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[hd-dude]

A customer ordered these from me and had them installed today, They are the new spot lamp turn signal combo from Kury Akyn. The install instructions have you wiring the power to the spare power lead at the headlamps that is used for the international models. I felt that this wire guage was way to small for the current draw of the spot lamps so I wired them back the a relay that I drove from the aux switch in the fairing. Also the studs that came with the lights were a bit too short so I used the studs from the stock signal mounts instead.  Overall the look is great and they seem to really throw the light at well.

Here are a few pics of the final product:

[hd-dude]

another...

[hd-dude]

another....

[Puzzled]

What for output are the spots? Are they a pencil beam or a flood pattern?

[hd-dude]

Last one, Also these come with standard bulbs, we changed them out to the LED conversion kit.

[Twolanerider]

Thanks for posting these images Jim.  Had been waiting and waiting to see these on a bike.  Was very interested but could never build an image in my head that I was satisfied was accurate as to what they'd look like.

Everyone's tastes vary.  Unfortunately for me, however, they don't just reach out and grab me.  I'm sure the new owner there will love them though.  I may just change the stock signal housing out for a set of stalks and bullet housing from the newer bikes though.  Will probably satisfy me quite well.

[Puzzled]

(snip)  I may just change the stock signal housing out for a set of stalks and bullet housing from the newer bikes though.  Will probably satisfy me quite well.

That is what I did! Those pancake lenses are HUGE in comparison.

I'd be curious if one could manipulate the brackets and get the larger lights on the bottom. I see the fairing removal as being tedious with them there. The pics look better than the "drawings" that Kury had posted at one time.

[hd-dude]

Mike;
They are considered a spot lamp and use the H3 bulb although they do spread out fairly well. I did not ride it at night so I do not have a night time report but in the shop they are comparable to the spots on the electra-glides

[Puzzled]

Thank you.

[hd-dude]

Fairing removal will be more difficult for sure as they are fairly heavy. Still just the two nuts to remove and slide them out of the way. These actually suprised me in the looks department. Much better than the concept drawings Kury had.

[Twolanerider]

That is what I did! Those pancake lenses are HUGE in comparison.

I'd be curious if one could manipulate the brackets and get the larger lights on the bottom. I see the fairing removal as being tedious with them there. The pics look better than the "drawings" that Kury had posted at one time.

I'd wondered the same; especially when seeing Kuryakyn's original picture and line drawings that were posted for awhile.  Just want something better than the big pancake lights out front.  Had been waiting to see just what these Kuryakyn pieces would look like.  Thanks again Jim for sharing the photos.

[hd-dude]

I'd wondered the same; especially when seeing Kuryakyn's original picture and line drawings that were posted for awhile.  Just want something better than the big pancake lights out front.  Had been waiting to see just what these Kuryakyn pieces would look like.  Thanks again Jim for sharing the photos.

You got it , I knew there were poeple waiting to see these (including myself )

[BALIS]

Thanks for posting the pics.
I like it.

[serghaven]

Looks great, Please let us know how much light they put out after you test them out.

[LarryB]

I'm with TLR on this one, it's ok but, not for me. I would be interested in one that worked with the forks or something like that, that would turn the light as you turned, would have to be small and low profile, maybe mounted low. Oh ya, would have to rub my neck and fetch me beer too. hey, we can only hope.

[PR3VS56]

I'm with TLR on this one, it's ok but, not for me. I would be interested in one that worked with the forks or something like that, that would turn the light as you turned, would have to be small and low profile, maybe mounted low. Oh ya, would have to rub my neck and fetch me beer too. hey, we can only hope.

I had the oval Harley foglamps on my previous RG.  They mount to the crash bar, and look & work great imo.  They don't turn with the fork, but I didn't see that as a problem & will definitely add them to my new RG as well.   

[Twolanerider]

I'm with TLR on this one, it's ok but, not for me. I would be interested in one that worked with the forks or something like that, that would turn the light as you turned, would have to be small and low profile, maybe mounted low. Oh ya, would have to rub my neck and fetch me beer too. hey, we can only hope.

Larry, search for pictures of MJZ's bikes.  He's got something called "Motolights" (I think that's right) installed.  They're bright, small and mounted at the brake caliper.

