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CVO Social => Other Topics => Topic started by: rganz on January 24, 2009, 12:21:22 AM
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Canadian Biker-March Issue has a article on these bikes. Does anyone have anyexperience with them.
I don't mind the look of the classic.
http://www.royalenfield.com/bullet-classic/bulletclassic.html (http://www.royalenfield.com/bullet-classic/bulletclassic.html)
Article says they are 100 years old. 2009 has a new motor a 500cc pushrod motor that lives with the gearbox in one casing and has a 27hp 30 fp torque screamer. Kind of a cool retro look .
They even have it in black
Rob
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I like the original Indian better myself.
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Maybe a nice looking bike for someone else. Not exactly what I would want to ride.
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In the new model, the Bullets raw torque has been technically harnessed by equipping the UCE with elctronic fuel injection (EFI) technology to result in enhanced combustion efficiency, so as to comply with Euro111 norms.
The EFI power train with extra power and torque provide for the dual ease n comfort of cruising at 70MPH on highways.
technically harnessed thats a new spin on the theme restricted
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You know it's a bike with its legacy held in Brit bikes. It's got an onboard tool box...
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I like the original Indian better myself.
HeHe!!! These are Indian! They're made in India! ;D
Kinda pieces of junk too! At least the new one I rode a few years ago was! ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Aren't these the motorcycles Sears and Roebuck used to sell out of their catalogs in the sixties? I remember a neighbored friend that bugged his dad for a motorcycle so he could ride with a group of us on Hodaka's. His dad finally got him motorbike out of the Sears catalog. The first time he went riding with us and on the first jump, he came down and both foot pegs broke right of the frame and his new shiny Sears bike was bent to hell. Needles to say,, he never rode with us again. :P :P
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Aren't these the motorcycles Sears and Roebuck used to sell out of their catalogs in the sixties? I remember a neighbored friend that bugged his dad for a motorcycle so he could ride with a group of us on Hodaka's. His dad finally got him motorbike out of the Sears catalog. The first time he went riding with us and on the first jump, he came down and both foot pegs broke right of the frame and his new shiny Sears bike was bent to hell. Needles to say,, he never rode with us again. :P :P
RE's were originally English bikes. Here's some info on past Sears offerings.
Sears Allstate Made in Italy and Austria
from the early 1950s to late 1970s
Puch
Gilera
Sachs
Vespa
Sears Allstate Forum
Sears Allstate Directory
Motorcycles, Scooters and Mopeds
Brief History of the Marque: Sears Allstate
Puch two-strokes from Austria were sold by Sears-Roebuck of Chicago from the 1950s to at least 1979 under the Sears Allstate label. Sears sold scooters built by Vespa 1952 to at least 1967, as there is one advertised in their Spring '67 catalog. They also sold Italian machines manufactured by Gilera.
Sears Allstate by Troyce Walls
VESPA ALLSTATE 125cc
788.100 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1951
788.101 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1952
788.102 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1952
788.103. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1953-54
788.104. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1954-55
788.94490. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1955-56
788.91191. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1956-57
788.94492. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1957-58
788.94493. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1958-59
788.94494. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1958-59
788.94495. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1960-62
788.94330 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1963
788.94331 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1964
788.94332 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1965
VESPA SEARS (125cc)
788.94370 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1966
VESPA SPRINT SEARS (150cc)
788.94360 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1966
Some of the information above from http://www.garnersclassicscooters.com/Vespa-ID.htm
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More Sears Models
* 250 Scrambler 810.94201
* 250 Early 810.94222
* 250 Late (square tanker `67-`69) 810.89571/2
* Compact scooter (early model w/steel front fender) 810.94380
* Sport MoPed 810.94060/9
* MoPed 810.94020
* SR175 810.94211
* SR125 (radial head chrome-bore 2-stroke) 810.89581
* SR124 (Gilera) 808.895511
* 106SS (Gilera) 808.895403/13/23/33
* Sears Sabre Puch 50cc 810.89511
A lil on Royal Enfield.
