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[GregKhougaz]

          2023 CVO ROAD GLIDE

[GregKhougaz]

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[GregKhougaz]

          $49 & $43K.

[mjb765]

$6k more for the two tone paint!!!!

[OBB]

$6k more for the two tone paint!!!!

Just saw that. Gunslinger must be doing that paint again

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[acevtwin]

I take the blame for the upcharge on the paint. After I bought my '22 Wicked Orange Pearl with the $3K upcharge, the Motor company
sent me a survey to see how I felt about paying extra for Premium Gun Slingers paint. I said I was ok with it.

[Fired00d]

Review from one of the riders in the introduction video by Harley (he's a former motor officer for NYPD)....

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[OBB]

Review from one of the riders in the introduction video by Harley (he's a former motor officer for NYPD)....

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Anytime I see "please subscribe" in the description of a video or at the beginning of it, I'm done. I'll hold off listening to a paid talking head and wait for an unbiased evaluation.

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[GregKhougaz]

          Here you go:

         

[GregKhougaz]

          And:

[SHRADER]

Why in the wide, wide world of sports did them idiots alter the friggin lines of the gas tank to put in the angles. I mean holy smokes, every big twin tank since 1936 has been smooth flowing teardrop in shape.

Are they trying to copy the Challenger now.

[GregKhougaz]

          So, can't help but wonder how one would feel if you'd recently plunked $60K or so on the 2023 CVO™ Road Glide Limited. 

[SHRADER]

I believe I’m done with CVOs
Had 3 still got 2 but no more

[blacktop]

          So, can't help but wonder how one would feel if you'd recently plunked $60K or so on the 2023 CVO™ Road Glide Limited. 

I was wondering the same! I would be royally pi..ed off. Holy smokes inside of 1 year you have a brand new bike, the envy of everyone and in the same year it's old technology and out of date.

[mjb765]

I was wondering the same! I would be royally pi..ed off. Holy smokes inside of 1 year you have a brand new bike, the envy of everyone and in the same year it's old technology and out of date.

Or to look at it a different way......you may not like the new one and are happy to get the last of that style.........not to mention who wants the first year of the new motor??? Or considering how many years it took to get the firmware correct on the Boom GTS (if it ever will be) what are the bugs going to be with an entire digital dash??

[kojak]

With Harley, you are always taking that risk. I remember buying the 2017 cvo when the 114 was an cvo exclusive and the very next year, they put that motor in every touring bike and bumped the CI to 117, lol! But I agree, they should have badged these bikes as early 2024 models.

[Hondo2doc]

Well I'm sure I'll be in the minority here. But I absolutely love them. I think both RG and SG are badass looking.
 Personally I'm glad they took the round bubble out things and added some creases and dimension for lack of a better word. So to me the new styling rocks. I do wish they offered one or two more colors choices. And I don't like that 6k up charge for the Orange.

Now all the added stuff I think is awesome two. 139 ft lb of torque right off the showroom floor is pretty damn good I think. Inverted front end. With substantial improved front and rear suspension. Liquid cooled heads, what an amazing job they did hiding the radiator.

And the infotainment Center and the giant screen I just think is amazing and all the variations you have to set it up it's just fantastic. You have ride modes. Yes I'm sure they'll be some connectivity technical glitches here and there. But I think the design the look the style is absolutely awesome.

No, I'm not in the market for a new bike I love my 2021 SESG. But I sure like the future of HD design.

I was also way off on my price prediction. I said MSRP would be 59k. Wow was I wrong. I think the 42k MSRP is very much in line. With last year's prices and current inflation. Yes as stated I don't like the 48k for the Orange.

I hope this turns into good sales for HD.



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[SDCVO]

Well I'm sure I'll be in the minority here. But I absolutely love them. I think both RG and SG are badass looking.
 Personally I'm glad they took the round bubble out things and added some creases and dimension for lack of a better word. So to me the new styling rocks. I do wish they offered one or two more colors choices. And I don't like that 6k up charge for the Orange.

Now all the added stuff I think is awesome two. 139 ft lb of torque right off the showroom floor is pretty damn good I think. Inverted front end. With substantial improved front and rear suspension. Liquid cooled heads, what an amazing job they did hiding the radiator.

And the infotainment Center and the giant screen I just think is amazing and all the variations you have to set it up it's just fantastic. You have ride modes. Yes I'm sure they'll be some connectivity technical glitches here and there. But I think the design the look the style is absolutely awesome.

No, I'm not in the market for a new bike I love my 2021 SESG. But I sure like the future of HD design.

I was also way off on my price prediction. I said MSRP would be 59k. Wow was I wrong. I think the 42k MSRP is very much in line. With last year's prices and current inflation. Yes as stated I don't like the 48k for the Orange.

I hope this turns into good sales for HD.



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I agree with you that new bikes are awesome! I am thinking they will come up with a 135 stage 4 kit which may tempt me-

[Hondo2doc]

I agree with you that new bikes are awesome! I am thinking they will come up with a 135 stage 4 kit which may tempt me-

Absolutely!!!

