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[comfortablynumb]

IMO the pump is a ness-necc--necessss-you should definitely have one.A word of caution, whenever I change or check the pressure with the pump, I make sure that I have a little positive pressure on the pump as I make the connection.This will help keep any oil droplets or mist from getting out on the paint.I put some small dimples in my saddlebag lid on my RK.Not too noticable but I know there there.

[HDBaggerDave]

Good topic, made me check.  "0" out of the box, yep, rode kind of hard.  Got 30 in it now, much better.  Can't remember who said it but it is so very true.....the air pump is the only thing I've ever purchased that was under a $100   Thought I got one hell of a deal.

[Gone Fishin']

BTW, I'm still looking for a 12 inch aftermarket air shock which would be better than the Harley Profile junk.  Progressive and others have 13" models, but so far no one I've checked has a shorter version.  Not interested in the adjustable on the fly stuff, just want the same seat height as stock but with decent damping and manual air fill.  

Hi Jerry,

I am not sure if I get you correctly, but Progressive has not only 13, but also 12 and 11.5 inch shocks in regular and heavy duty. Check this out
http://www.progressivesuspension.com/prodSearchResults.aspx?yearID=2009&makeID=37&modelID=1014

Ride safely,
Louis

[Highjagger]

Klaus, maybe if you posted a pic of your BSR we could give you the appropriate air pressure

What do you mean with " pic of my BSR " ?
The SERG do have the short 12" stock shocks .
Is it possible that the dealers have old pumps ( which are limited to 30 psi ) ?
Are there available different pumps from hd ?
Loosing one pound per week means that i should loose 4 psi in 4 weeks , but from 30 to 15 it would mean 3,5 psi per week , that`s not acceptable , i think that i have to mention this thing when i bring it to the first service . 
And then i have to check it on my own ( when i receive the pump , hope next week ) .

[Gone Fishin']

What do you mean with " pic of my BSR " ?
(...)

He means that you should post a picture of your back seat rider ;-)

Ha ha ha

Louis

[Highjagger]

Aaaah ,
I think that i better should not do this because then you will highjack this thread , Muhuhuhahaha .
 But i can tell you that my BSR is not really often on the bike , and has only a little more than half my weight .
Ok , here it is on my Fatboy .

[grc]

Hi Jerry,

I am not sure if I get you correctly, but Progressive has not only 13, but also 12 and 11.5 inch shocks in regular and heavy duty. Check this out
http://www.progressivesuspension.com/prodSearchResults.aspx?yearID=2009&makeID=37&modelID=1014

Ride safely,
Louis

Hi Louis.  On that fitment chart the basic air shock is the model 416, and it's the one that would most closely match what I'm looking for as a straight swap for the original Harley shocks.  Back when I first researched these the web site only showed the 13.0 inch "stock" length.  I notice they now also show 12.6" and 13.5" versions.  That's closer, but still not the 12.0" I'm looking for.  I guess the 12.6" may be the compromise I'll eventually have to go with, but since I seem to be shrinking a little as I age that .6" difference may be just enough to keep me from being able to flat foot the bike when moving it around.  Oh well, such is life.

Thanks for posting that chart though, I was still under the impression that shock only came in one length (13.0) and it's good to know that this alternative is out there.

Jerry

[FLSTFI Dave]

I am running 20 pounds in my shocks on the SERG.  I weigh 185 and have not had a BSR on the bike.  I have not bottomed out yet.  Still trying to decide the best pressure for me, 30 was to high, and 15 to soft.

[Gone Fishin']

Hi Louis.  On that fitment chart the basic air shock is the model 416, and it's the one that would most closely match what I'm looking for as a straight swap for the original Harley shocks.  Back when I first researched these the web site only showed the 13.0 inch "stock" length.  I notice they now also show 12.6" and 13.5" versions.  That's closer, but still not the 12.0" I'm looking for.  I guess the 12.6" may be the compromise I'll eventually have to go with, but since I seem to be shrinking a little as I age that .6" difference may be just enough to keep me from being able to flat foot the bike when moving it around.  Oh well, such is life.

Thanks for posting that chart though, I was still under the impression that shock only came in one length (13.0) and it's good to know that this alternative is out there.

Jerry

Those are 12" - 440-4061B/C and I just put the 11.5" - 440-4060B on my '09 SEUG, to lower it. All shocks are also available in heavy duty, and the ride is just about great.

Take a look at this thread
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=31428.30
and my reply #43

Ride safely,
Louis

[Highjagger]

@ Louis ,
are those heavy duty shocks from hd and do they have air-pressure or do they work just with oil like the progressive ones , i seasrched on the " wilbers " website but i do not know anything about shocks .
Can you tell me which ones are best and which ones fit my SERG ?

[Gone Fishin']

@ Louis ,
are those heavy duty shocks from hd and do they have air-pressure or do they work just with oil like the progressive ones , i seasrched on the " wilbers " website but i do not know anything about shocks .
Can you tell me which ones are best and which ones fit my SERG ?

Progressive 440's do not use air.

Earlier in the thread you mention that the '09 SERG has 12" shocks. In case you do not want to change this parameter (my main reason was to get the E-Glide lowered from 13" to 11.5" in the back), Progressive 12" will be best. There are several shocks to select from, I bought mine from OneStopMoto, the site is fabulous, http://www.onestopmoto.com , they have the

PROGRESSIVE SUSPENSION 440 Series I.A.S. Shocks - FLH/FLT (All) [06-09]
12" Heavy Duty (Black) - P/N 440-4058B
Current price $ 456.95 plus shipping

Note: 1) The 440-4058B/C and the 440-4060B/C part numbers listed above are newly designed in 2009 for all Touring Models 2006-2009.  Purchasing the older design (old part numbers) will result in potential tire-fender rubbing and other interference.
2) Heavy Duty Shocks are recommended for bikes that are operated at or near the manufacturer’s maximum load rating over 50% of the time.

The ride improvement on my Ultra was significant, and despite being lower the comfort was almost as stock.

Ride safely,
Louis

[Highjagger]

@ Louis :
THXS , great side-link .
 Do you often ride such ( heavy)-loaded ?
Do you have to change or modify something because of the lowering ?
I think of trying the 11.5" heavyduty , do you think this 0.5" lowering will cause any problems or changes in handling ?
Do you replace yours on your own or at the dealer ?
They do not offer the shipping to germany , what did you pay ( if they do ) ?

[Gone Fishin']

@ Louis :
THXS , great side-link .
 Do you often ride such ( heavy)-loaded ?
On the E-Glide more often than on the other bikes.
Do you have to change or modify something because of the lowering ?
No. Just change the shocks.
I think of trying the 11.5" heavyduty , do you think this 0.5" lowering will cause any problems or changes in handling ?
I cant think of any reason, it worked on my '09 SEUC, and the '09 SERG should be similar ...
Do you replace yours on your own or at the dealer ?
The dealer replaced it, it only take five minutes. I guess you could do it on your own as well.
They do not offer the shipping to germany , what did you pay ( if they do ) ?
They did ship to Germany, it was about $65. They need a U.S. credit card, however. If they can't do that for you, maybe you should pm hd-dude on this site.

[Highjagger]

@ Louis :
 Do you have to change the oil in the progressives ?

[Gone Fishin']

@ Louis :
 Do you have to change the oil in the progressives ?

Not that I know of.

Ride safely,
Louis