Royal Enfield was the brand of the Enfield Cycle Company, an English engineering company. Most famous for producing motorcycles, they also produced bicycles, lawnmowers, stationary engines, and even rifle parts for the Royal Small Arms Factory in Enfield Lock. This legacy of weapons manufacture is reflected in the logo, a cannon, and their motto "Made like a gun, goes like a bullet". It also enabled the use of the brand name Royal Enfield from 1890.
In 1955 Enfield of India started assembling Bullet motorcycles under licence from UK components, and by 1962 were manufacturing complete bikes. The original Redditch, Worcestershire-based company dissolved in 1970, but Enfield of India, based in Chennai, continued, and bought the rights to the Royal Enfield name in 1995. Royal Enfield production continues, and now Royal Enfield is considered the oldest motorcycle model in the world still in production and Bullet is the longest production run model.
I don't think RE ever made bikes for Sears though. ;)
Hoist! 8)
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Asking these guys what they think of a non 45 degree vtwin will only bring grief! They can't see past the HD logo.
I had a bit of experience with the bike back 40 years or so. Twolaner said it best ,Brit bike typical oil leaker but back then if you had one you were the chit. It would make a nice putt around bike if you like retro. :2vrolijk_21:
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Asking these guys what they think of a non 45 degree vtwin will only bring grief! They can't see past the HD logo.
I had a bit of experience with the bike back 40 years or so. Twolaner said it best ,Brit bike typical oil leaker but back then if you had one you were the chit. It would make a nice putt around bike if you like retro. :2vrolijk_21:
That's exactly why I'm going the 900cc vertical twin Triumph Thruxton route! Old and new Brit technology combined, for the ole Bit look and feel, without the oil leaks and Lucas electrical problems! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
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Aren't these the motorcycles Sears and Roebuck used to sell out of their catalogs in the sixties? I remember a neighbored friend that bugged his dad for a motorcycle so he could ride with a group of us on Hodaka's. His dad finally got him motorbike out of the Sears catalog. The first time he went riding with us and on the first jump, he came down and both foot pegs broke right of the frame and his new shiny Sears bike was bent to hell. Needles to say,, he never rode with us again. :P :P
The sears bike was an Allstate
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Asking these guys what they think of a non 45 degree vtwin will only bring grief! They can't see past the HD logo.
I had a bit of experience with the bike back 40 years or so. Twolaner said it best ,Brit bike typical oil leaker but back then if you had one you were the chit. It would make a nice putt around bike if you like retro. :2vrolijk_21:
I still think back very fondly of a few Brit bikes I had. You did bring your tools. They did break or need regular maintenance. And they certainly leaked. But they were cool. And they endeared, even if maybe just in hindsight.
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That's exactly why I'm going the 900cc vertical twin Triumph Thruxton route! Old and new Brit technology combined, for the ole Bit look and feel, without the oil leaks and Lucas electrical problems! ;) :2vrolijk_21:
Hoist! 8)
Very nice ride the Triumph :2vrolijk_21:
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RE's were originally English bikes. Here's some info on past Sears offerings.
Sears Allstate Made in Italy and Austria
from the early 1950s to late 1970s
Puch
Gilera
Sachs
Vespa
Sears Allstate Forum
Sears Allstate Directory
Motorcycles, Scooters and Mopeds
Brief History of the Marque: Sears Allstate
Puch two-strokes from Austria were sold by Sears-Roebuck of Chicago from the 1950s to at least 1979 under the Sears Allstate label. Sears sold scooters built by Vespa 1952 to at least 1967, as there is one advertised in their Spring '67 catalog. They also sold Italian machines manufactured by Gilera.