[mr_magoo]

Try here http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=24109.0

[Twolanerider]

Try here http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=24109.0

That's it.  Thanks Dave.  Their cost had slipped my mind until rereading that thread.  Mark and a few others love theirs. Now I remember never being able to quite digest $500 or more for a pair of lights though.  If anyone is interested in more just dug up the company website:  http://www.motolight.com/

[MIKEYTEE]

Motolights, the best damn aux. lighting there is available. Worth every penny!
SEE and BE SEEN!!!!
Wouldn't ride without them.
Mike
 

[PR3VS56]

The Motolights come standard with a 35W Halogen, and optional 50W Halogen.  $385 + $15 for the optional 50W bulb.

The engine guard mounted fog lights from Harley are 55W Halogens.  Includes switch, relay, and wiring.  $139.95 ($127 to the front door from Zanotti's).  I've not ridden with the Motolights, but I have ridden with the Harley lights.  They are very bright -- as much as I would ever want -- and throw a nice, wide, flat beam.  .02

I like the way they look too.  pn 68913-98B

It also seems to me that a higher mount works better.  You're able to go out further without aiming up.  My riding buddies always told me I was VERY visible with them on during daylight.  Why spend more when the best is less?

Plus, I didn't want the external wiring with the Motolights.   On the HD lights, all internal wiring.  Very clean install.

[Rickybobby]

Here is another view on Moto lights - i have had them on a number of my bikes over the years so i have had many miles experience with them.

PRO'S
-They are almost in-destructible
-They create a visibility for oncoming traffic like no other lights - YOUR visibility is increased many fold, particularly if you bump up the bulbs to the next wattage (which i cant seem to remember what that is right now)
-Replacement bulbs are cheap, cheap, cheap - they can be purchased at any lighting store

CON's
-They are pricey
-I am not particularly fond of the appearance on certain bikes - but that is a personal opinion
-I think they do a VERY Mediocre job, at best, in lighting up the road - they are really there to increase you being seen versus seeing things IMHO.

Will post some pictures of what i ended up putting on my SERG to increase my visibility to SEE and be SEEN.   Piaa makes a bracket and lights that fit perfectly on the crash bars.  The triangle really causes you to be seen and the lights are up high enough and bright enough to really light up the road at night.   They are spendy - in the $400-450 range but i think really do the job and fit well with the look of the bike.

Gotta charge the camera but will post some pics in a bit.

[Rickybobby]

Here are some pics

[Rickybobby]

And another

[Rickybobby]

Sorry about the poor quality of photographs

[Rickybobby]

Last one

[GregKhougaz]

$.02:

          Jim,  the look of the driving lights is subjective and I'm sure a lot of folks will love them.  But..., Kuryakyn lists these halogen driving lights at $389!  Do they project as much light as the Xenon lights?  With Xenon, the conversion is $120 and you get a lot of light.  So much so you almost never need high beams.  Don't want to be negative but seems like a much more efficient option.  Did the Kuryakyn front signals, though.  The LED's are much brighter and match the LED tail lights better than stock... 

GK

[PR3VS56]

$.02:

          Jim,  the look of the driving lights is subjective and I'm sure a lot of folks will love them.  But..., Kuryakyn lists these halogen driving lights at $389!  Do they project as much light as the Xenon lights?  With Xenon, the conversion is $120 and you get a lot of light.  So much so you almost never need high beams.  Don't want to be negative but seems like a much more efficient option.  Did the Kuryakyn front signals, though.  The LED's are much brighter and match the LED tail lights better than stock... 

GK

What Xenon lights?  Do they replace the stock headlamp bulbs?

[hd-dude]

Not sure what lights you are refering to for $120. But to answer your question, do halogen bulbs compare to Xenon? No. Xenon HID lights project farther and are brighter than halogen. Like everything else out there there are 100 HID lights and 500 HID lights, digital kits and non digital kits.....all I can say is in most cases you get what you pay for. I sell HID kits, Moto Lights and Kury products. I am not promoting these Kury Akyn lights as the answer to lights just wanted to share the pics of the installed products here for members to see. For what its worth I have HID headlamp on my own bike and will never have a bike again without.

