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[hd2003-se2005]

When I bought the bike I convinced them throw in the Race Tuner. I also had them take the cost of the dyno off the price of the bike (the dyno was at their sister company). In the end I spent $550 on the Rineharts installed. 97 HP and 101 TQ for $550 more...not too bad. (of course this doesn't include the dyno time $240)

Forgot about the stage 1 and air filter. Add $150.  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Lets see

97 -  84 = 13 H/P
550 + 150 =700
$700.00 for 13 H/P = $53.84 per horsepower
Good #'s Mr Laker!

[Twolanerider]

Ladies and Gentlemen of CVO.  Regarding the thread he has started here Fatboy has asked the moderators if we would request of users to limit a bit the extraneous chatter in this thread that we are all so prone to drop in during the conversations.   Fatboy is very interested in what the options are and would really like to narrow the focus down here to SEEG options, work that has been done, what the expenses might be, and how productive things have been.

Have read through the thread and it's actually surprisingly good (compared to most of our threads) for staying on topic.  It does, however, have the few drop-ins.  A response, and a response to a response that have no relavence at all to the questions Fatboy asked of us.  One of these responses is in fact my own.

In light of our fellow user's request here I'm going to quickly scan back through the thread and remove my post that didn't specifically respond to the questions asked at the beginning.  As a gesture of courtesy to Fatboy and his thread I'd asked each of the rest of you to quickly scan back through and see if you too have a post that merely converses but doesn't respond to his original question.  If you do have such a post or posts please consider removing them as I did mine.  

It was Fatboy's question after all.  It is important to him.  There are certainly any number of other threads where we might and will banter and chatter without intruding on a valuable topic that is contempary and important to one of our users.  

Lastly let me just point out the obvious.  If you do find something that is just conversation, doesn't specifically answer the gentleman's questions, and that you deem ok to remove; you don't then need to defeat the purpose of the removal by writing a new post saying that you've done so  [smiley=7.gif]

Thanks everyone,
Don

[DCFIREMANN]

Ok I'll give it a try. Before the Zippers throttle body and a/c and ECM. I had a S/E air cleaner $100.00,power commander $320.00 ( I think)and a thunder header with heat shields $625.00.  For a grand total of $1045.00 When finished

H/P 98
TQ  107

It runs much better now than it did then with the zippers GFC (go fast chit) Throttle body with air cleaner $250.00 (off ebay) Air cleaner cover(from zippers) $45.00 and Zippers ECM $400.00 with thunder header for a grand total of $1320.00 Sorry I need to get her dynoed.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[OTIS]

I have a 95 in  10.5 pistons se hi perf heads comp cams ground to my specs. Egine was
blueprinted very well, have a Harley download into the stock Delphi computer. Bike has not been dyno since last cam changes . But if you count these people who say they have all this HP I must have 120 because I have busted all thier asses.

                                   I REMAIN OTIS [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[SHRADER]

Hey Guys

HD SE HTCC CNC Ported Heads
HD SE High Compression Stroker Pistons
HD SE Adjustable Pushrods
HD SE EFI Race Tuner
HD SE 253 Cam
HD SE Air Cleaner
Rineharts


105.8 Horsepower  107.1 Torque


Change to HD SE 258 Cam and Billet Sucker

113.2 Horsepower   115.2 Torque on the same dyno


Ya'll do the math

REGARDS
SHRADER

[Twolanerider]

Shrader, hope you don't mind.  I resized your dyno sheet file to 800x600 so it would fit and display better and reposted it.

Without even worrying about where the top ends of the numbers are I love how early some of that is coming.  That it's all in relatively early is just icing on the cake.  That's nice.

[hd2003-se2005]

Hey Shrader

We can't do the math if we don't have #s.
I know you probably got some deals from working where you did so give us the #'s that normal people would have paid. (does that make you not normal?)



And Otis some cost on yours would help also. Did that blueprinting help a lot and what was the cost?

[OTIS]

Hey Shrader

We can't do the math if we don't have #s.
I know you probably got some deals from working where you did so give us the #'s that normal people would have paid. (does that make you not normal?)



And Otis some cost on your would help also. Did that blueprinting help a lot and what was the cost?

You dont want to know parts cost , you would be upset at the time we built the  motor my wife was one of the managers at the HD store.

                                                         OTIS

[hd2003-se2005]

 [smiley=oops.gif] Otis, I forgot about that.

If you could, do like I asked Shrader and post the prices that normal people would have to pay for the same mods.

Thanks

[OTIS]

[smiley=oops.gif] Otis, I forgot about that.

If you could, do like I asked Shrader and post the prices that normal people would have to pay for the same mods.

Thanks

  Blueprinting works great the  better parts fit the better they work.You got prices on going fast last week now bite the bullet.

                                                               OTIS

[MAVERICK]

   Blueprinting works great the  better parts fit the better they work.You got prices on going fast last week now bite the bullet.

                                                                OTIS

Otis, ride it like you stold it!!!

[SHRADER]

Thanks twolane for resizing the dyno chart. You are a real pal.

Now for the numbers. Since I don't have an SE book in front of me I'll try to use ballpark numbers from memory, so if I'm off a little don't hassle me too bad.

SE HTCC HEADS                              1350
SE HIGH COMP STOKER PISTONS      270
PUSHRODS                                        120
AIR CLEANER                                     140
EFI RACE TUNER                                450
RINEHARTS                                         808
TOTAL   3138

THEN LATER   258 CAM     270
BILLET SUCKER                 200
TOTAL          470
PLUS LABOR OF COURSE

So to gain 31HP would have spent about 3600 or $116 per HP.


REGARDS
SHRADER

[SHRADER]

Who is it that says "cubic horsepower equals cubic dollars"

SHRADER

[hd2003-se2005]

OK guys thanks for the information

I just figured all this again and can you imagine, there's a trend emerging!


Laker                       13 H/P               $53.84 per H/P
hd-dude                19 H/P                  $73.69 per H/P
HD2003                 17 H/P                  $82.35 per H/P
TwoLane              16.5H/P                 $81.78 per H/P
Shrader                 31 H/P                  $116.00 per H/P
DCFireman            14 H/P                  $74.64  per H/P

OTIS, can't add you to the list till we have more info!



Yes I know, these cost are subjective.
We have all experimented and spent more than these cost but for comparison cost I am just using what the latest mods are.

Keep it coming!                                                              revised 7/11/05 to add DCFireman

[Twolanerider]

OK guys thanks for the information

I just figured all this again and can you imagine, there's a trend emerging!


Laker                     13 H/P            $53.84      per H/P
hd-dude                19 H/P            $73.69     per H/P
HD2003                 17 H/P            $82.35     per H/P
TwoLane              16.5H/P           $81.78     per H/P
Shrader                 31 H/P            $116.00   per H/P

DAWG, OTIS, can't add you to the list till we have more info!


Yes I know, these cost are subjective.
We have all experimented and spent more than these cost but for comparison cost I am just using what the latest mods are.

Keep it coming!

I didn't go back through the thread to look Chip but did anyone else break the expenditure down to before and after dyno tuning?  We all realize it's all part of the same package.  But it was a little surprising to see the stark contrast and just how completely cost effective the dyno tuning was.