51:29 PM
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On installation of spark plugs service manual states to use Silver Grade anti-seize which I have been using for several years but not the HD branded one.
6. Apply a light coat of SILVER GRADE ANTI-SEIZE (Part
No. 98960-97) to the spark plug threads. Install and tighten
to 12-18 ft-lbs (16.3-24.4 Nm).
What I am using is the Anti-Seize 37617 also in a Silver Grade.
Typical Applications: For easy removal of spark
plugs, cylinder head and exhaust head bolts.
There is also another Anti-Seize 37616 in a Copper Grade.
Typical Applications: Spark plug threads installed
in aluminum, exhaust manifold bolts, engine bolts,
thermostat housing bolts, oxygen sensors, battery
cable connections.
Do you see an advantage in using the Copper grade over the Silver Grade, I am thinking of conductivity between spark plugs and cylinder head threads.
Both are suitable for spark plugs except the copper is for spark plugs screwed into aluminum.
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I always use a small dab of the silver (not HD re-branded) anti-seize on all plugs and never once had an issue. And I've changed a heck of a lot of spark plugs over the past few decades.
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Either type will work well on spark plug threads, copper has a higher max temp range but I've never had a problem when using the silver variety. As for conductivity, not a problem either way. Don't forget, it's kind of like the old Brylcreem commercials from the dark ages of my youth, a little dab will do ya. I've seen some folks create problems when they assume if a little bit is good, a lot must be better. ;)
Jerry
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I typically use the copper stuff where (environmental) corrosion is a concern, like suspension bolts.
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I have heard not to use copper......if any gets 'inside' and combusts, the O2 sensors will be fouled. But...if you use very little it should not be a problem either way.
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Either type will work well on spark plug threads, copper has a higher max temp range but I've never had a problem when using the silver variety. As for conductivity, not a problem either way. Don't forget, it's kind of like the old Brylcreem commercials from the dark ages of my youth, a little dab will do ya. I've seen some folks create problems when they assume if a little bit is good, a lot must be better. ;)
Jerry
Well said as usual Jerry, and I remember those commercials.
I've always used the copper and almost all the tech's at the dealership I work at do as well.
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I've used copper for years on all fasteners as well as plugs also on the brake disc pads and the threads of the pad keep pins. It works good on the exhaust joints as said it handles the heat. It's a compound that only requires a small/ thin amount not to be confused as a grease.
Never have had any issues using copper and plugs are number one on the list of it use.
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Copper is copper ... But, there are TWO silvers.
One uses aluminum powder ... The cheap stuff.
The more expensive kind uses nickel powder.
Because so little of it is used, there is no reason not to buy the 'good stuff'.
Think about it ... If the heads are aluminum, why would you use an aluminum-based anti-seize?
Back when Google was new, I searched 'anti-seize' and have since been using copper or nickel exclusively. (I've been using up the 'cheap stuff' on auto lug-nuts and the like.)
Side note - The more expensive compounds typically use a finer mesh powder and more of it ... Check the manufacturers' specs.
Cheers,
Smoketown
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All I know about anti-seize compound is that chit gets on everything, and you can't clean it off.
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All I know about anti-seize compound is that chit gets on everything, and you can't clean it off.
And the absolute BEST and WORST of the bunch is military grade with 'moly' ... Used to put it on the ear-piece of the foreman's phone.
I used to live by the LAX ... Ever eat at Tito's or MaGoos?
Cheers,
Smoketown
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And the absolute BEST and WORST of the bunch is military grade with 'moly' ... Used to put it on the ear-piece of the foreman's phone.
I used to live by the LAX ... Ever eat at Tito's or MaGoos?
Cheers,
Smoketown
I love Tito's Tacos!!! Where did you live near LAX? My house is in Westchester, just two blocks from LMU.
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I love Tito's Tacos!!! Where did you live near LAX? My house is in Westchester, just two blocks from LMU.
Two all meat burritos with cheese please! The Avocado Cha-Shu burgers at MaGoos were the best!
Used to live over by Emerson Manor Elementary.
Cheers,
Smoketown
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Cheap silver for 20 years. No problems. Mine is a stick, little dab on one spot. Threads will spread it when screwed in.
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All I know about anti-seize compound is that chit gets on everything, and you can't clean it off.
How true this is!
Much truth to the difference in anti seizes.as well. Copper will potentially foul 02 sensors and clog catalytic converter (s) just use enough to lightly coat the threads. All you want to do is prevent the dissimilar metals from getting stuck together.
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Over thinking it. Use either one. Just don't use too much and you'll be fine.
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All I know about anti-seize compound is that chit gets on everything, and you can't clean it off.
Back in my mechanic days when a new kid would get hired we'd put it under the pull handles on his tool box. He'd have it everywhere before he figured out where it was coming from. I guess you'd call it hazing today.
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Yow that's just cruel LOL.
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Back in my mechanic days when a new kid would get hired we'd put it under the pull handles on his tool box. He'd have it everywhere before he figured out where it was coming from. I guess you'd call it hazing today.
Or under the sweat-band on the asshole foreman's hard hat!
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Back in my mechanic days when a new kid would get hired we'd put it under the pull handles on his tool box. He'd have it everywhere before he figured out where it was coming from. I guess you'd call it hazing today.
The silver color blends in very well with the chrome handle of a ratchet
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I have had mine in a zip lock bag for quite some time because of the mess. I use a little on the threads of the spark plugs mostly.
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Back in my mechanic days when a new kid would get hired we'd put it under the pull handles on his tool box. He'd have it everywhere before he figured out where it was coming from. I guess you'd call it hazing today.
In my Honda MC mechanic days, we would grease the grips of the new guys bike and then watch him get on it to go to lunch
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