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[Midnight Rider]

They must have switched back to DOT 4 in '06...mine's got 4 on the reservoir cap...

[Twolanerider]

They must have switched back to DOT 4 in '06...mine's got 4 on the reservoir cap...

One year's difference on a fluid variation across a variance of several different models.  Anyone want to bet how many kids in service department don't know anything beyond "brake fluid" and how many holes have been topped off with the wrong stuff?

[Midnight Rider]

Terry,
 No new trinkets this time. I did find a good price on the SE slip-ons but held off with vacation next week figured I better wait. I think that's going to be my early Christmas present to myself though.
Ed

You'll like the sound they give you, not to mention an increase in performance. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]  Santa needs to come before it gets too cold to ride up there...

[Twolanerider]

I here you Dawg, that's one of the reasons I made sure to swing the conversation with him to the type of fluid. Just as a friendly reminder. They don't work on V's every day so I wanted to make sure we were on the same page.

Ed

The really good synthetic DOT4s are pretty good in that regard too.  Silicone is a little better; that's true.  And quite frankly I wish my bike had it in it.  But having worked with the stuff and how difficult it can be to get bled out sometimes I can understand a manufacturer's desire not to have to deal with it over and over and over again day after day.  Of course anything with ABS can't use it anyway.  But Harley doesn't believe we're valued enough as consumers to worry with needling little safety additions like ABS anyway.

[Special_Ed]

They must have switched back to DOT 4 in '06...mine's got 4 on the reservoir cap...

Terry,
I feel even better now that I mentioned the DOT 5 to the mechanic! I didn't realize the change back to DOT 4 on the 06's.

Ed

[Special_Ed]

One year's difference on a fluid variation across a variance of several different models.

[Twolanerider]

Don,
That does make me a little nervous. Makes me uncomfortable when they change back and forth like that. I'd prefer they'd "Keep it Simple". Is there that big performance difference between 4 & 5?

Ed

Ed, the important differences are the higher boiling point of silicone based fluids, that they won't hurt paint and that they entrain air in the liquid.  Short of boiling the fluid you and me as drivers won't "feel" any difference in the pedal.  We're just not that finely calibrated.  I know of a couple of old car buddies who have made the jump from DOT3 or 4, flushed systems, etc etc etc and went to DOT5.  Some swore they could "feel" a difference.  Mental gymastics to justify the efforts.  It (DOT5) really is good stuff.  It can just be a real pain to work with.

[Special_Ed]

You'll like the sound they give you, not to mention an increase in performance. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[Special_Ed]

Ed, the important differences are the higher boiling point of silicone based fluids, that they won't hurt paint and that they entrain air in the liquid.

[Midnight Rider]

You're right about that but have to keep the little woman happy too.

[DCFIREMANN]

Ed, the important differences are the higher boiling point of silicone based fluids, that they won't hurt paint and that they entrain air in the liquid.

[DCFIREMANN]

They must have switched back to DOT 4 in '06...mine's got 4 on the reservoir cap...

Terry thats what we have been saying all along. I don't like it but the MOCO does. I think it has something to do with $$$$$$$$. I think a lot of jap bikes also use dot 4 as of now.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

[highlight]One year's difference on a fluid variation across a variance of several different models.  Anyone want to bet [/highlight]how many kids in service department don't know anything beyond "brake fluid" and how many holes have been topped off with the wrong stuff?

Not me!!!!!! I will bet you are right. I think the change should have been made all across the board.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Special_Ed]

Yep...part of the Fine Arts is how to maintain a balance between our "fixes" for Chrome, toys, etc, and keeping the woman happy at the same time[highlight]...it's a delicate balance and in a constant state of flux...some women run DOT 3 and some DOT 5, so their boiling points are different too.... [/highlight]

Holy Chit !!! How true is that!!!!  

[Twolanerider]

AHHHH GRASSHOPPER you need to know chineese secret for bleeding with DOT 5. It is very easy to work with in my opinion. But that is just my opinion. I prefer dot 5.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Mike, I've had good luck with the stuff and use it in the old Vette, Tbird and El Camino.