[RickC]

I'm with TLR on this one, it's ok but, not for me. I would be interested in one that worked with the forks or something like that, that would turn the light as you turned, would have to be small and low profile, maybe mounted low. Oh ya, would have to rub my neck and fetch me beer too. hey, we can only hope.

Maybe you should look at the brake-caliper-mouted MotoLights (see http://www.motolight.com/). The only downside is the price -- $545!!

[LarryB]

pretty big down side. looks like i just change out head lamp

[GregKhougaz]

What Xenon lights?  Do they replace the stock headlamp bulbs?

I installed the ones from Xenonlink.com:  1 x H4(9003, HB2) Hi/Lo 6000K Automobile HID Kit
                                                        - Buyer Location: Locate in US & Canada $119.99

See this thread by Jim Kerr as well:  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=28425.0   With these, you get more light than you need and it's a very clean, white light.  The 6000 kit is pure white.  Higher numbers get a bit blue.  You'll definitely get noticed!  (BTW, read all of Jim's posts.  I learned a lot.)

[PR3VS56]

I installed the ones from Xenonlink.com:  1 x H4(9003, HB2) Hi/Lo 6000K Automobile HID Kit
                                                        - Buyer Location: Locate in US & Canada $119.99

See this thread by Jim Kerr as well:  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=28425.0   With these, you get more light than you need and it's a very clean, white light.  The 6000 kit is pure white.  Higher numbers get a bit blue.  You'll definitely get noticed!  (BTW, read all of Jim's posts.  I learned a lot.)

Great!  Thank you.

[Crusty]

Since I've got LarryB hooking me up with lowers, bar mounted options are out. that leaves dual turn/spots or motolights. Motolights have a fantastic rep in the LD riding community... and the price for chrome is now only $100 more than brushed.

Looks like the 3 options I've read about here are the highwaystar or Kury for the combo, or motolights. Anyone else done anything they want to share to add more light.

Since I'll have the fairing cracked open for the HW install, I am going to have them go ahead and throw in HIDs and driving lights... just gotta come up with a plan. Jim (HD-Dude), if you've got any words of wisdom on what you can hook me up with, I am all ears!!   

[11]

Headwinds has the best looking Road Glide ad on lights on the market. They are also pricey but have billet housings, come with or without visor housings etc. Look at there web page. Price similar to Kurakyn as is the design/mounting. The only real difference is the Headwinds stuff is upper class high quality vs Kurakyn which is ... kurakyn.
They (Headwinds) will be in Daytona this week at J&P Cycles, usually he give pretty good discounts if cash involved.

[Crusty]

Headwinds has the best looking Road Glide ad on lights on the market. They are also pricey but have billet housings, come with or without visor housings etc. Look at there web page. Price similar to Kurakyn as is the design/mounting. The only real difference is the Headwinds stuff is upper class high quality vs Kurakyn which is ... kurakyn.
They (Headwinds) will be in Daytona this week at J&P Cycles, usually he give pretty good discounts if cash involved.

They look pretty solid.. just wish I could find more pics of them installed on RGs.

I'll have to see who I know that'll be in Daytona.. maybe they can score me a deal. But I'd like to get them installed in Nov, since the dealer will have the fairing cracked open anyway.

Thanks for the reply!

[Twolanerider]

They look pretty solid.. just wish I could find more pics of them installed on RGs.

I'll have to see who I know that'll be in Daytona.. maybe they can score me a deal. But I'd like to get them installed in Nov, since the dealer will have the fairing cracked open anyway.

Thanks for the reply!

Different strokes for different folks of course.   But after several months of consideration of all the options I didn't do any.  Could just never talk myself in to it.  Of all the options the Headwinds were far and away my favorite.  Eventually saw just about all the options in person too.  But to me the final analysis was that none of them were really proportionate to the fairing and spatially complementary to the area they were filling.  The Headwinds pieces cost too much to always be second guessing myself over. 

Don't get me wrong.  I don't think the turn signal by itself fills the area there especially well either.  Just that it's better by itself than the area is with the added on kits from Kuryakyn or Headwinds.  If it's just a "more-light-is-good-light" thing that's another discussion completely. And an entirely reasonable one.  It was factoring in the aesthetics that kept me from pulling the trigger.

