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[Whiskey Jim]

 Looking for starter help. I just purchased 05 SEEG and it starts fine cold but has trouble when hot. Starter grinds and acts like it cant engage. Any ideas?

[hdbrad03]

Welcome to the crowd. I replaced the ring gear and pinion to a 10/84 setup. Solved the issue.

http://www.mcadvantages.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cProducts.view&productid=16765&cids=-1,34,165,168

 
Brad

[porthole]

Looking for starter help. I just purchased 05 SEEG and it starts fine cold but has trouble when hot. Starter grinds and acts like it cant engage. Any ideas?

Sounds about normal. I find it best to let the engine cool down at least 15 minutes before re-starting.

[hd-dude]

Check your battery cables. Pull the sheath back, If you see any corrosion on the copper replace them.

[ccr]

I can not start my bike after it has been underway for a bit unless I kick it into neutral.  I am on starter 3.  The original crapped out soon after new - replaced with chrome, which died - on the road in the middle of a ride all kinds of burned up stuff.  Replaced that one with chrome and it is still living, but still gives problems.  Leave the house, go five miles stop for gas, gotta kick it down into neutral to start.  Sorry for your problems.

[BAKRDS]

Guess I've been lucky.Only had to replace the bendix drive on my '04 at about 50,000 miles.If it didn't start the 1st time over it would slam in & out 'till it sounded like it was going to come apart.

[Whiskey Jim]

Hey guys thanks for the responses turn out to have been a weak starter. Dealer took almost three weeks to solve issue did not give me a warm fuzzy if there are futher issues. Thanks again.

[Gettinold]

Let us know how it holds up.

[Boatman]

Welcome to the crowd. I replaced the ring gear and pinion to a 10/84 setup. Solved the issue.

http://www.mcadvantages.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cProducts.view&productid=16765&cids=-1,34,165,168

 
Brad

Jim, I did the same as Brad.  Completely happy with the Rivera 10-84T ring gear set up.  The stock gearset is a 102T fine mesh setup where the Rivera has a larger pinion (bendix) gear and a smaller ringear so the teeth splines are coarser.  When the bendix engages into the ringear, it is easier for the 2 gears to mesh.

When you have the primary cover off, the old ringear does not look that bad, but once you have the clutch hub off, you can see the teeth much better.

I also put the chrome starter on at that time and looks great with the TD headpipes.

TECH TIP-Tighten the jackshaft bolt hand tight and don't torque it to the 60-80" #'s..  (Just tighten the bolt to the point where the pinion gear just starts to turn).  I have more starter experience than I want.  Works great now.  Will write a report after Maggie Valley trip.

[porthole]

Works great now.  Will write a report after Maggie Valley trip.

Well, you've been home a week now git with it 

[porthole]

I can not start my bike after it has been underway for a bit unless I kick it into neutral.  I am on starter 3.  The original crapped out soon after new - replaced with chrome, which died - on the road in the middle of a ride all kinds of burned up stuff.  Replaced that one with chrome and it is still living, but still gives problems.  Leave the house, go five miles stop for gas, gotta kick it down into neutral to start.  Sorry for your problems.

Two SEEG's mine and Bob's

Mine I can start with no problems anytime in gear
Bob's - has to be in neutral

Both - sound like chit when hot and grind like all those that have the same bike know. I thought CR's would help, but the ring gear seems easier.

Bob - is that a Riviera part? the link didn't specify. Did you try getting it from a 20% dealer?

[JCZ]

I think I've had a problem five times in the 42k miles.  When the bike gets really hot (when it's up above 100 F outside and I've rode a long way) and I turn it off for gas or whatever, it will not start when I hit the starter button.  It doesn't do anything except a small click on two of the occassions.

Three times, my road dogs pushed me down the driveway (doesn't take much to push start them) and twice I've used a small piece of wire that I now keep in my windshield pouch to jump it over.

It certainly doesn't do it every time it gets hot, since it's often over 100F here and not even often enough that I've done anything more with it than to check the cables.

[Cvostu]

i made sure that the cables from the battery were nice and tight and the same with the ground wires inder the seat connected to the frame. Seems to be much better.  Starts right up just about any and all the time now.

[VANAMAL]

http://harleyzone.tenmagazines.com/ew/topic.asp?id=77827&s=service_bulletin_starter

[Boatman]

Bob - is that a Riviera part? the link didn't specify. Did you try getting it from a 20% dealer?

Duane-The link provided is a gear set from Compufire.  I used the 10-84 gearset from Rivera.  I bought  the Rivera gearset from a recommendation of Mark from M&M Cycles over the Compufire as he did not like the Compufire starters.  He will sell you the Rivera gearset and primary gasket and seal kit from Cometic at 15-20% off list.  I also put on the MOCO chrome starter and the Rivera starter jackshaft kit at the time of the ringear replacement.

www.mandmcycles.com   The main thing you have to remember with Mark is that it takes 10-14 days to get as he has to order most everything.