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[acevtwin]

Well I'm sure I'll be in the minority here. But I absolutely love them. I think both RG and SG are badass looking.
 Personally I'm glad they took the round bubble out things and added some creases and dimension for lack of a better word. So to me the new styling rocks. I do wish they offered one or two more colors choices. And I don't like that 6k up charge for the Orange.

Now all the added stuff I think is awesome two. 139 ft lb of torque right off the showroom floor is pretty damn good I think. Inverted front end. With substantial improved front and rear suspension. Liquid cooled heads, what an amazing job they did hiding the radiator.

And the infotainment Center and the giant screen I just think is amazing and all the variations you have to set it up it's just fantastic. You have ride modes. Yes I'm sure they'll be some connectivity technical glitches here and there. But I think the design the look the style is absolutely awesome.


No, I'm not in the market for a new bike I love my 2021 SESG. But I sure like the future of HD design.

I was also way off on my price prediction. I said MSRP would be 59k. Wow was I wrong. I think the 42k MSRP is very much in line. With last year's prices and current inflation. Yes as stated I don't like the 48k for the Orange.

I hope this turns into good sales for HD.



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You're Not in the Minority. I Really like them. I LOVE my 2022 Wicked Orange Pearl Roadglide, and I'm still considering getting the "New Style" , or as I think they will come to be referred to
as the "2023 1/2's"   

[Hondo2doc]

You're Not in the Minority. I Really like them. I LOVE my 2022 Wicked Orange Pearl Roadglide, and I'm still considering getting the "New Style" , or as I think they will come to be referred to
as the "2023 1/2's"

Lmao @ 2023 1/2.....I agree "

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[RivRaptor]

There is no way with fee's, tax, license & markup that these bikes are gonna leave the stealerships for less than 70K around here and God forbid you finance and add extras!  Hard pass!  Don't get me wrong I was gonna sell my bike and get a new one because I was sick of my piss poor suspension and lack of decent passing power and I have become tired of the build a bike approach that many of us have settled into and figured that the new one would be just right and not need any power or handling work.  Well looks like they may have achieved that but then they took forever to bring this bike to market and then add in tight supplies with some sticker shock, that now seems to be the new CVO motto, well then, should I reward HD after selling me a very expensive bike that is lacking and needing in so many areas?  No, I'm done, I'll keep working on the one I have already.  The first year VVT motor scares me  anyway!  I wish them luck.  O.K. not really!

[Ironhorse]

No, I'm done, I'll keep working on the one I have already.

Agreed.  My "antique" 2006 CVO Ultra is all the HD I need.  If I long for more power and better suspension I'll ride my GoldWing.  Others have gone BMW and Indian.  I'm sure there will be buyers for the new bikes, I just won't be one of them.  As for the new VVT engine, well I'd like to see them go 75k without having to be opened up. The issues with the previous CVO 110s, the sumping M8s have all left me with a dubious wait and see approach.

[Steve_G]

Pretty significant improvements.  Not sure about the new tank shape.
I wonder if the limiteds will be able to get by with just the little radiator in the front?

[FLSTFI Dave]

I am impressed with many of the changes.  I think they look very good, the gray one is a bit plain for the paint. The overall lines of the bike look great in pictures and Video. 6K is to much for the Whiskey color, 3K more reasonable.

Wish the rear would have got more travel, 50% increase is not much when you had 2 inches to begin with,  front should have been 4" not 3".  That said inverted forks are an improvement as are the radial brakes. Sounds like the rear shocks are an improvement.  Water cooled should be a help,  VVT sure brings up the torque.  Ride modes are nice, love the looks of the new infotainment system.  Switches and starting are very similar to my Pan America. 

I have had a refundable deposit on a CVO Road Glide for a while now.  Second in line.  Never been charged over MSRP for a CVO from them.  Really depends on what they will give for my high mileage 19 Red Pepper.  Honestly did not think I would consider another CVO, but this has me intrigued. 

[mjb765]

Got a call today from a salesman at the dealer in Va that I bought my '18 SERG from last year wanting to know if I wanted to upgrade to the new CVO. When we discussed the color options, and of course, the cost of the Whiskey option being way too much he told me that is what he has been hearing from a lot of people. They must be worried if they have to call someone that bouhgt a bike last year to see if I wanted to upgrade already.......or maybe they think I will love the new one so much that price won't matter.

[Hondo2doc]

Got a call today from a salesman at the dealer in Va that I bought my '18 SERG from last year wanting to know if I wanted to upgrade to the new CVO. When we discussed the color options, and of course, the cost of the Whiskey option being way too much he told me that is what he has been hearing from a lot of people. They must be worried if they have to call someone that bouhgt a bike last year to see if I wanted to upgrade already.......or maybe they think I will love the new one so much that price won't matter.