[Crusty]

Different strokes for different folks of course.   But after several months of consideration of all the options I didn't do any.  Could just never talk myself in to it.  Of all the options the Headwinds were far and away my favorite.  Eventually saw just about all the options in person too.  But to me the final analysis was that none of them were really proportionate to the fairing and spatially complementary to the area they were filling.  The Headwinds pieces cost too much to always be second guessing myself over. 

Don't get me wrong.  I don't think the turn signal by itself fills the area there especially well either.  Just that it's better by itself than the area is with the added on kits from Kuryakyn or Headwinds.  If it's just a "more-light-is-good-light" thing that's another discussion completely. And an entirely reasonable one.  It was factoring in the aesthetics that kept me from pulling the trigger.

That's about where I am at... from an asthestics standpoint, trying to keep with the tradition "more chrome is good" mentality, the Kury of HW option seems to be the best one... but I'm not thrilled with the combo look... just looks odd from the limited number of pictures I've seen. WOuld love to see them in person, to be able to get the feel for them in context.

Based on reputaion, the motolights are great... but they also look like an afterthought, and don't really look like they belong either. So I may just wait and see how good the HIDs alone do and then decide if I need to upgrade from there.

Like you, spending $400-$500 on something I'm not sure if I need or like doesn't thrill me.  I do belive having lthe light triangle does significantly increase visibility... but then a nice bright set of HIDs does go a long way to get you noticed too.

[Twolanerider]

That's about where I am at... from an asthestics standpoint, trying to keep with the tradition "more chrome is good" mentality, the Kury of HW option seems to be the best one... but I'm not thrilled with the combo look... just looks odd from the limited number of pictures I've seen. WOuld love to see them in person, to be able to get the feel for them in context.

Based on reputaion, the motolights are great... but they also look like an afterthought, and don't really look like they belong either. So I may just wait and see how good the HIDs alone do and then decide if I need to upgrade from there.

Like you, spending $400-$500 on something I'm not sure if I need or like doesn't thrill me.  I do belive having lthe light triangle does significantly increase visibility... but then a nice bright set of HIDs does go a long way to get you noticed too.

There is one wild goose I did chase early this year that turned out to be a good choice after all.  Some of the guys were discussing the benefit of the headlight reflector that is installed OE on the European bikes.  Saying it was much more focused and generally better than the US product.

Definitely one of those things that could be subjective enough we convince ourselves it's good to justify the expense.  My old reflector was actually crap at the time though.  Peeling inside.  So had to buy something and gave this a shot.

I can't make a comparison of the new part against a good OE part as mine was crap.  As a stand-alone measure, however, it works very well.  This reflector in conjunction with a couple of good (but still relatively standard) Silverstar H4 bulbs is without exaggeration the best stock Harley headlight I've ever ridden behind.  Enough so I've got no intent to convert it to HID.

My SEEG in OE trim with the ostensibly "improved" dual reflector was terrible.  Dangerously so on a dark night.  HIDs made it a fine ride at night.  But nothing else really did.  The Road Glide with the European version of its front reflector and the H4 bulbs is fine at night though.  Not a second thought about twolanes or interstate traffic.  Plenty of light shone for plenty of distance.  If interested at all that reflector housing was part number 68996-01B.

[NVWLDTHG]

For the '09 FLTRSE3, the Parts Catalog list two different "Bulb Housing Assembly";

73242-09 (Domestic) BULB HOUSING ASY HARDENED (Zanotti price $48.17)

73243-09 (HDI, England, Japan) BULB HOUSING ASY HARDENED (Zanotti price $31.19)

I'm wondering if the '00 will interchange with an '09.

[Twolanerider]

For the '09 FLTRSE3, the Parts Catalog list two different "Bulb Housing Assembly";

73242-09 (Domestic) BULB HOUSING ASY HARDENED (Zanotti price $48.17)

73243-09 (HDI, England, Japan) BULB HOUSING ASY HARDENED (Zanotti price $31.19)

I'm wondering if the '00 will interchange with an '09.

The "hardened" assemblies are specific to 09 and newer part numbers.  Specific to them not for differences in mounting or fit but because the outer face of the housing is hardened due to no longer using the old fashioned Road Glide outer bubble.

Several (me included) have used the "old" headlight housing without using the outer protective bubble.  After over a year I've had no hazing, cracking nor other problems.