Sears Allstate by Troyce Walls
VESPA ALLSTATE 125cc
788.100 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1951
788.101 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1952
788.102 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1952
788.103. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1953-54
788.104. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1954-55
788.94490. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1955-56
788.91191. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1956-57
788.94492. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1957-58
788.94493. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1958-59
788.94494. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1958-59
788.94495. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1960-62
788.94330 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1963
788.94331 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1964
788.94332 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1965
VESPA SEARS (125cc)
788.94370 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1966
VESPA SPRINT SEARS (150cc)
788.94360 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1966
Some of the information above from http://www.garnersclassicscooters.com/Vespa-ID.htm
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More Sears Models
* 250 Scrambler 810.94201
* 250 Early 810.94222
* 250 Late (square tanker `67-`69) 810.89571/2
* Compact scooter (early model w/steel front fender) 810.94380
* Sport MoPed 810.94060/9
* MoPed 810.94020
* SR175 810.94211
* SR125 (radial head chrome-bore 2-stroke) 810.89581
* SR124 (Gilera) 808.895511
* 106SS (Gilera) 808.895403/13/23/33
* Sears Sabre Puch 50cc 810.89511
A lil on Royal Enfield.
Royal Enfield was the brand of the Enfield Cycle Company, an English engineering company. Most famous for producing motorcycles, they also produced bicycles, lawnmowers, stationary engines, and even rifle parts for the Royal Small Arms Factory in Enfield Lock. This legacy of weapons manufacture is reflected in the logo, a cannon, and their motto "Made like a gun, goes like a bullet". It also enabled the use of the brand name Royal Enfield from 1890.
In 1955 Enfield of India started assembling Bullet motorcycles under licence from UK components, and by 1962 were manufacturing complete bikes. The original Redditch, Worcestershire-based company dissolved in 1970, but Enfield of India, based in Chennai, continued, and bought the rights to the Royal Enfield name in 1995. Royal Enfield production continues, and now Royal Enfield is considered the oldest motorcycle model in the world still in production and Bullet is the longest production run model.
I don't think RE ever made bikes for Sears though. ;)
Hoist! 8)
Gotta give ya props on the research for the Sears Allstate stuff..... BUT one important group was left out of the mix for the Sears product line.
They had their own brand of Cushman scooter that were of course Allstate Scooters. Not sure of the exact years, but I owned a '59 Sears/Cushman and I think they did that from the mid '50s maybe until Cushman closed up in '65.
The bottom line was this, Sears would private label anything they could to make money. The Henry J car of the late '40s and early '50s was private labeled the Allstate, so two wheelers were not the only thing you could by with a motor in it from Sears.
My family has a 1923 Sears catalog that even has housed listed for sale.
Thanks for the memories of the Allstate two wheelers.
:) :) :)
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The sears bike was an Allstate
Affectionately known as the Puch (pronounced "pooch").....my worthless ex-brother-in-law had one back in the day. Fairly decent bike for the times...unlike the worthless ex-brother-in-law.
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I test rode one...the muffler fell off..
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Affectionately known as the Puch (pronounced "pooch").....my worthless ex-brother-in-law had one back in the day. Fairly decent bike for the times...unlike the worthless ex-brother-in-law.
My folks had two when I was a kid. The ones they had were actually mopeds. It was the first motorized bike I ever rode.
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These guys sell then the in the next town north of me, I looked at them, never road one or know anyone That owns one.
http://www.uniqueridesco.com/home/
Craig
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I test rode one...the muffler fell off..
See, easy to customize into a bobber, just ride until everything you don't want falls off!
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There was a article in Easyrider last year about the movie Riding Solo to the Top of the World. It was about a Indian photographer who rode a RE to top of the Himalayas. I sent away for it and have watched it several times. Great flick and a great bike to ride when your life depends on it. Watch this flick and make up your own mind on the reliability of this motorcycle. Doc
http://dirttrackproductions.com/trailers/ridingsolo/index.html#rs
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HeHe!!! These are Indian! They're made in India! ;D
Kinda pieces of junk too! At least the new one I rode a few years ago was! ;)
Hoist! 8)
Once you change over the charging system then the scoot becomes a decent scoot.
Friend of mine has one with the hack and I enjoy the heck out of riding that bike :2vrolijk_21: around town....it is not a bike to go cross country with......unless you have 2 months to do so :coolblue: