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CVO Technical => Twin Cam => Topic started by: Fireguy on November 28, 2010, 12:40:26 PM

Title: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Fireguy on November 28, 2010, 12:40:26 PM
I am going to be buying a set of cams from steve (fullsac) and was wondering if anyone has instruction for a step by step install. I am sure it comes with the cams but thought I would get a head start and see what all is involved. 
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Rio on November 28, 2010, 12:43:50 PM
 ;D yeah, dial 1 then the number of your local HD dealer or technician, schedule an appointment, bring bike to local shop, and have cams installed as directed.  these are my personal instructions for anything mechanical
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: HD Street Performance on November 28, 2010, 12:49:43 PM
Andrewsproducts.com, print their instruction sheet and get a factory SM
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: walstibsf on November 28, 2010, 01:25:55 PM
Which cams ya gettin', Fireguy?  (just out of curiosity and future info/feedback bout 'em)  S&S(www.sscycle.com) has installation tech sheets also.
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: BillH on November 28, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
Andrewsproducts.com, print their instruction sheet and get a factory SM

+1
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Fireguy on November 28, 2010, 02:34:33 PM
Steve at fullsac has already done the homework and alot of us have gone with what he set up. Andrews 54 cams and headcaskets are what I am looking at. I like the fact that I can still use the same pushrods and it seems to be a simple install. I am waiting to hear from him and get this started.
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: WVULTRA on November 28, 2010, 06:30:00 PM
I am going to be buying a set of cams from steve (fullsac) and was wondering if anyone has instruction for a step by step install. I am sure it comes with the cams but thought I would get a head start and see what all is involved. 

This is a pretty good read:

http://www.box.net/shared/df4byi59zi

 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: skippy49 on December 06, 2010, 01:00:11 PM
I am going to be buying a set of cams from steve (fullsac) and was wondering if anyone has instruction for a step by step install. I am sure it comes with the cams but thought I would get a head start and see what all is involved. 

  If you're just doing the cams and nothing else, I'd get some adjustable pushrods and eliminate removing the heads.  Saves you a lot of work for the price of the pushrods.
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: mjb765 on December 06, 2010, 01:04:32 PM
  If you're just doing the cams and nothing else, I'd get some adjustable pushrods and eliminate removing the heads.  Saves you a lot of work for the price of the pushrods.

 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
X2--wouldn't pull the rocker boxes unless you have to.....
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: GregKhougaz on December 06, 2010, 01:58:40 PM
....    Andrews 54 cams and headcaskets are what I am looking at.


This is for "Dead Heads." 
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Ghost__Rider on December 06, 2010, 03:42:48 PM
I just finished doing three bikes this month and I'd never seen the inside of one before. Though I am a ASE certified truck technician. Buy a shop manual first. If you plan on putting cam bearings in get the tools from Georges Garage.com. Start at the top of the engine and work your way down to the cams. Get a set of magnets to hold the lifters up. Other than those tools it's a piece of cake. The first one I did was mine. Took me about 6 to 7 hours. The next one took me about 5 hours, and the last one with two helpers cleaning parts I did in 3.5 hours. That's changing the head gaskets.

this might help you:

http://tuneyourharley.com/biketech/content/how-change-cams-96-twin-cam-engine
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Ghost__Rider on December 06, 2010, 04:41:05 PM
:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
X2--wouldn't pull the rocker boxes unless you have to.....
This is from what I gathered from Steve at Fullsac's. I asked about adjustable pushrods too. He told me that with the 54 andrews cams you can uses the stock push rods. And if you are changing the head gaskets anyway with .030 gaskets you're already there. Why put a adjustable heavier push rod in and take a chance of something coming loose and trashing your engine. Why put a heavier part in a engine you are looking for performance anyway. Made sense to me.
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Talon on December 07, 2010, 12:12:25 PM
This is on a pre 07 bike, but pretty much the same.

http://www.harleyhog.co.uk/camguidepage1.htm

Craig
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: TimBone on December 08, 2010, 09:06:44 AM
Here is a link to my install of the Wood CAMS.
Hope it helps a little.
Fairly Straight forward job!!
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: cvobiker on December 08, 2010, 11:54:06 PM
Here is a link to my install of the Wood CAMS.
Hope it helps a little.
Fairly Straight forward job!!

No Link   
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Fullsac Performance on December 09, 2010, 11:32:37 AM
 If you're just doing the cams and nothing else, I'd get some adjustable pushrods and eliminate removing the heads.  Saves you a lot of work for the price of the pushrods.
Installing cams does not require head removal to reuse the stock solid pushrods. On the 07 and older baggers, pulling the stock tank is a pain in the ass.
The fuel crossover was about impossible to remove with out spilling some fuel even after you drained the tank. This is not the case on the 08 and newer Baggers.
I just recieved a 2011 CVO Ultra in for a Stage II Woods 555 kit. I pulled the seat and tank in less than 10 minutes while I talked to the customer. The tank was full and I didn't spill a drop. 10 minutes later I had the the rocker covers off, rockers flipped, and the stock pushrods in my hands with out the use of bolt cutters. If the debate is about performance, a heavier, non solid pushrod is not something you would ever chose over a solid, lighter, more reliable part. A part that came with your engine that you already own.There's a reason even Harley sells solid pushrods in different lenghts. Some people demand the the best most reliable pushrods. Performance and reliability is the angle I'm coming from. The typically old school Harley mechanic has been using quick install adjustable pushrods for years to ease the pain of the old style tank removal. And as always, there's money involved in providing these mechanical cures of inconvenience. Its an old industry and I realize old habits don't die easy even though some of them need to. The argument that the adjustables save a substantial amount of labor by not pulling the tank on these 08 and later Baggers is total BS.

Steve George
Fullsac Performance
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: HD Street Performance on December 09, 2010, 12:06:27 PM
Can't agree more, right on.
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Fireguy on December 09, 2010, 05:26:32 PM
I like this guy.  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: TimBone on December 09, 2010, 07:08:54 PM
No Link   

Sorry dude,
link would help:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=40572.0
Title: Re: Step by step cam install?
Post by: Texas 103 on December 09, 2010, 07:44:06 PM
  If you're just doing the cams and nothing else, I'd get some adjustable pushrods and eliminate removing the heads.  Saves you a lot of work for the price of the pushrods.


Plus it may not rattle when it gets hot...