I agree. Harley is saying that the orange (whiskey neat) is a 6 thousand dollar better paint job than the silver. I just can't see it. Are they saying double, triple or even quadruple the labor costs for the orange? Or the same question about the materials needed for the orange? Oh well we'll see if they sell.

A good friend stopped at one of our local dealers on Sunday and asked a salesman if they were gonna sell the 2023 at MSRP and the salesman said oh no not at all. These are "premium motorcycles" and there will be a limited distribution. We will only get 6 or 7. According to the salesman this dealer had 7 people that already put a refundable deposit down.

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[mjb765]

I agree. Harley is saying that the orange (whiskey neat) is a 6 thousand dollar better paint job than the silver. I just can't see it. Are they saying double, triple or even quadruple the labor costs for the orange? Or the same question about the materials needed for the orange? Oh well we'll see if they sell.

A good friend stopped at one of our local dealers on Sunday and asked a salesman if they were gonna sell the 2023 at MSRP and the salesman said oh no not at all. These are "premium motorcycles" and there will be a limited distribution. We will only get 6 or 7. According to the salesman this dealer had 7 people that already put a refundable deposit down.

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Then those people don't do any research. When I lived on Long Island I bought my CVO's from dealers in Conneticut since the LI dealers always tried to sell way over MSRP. My local dealer did all my warranty work (if any) since I knew the service staff for years, but the sales dept knew I wanted to pay MSRP so I wouldn't buy a bike there. They were counting on people coming in and saying "oh how pretty, I'll take it" without even asking the price. The dealer closed just over 2 years ago so there must not have been enough of those people.....

[Hondo2doc]

Then those people don't do any research. When I lived on Long Island I bought my CVO's from dealers in Conneticut since the LI dealers always tried to sell way over MSRP. My local dealer did all my warranty work (if any) since I knew the service staff for years, but the sales dept knew I wanted to pay MSRP so I wouldn't buy a bike there. They were counting on people coming in and saying "oh how pretty, I'll take it" without even asking the price. The dealer closed just over 2 years ago so there must not have been enough of those people.....

Exactly!!!!!!

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[Landshark]

I can only say, good luck HD. I still am absent stunned that Harley would want to charge $6,000 extra for the optional paint. I won’t be a player.

[FLSTFI Dave]

In have been told only 25% of the 2023 CVO's will be the Whiskey color.  This comes from sales manager.  He was told to order those early for customers that want that color.

[blown alcohol]

what kind of productions numbers for the road glide platinum? Will dealers be limited on the number they receive?
I would like to talk to 2 of the dealers near me. If the production will be low I will not waste my time as they are an easy sale at these 2 dealers.

[FLSTFI Dave]

what kind of productions numbers for the road glide platinum? Will dealers be limited on the number they receive?
I would like to talk to 2 of the dealers near me. If the production will be low I will not waste my time as they are an easy sale at these 2 dealers.

  That is anyones guess.  Only half a year of production.

[kojak]

what kind of productions numbers for the road glide platinum? Will dealers be limited on the number they receive?
I would like to talk to 2 of the dealers near me. If the production will be low I will not waste my time as they are an easy sale at these 2 dealers.

There is one for sale at Yorkhd.com

[Hondo2doc]

I was fortunate enough today to go see the 2023 CVO Road Glide in the silver/platinum. I have to say that in person it's an amazing looking bike it is absolutely awesome I love the lines I love the look I love everything about it. It was at Treasure Coast Harley. The one salesperson I spoke to only say they wanted mid to upper 40s. I assume they would give me a hard number if I told him I was serious but I'm not in the market I'm very happy with my 2021.

I would assume Harley-Davidson like many businesses today put together a focus group of what the public would accept and not accept. And I guess their research found that the public would be okay with an upcharge for certain CVO paint even a $6,000 up charge for certain CVO paint I guess is the only reason they consider doing it. I am looking forward to seeing that whiskey neat in person but I don't know if it would ever be worth 6K to me.

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[blown alcohol]

  That is anyones guess.  Only half a year of production.

I stopped by a somewhat local dealer to me. I was told they had sold 8 (all ordered are orange) on order. They are not a high volume dealer. They have had the road king in hi fi orange for weeks. He even made the comment that he can not believe no one has been interested. Hard to believe they are 8 people that walked in and all ordered the cvo in orange. He said they were all sold, but the platinum coming this Tuesday is not.

Anyway, they are receiving a cvo road glide in platinum on Tuesday. I said great, lets walk out and look at my bike. Give me a trade in price, and I can put down a deposit. He said he could not give a trade in price. I had to wait until Tuesday 7/25 when the road glide was on the floor.. I said are you serious? Tuesday is your next business day you are open. He said the market is so volatile right now. I do not think the trade in price will change much in 3 days. He said I can only guess your trade in will be worth $10k - $15k. He would not give me a price. I even said if I was to scratch or drop it I understand I would not get the quoted amount. I even said I would not hold him to the exact amount to just give me a closer number to better calculate what I need.
Im done with that dealer. Their is only one other msrp dealer that is close to me, and family owned I will talk to.