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Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« on: January 31, 2015, 03:13:34 PM »

Anyone else having an issue with the cruise control disengaging using the front brake lever?  Quite a few times now I have squeezed the front brake lever to turn off the cruise and the pressure is enough to lunge the bike (braking) but when I release the cruise is still active and I speed up again.  No problem if I squeeze the lever for 2+ seconds....but it used to turn off with just a "flick" of the brake.  I brought it to my dealers attention and (of course) they couldn't "replicate the issue" (I'm pretty sure that is mechanic talk for 'I don't want to deal with it').

Anyone else have this problem?
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2015, 03:23:02 PM »

Yes. I have noticed this as well and stopped relying on the brake to turn off the cruise as you would expect. I like to use the cruise only when there is very light traffic and the need to brake is hopefully reduced. Still it's not an excuse and it should work as well as it does in my car.


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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2015, 06:04:25 PM »

Have you had someone watch to see if the brake light is illuminating all the time when the front lever is being pulled?
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2015, 08:26:45 PM »

Honestly have never tired to shut cruise off using front brake unless it was a panic type slow down or stop.  Usually when using cruise if I need it off due to approaching slower traffic I just roll the throttle forward and cruise shuts off, then position throttle where I need it.

Sounds like the issue might be with the front brake switch though.
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2015, 06:11:04 PM »

I use the cruise, constantly on every ride. I always hit front brake to cancel as I hardly ever use the rear brake unless panic stop. Never had a problem on any of the bikes over the years with touch of frt brake lever not kicking it off. Make dealer due elec pin-point test on circuit. Complain it is a safety issue, complain loudly.
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 04:43:27 PM »

I have also ran into this problem on occasion but I'm not sure why it does it sometimes it seems to work I just use my rear brake and it seems to work better. Maybe harley will recall it eventually lol.
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 05:08:04 PM »

My Tech said that it is a delay to the brake module. But I have found that it is easier to use the throttle as you do not give off a brake light and alert others . Billy
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 05:42:28 PM »

My Tech said that it is a delay to the brake module. But I have found that it is easier to use the throttle as you do not give off a brake light and alert others . Billy

I seriously doubt that.  Is there also a delay for the brake lights to come on?  The speed of the electrons in that circuit is astonishingly fast, and the cruise on the late model bikes is handled by the ECM and the Electronic Throttle Control.  Both of those have very fast response times as well.

I've always personally preferred tapping the front brake, but to each their own.  At least you have multiple choices for disengagement, from turning off the switch, using either brake, rolling the throttle back, or pulling the clutch lever.  If all of those fail, throw out the optional H-D brand anchor and hold on.

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2015, 07:19:14 PM »

I've always personally preferred tapping the front brake, but to each their own.  At least you have multiple choices for disengagement, from turning off the switch, using either brake, rolling the throttle back, or pulling the clutch lever.  If all of those fail, throw out the optional H-D brand anchor and hold on.   Jerry

I always tap the front brake as well and have had no issues.  But, I am curious Jerry...which H-D anchor do you recommend...painted or chrome and what length of chain should one consider?   
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 07:43:21 PM »

Come on now, you know it wouldn't be an official H-D anchor unless it was chromed (most likely cheap Chinese chrome of course). ;)  I think about 50 feet of official Harley chain should do the trick.  A pair of official Harley branded Depends might also be a good idea.

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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2015, 04:49:12 PM »

Just read this thread, had to laugh at the anchor and chain! Seriously, I have the same 2014 model hibernating at the moment, but anything to do with cruise not working is a worry. Harleychief2011, has the problem been identified and fixed yet? Particularly worrying as Jerry said, everything is controlled by the ECU  and if HAL has invaded the cruise control, what else may or may not stop working without any warning?
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2015, 05:29:16 PM »

I have a 2013 never had this problem. Always tap the front brake to release the cruise. Get it fixed. In an emergency stop you don't want to be thinking about this instead of the problem at hand.   
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2015, 02:37:41 AM »

Mine is still working ok, well it was last weekend. Take it to the dealer the bike must still be under warrenty
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2015, 02:27:10 PM »

Thanks for all the replies everyone!  Sorry its been awhile...slammed with work and then got into a major (60mph) accident on Monday.  Totaled the car...would have been dead on the bike!  Any other day I would have been on my motorcycle but decided to take the car because we just drove in from San Diego (400 miles) that morning!

I didnt even know you could disengage the cruise by rolling forward!  That is why I love this forum! 

Definitely going to have it checked again during my next service!  Maybe I'll hit them up for one of those chrome anchors!  LOL!
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Re: Cruise Control Disengage (Front Brake)
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2015, 08:11:03 PM »

Thanks for all the replies everyone!  Sorry its been awhile...slammed with work and then got into a major (60mph) accident on Monday.  Totaled the car...would have been dead on the bike!  Any other day I would have been on my motorcycle but decided to take the car because we just drove in from San Diego (400 miles) that morning!

I didnt even know you could disengage the cruise by rolling forward!  That is why I love this forum! 

Definitely going to have it checked again during my next service!  Maybe I'll hit them up for one of those chrome anchors!  LOL!

Glad you were in the car, not the bike.  Sorry you were in a accident.

For me, rolling it forward is the way I do it 90% of the time.  When I am on cruise, I usually do not need to stop, or even slow down quickly.  I just need to coast down a bit due to traffic. 

That said front brake should disengage it.
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