I don't remember anyone comparing the prior international version to the newer -09 version.  One would have to wonder if the reflectors in each are comparably improved over the US DOT approved version.  I'd honestly not be concerned about using the old version.  But having said that if the reflector in the -09 version were comparable to the older housing using the newer hardened version would be the way to go.

Any European riders with experience on both an 09 or newer and an 08 or prior Road Glide?  If so you notice any difference from the headlights on the older and newer models?

[NVWLDTHG]

Here's a picture of the US (domestic) headlights.  Not exactly 3D, but I tried to center on one and catch the other off-set.

Any chance of Klaus, or one of you other HDI SERG owners posting a similiar picture for comparison?

Thank you.

[Twolanerider]

Here's a picture of the US (domestic) headlights.  Not exactly 3D, but I tried to center on one and catch the other off-set.

Any chance of Klaus, or one of you other HDI SERG owners posting a similiar picture for comparison?

Thank you.

Interesting comparison.  Eyeballing the reflector itself won't tell us (ok, me) anything about how effectively it shines down the road as I've got no idea what would look "good" or "bad" in reflector application.  But the comparison is interesting in and of itself.

Here's the pre-09 version of the international reflector:

[Twolanerider]

And....  Here's a direct comparison of a US DOT and an international reflector.  If (and that's a big "if) I understand what I'm seeing of the shape of the mirrors it does look like the international version would provide more center focus and shoot farther down the road.  Interesting....  Thanks for the good idea.

[NVWLDTHG]

Looking at the reflector wings at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions, that pre-09 sure also has a different edge to edge or side to side focal. 

[martys]

I have a picture of mine without the plastic bubble in front    That might help you

[NVWLDTHG]

Marty, Can you confirm; these are pre-'09?  whether these in Canada are domestic or HDI?  They look significantly different than twolane's (to me). 

[martys]

They are OE on my 2000 Triple Red which was purchased new here in Canada, and they have standard H4 bulbs in them.

[NVWLDTHG]

That’s really interesting to me.  (Some sort of weirdness that I’ve got with parts applications.)  I don’t have an ’00 parts book (I was riding the airhead then), but the ’09 parts book doesn’t appear to include Canada in the HDI applications.  There are only a few instances where Canada is segregated out in the ’09 book.  It’s a tough call with my limited knowledge whether that is a “domestic” or an “HDI” set.  I’d tend to speculate that it is a domestic.  And, that’s only because it appears to be lightly tarnished.  In my youth, we restored old cars and when you’d take a headlight bucket into the platers to get it replated, it would always have to be silver plated as that was the US headlight laws (at least then).  And, of course, it cost much more than chrome.  That may also explain why the ’09 domestic is more expensive than the HDI.  But it is interesting.  Hopefully, one of our EU members will post a pix.  Thank you.

[Crusty]

And....  Here's a direct comparison of a US DOT and an international reflector.  If (and that's a big "if) I understand what I'm seeing of the shape of the mirrors it does look like the international version would provide more center focus and shoot farther down the road.  Interesting....  Thanks for the good idea.

But the int'l version doesn't have the cool HD badge... and we know THAT is more important than function! 

[Highjagger]

What are you discussing here , i don`t get it ?
 And what pic do you want to be posted from the international version ?
 Pic of the headlight from directly front ?

[Highjagger]

hmmmm?

[Highjagger]

hmmm??

[Highjagger]

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[Crusty]

What are you discussing here , i don`t get it ?
 And what pic do you want to be posted from the international version ?
 Pic of the headlight from directly front ?

That one is completely different... it has 2 bulbs?

[Highjagger]

Second ( lower ) bulb is for parking light .

[Twolanerider]

Second ( lower ) bulb is for parking light .

That's a difference between the 09 and newer international housing and the prior one.  On the older ones there's a place for that very small bulb between the headlights (not inside the bulb housings).  It would be protected only by the big outer Road Glide bubble.  It can't be seen on mine because the new black trim replacing the bubble covers the hole where the bulb would otherwise be.

It's a little bulb though.  No practical benefit I could ever figure out.  But some variation of it is I'm told required in Germany so it goes on the international bikes to satisfy that requirement.

The older application of that little pilot light placed between the headlight bulbs seen here from a pic before the newer outer trim was installed.