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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1320 on: December 03, 2011, 09:41:49 PM »

A friend of mine brought up a good thought about the Federal concealed carry rules. If the government gets to choose how a Federal carry permit is issued, how long will it take them to start regulating the permits. They can change the permit requirements/laws and start to have too much control, which will lead to them taking away our ability to carry and possibly our handguns.  Especially since Obama and others want more gun control anyway.  This may be their way to get it.    Hope I'm wrong, as it would make carrying state to state a lot easier, especially when on a long bike trip.
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1321 on: December 03, 2011, 09:44:26 PM »

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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1322 on: December 03, 2011, 11:06:45 PM »

Santa  :santa: came early for me today  :huepfenjump3: I purchased the Kimber CDP Ultra ll 45.  This is one sweet  :pepper: pistol.  Hope to feed it a few rounds soon  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1323 on: December 04, 2011, 11:05:09 AM »

AMANAL, you keep shooting those plus p+ in that airweight your going to be sorry. To hot of a load for that light of frame.

I was advised the same thing, as I carry virtually the same gun.  I just load rounds that are capable of inflicting the most damage, but not +P.
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1324 on: December 04, 2011, 11:54:55 AM »

There is a law in effect called "Peaceable Journey." Basically it says you may pass through a state in which your firearm is not legal IF your firearm is legal at your destination and your departure. Basically it needs to be unloaded and locked-up out of "quick access." (Locked saddlebag would qualify.)

The other condition for "Peaceable Journey" is that you may not stop in the state in which the firearm is banned. "Stop" seems to mean "overnight stay" although there's some considerable speculation that stopping for "sight-seeing" also qualifies as a "stop." Evidently you may stop for meals and gas . . . The "move along" clause I suppose. :D

Unfortunately, "Peaceable Journey" is a FEDERAL law and states like to argue "states rights." The issue is far from settled.

That said, and having skimmed across the 89 odd pages of posting here, let me submit this caveat about "unlawful possession of a firearm."

If you're in unlawful possession of a firearm and the Prosecuting Atty. in the jurisdiction in question decides to play hardball, you're going to face more than simply being cited for having a gun:

A Prosecutor will fill a "multiple pleading" which specifies several and all the laws having an unlawful firearm exposes you to. 

Besides "possession" and for starters they'll go for "interstate transport." Then they'll trot out "operating a motor vehicle while in unlawful possession." Or "unlawful possession in a motor vehicle." They'll have you blow in the tube for a BAC, and pee in the cup for a urine specimen. If either come up positive -- and alcohol will show up in a urine specimen some 48 hrs after last consumption -- the Prosecutor may file "unlawful possess under the influence."

Besides being arrested, there's a good chance the state will seek to confiscate your vehicle -- not impound it, "confiscate" as in you lose possession/title so they can sell it at auction to raise $$$ for new cruisers and uniforms. If your bank owns your bike, this is going to get really complicated. The bank may file for default on your finance plan.

You'll absolutely lose the firearm.

Bail is going to be steep inasmuch as you're out of state and a potential "flight risk."   

There's a catalog of charges they can go after depending how you're carrying this firearm. They range from "brandishing" and "unlawful concealment" to "concealment with intent," "premeditation," and if you're with someone else they may go for "conspiring to."

Lots of states -- by the way -- have similar laws about knives, their possession, concealment.

Depending upon jurisdiction and how you comb your hair, unlawful possession opens the door to a flood of legal charges, both expensive and complicated and potentially exposing you to being forever barred from owning a firearm.

In light of the Second Amendment and "shall not be infringed" it stinks. But the basis for "gun control" in the USA is founded upon "interstate commerce." That's a fancy legal way for lawyers and politicians to say, "We got lines, and you'd better not cross them."

 
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1325 on: December 04, 2011, 01:08:07 PM »

Santa  :santa: came early for me today  :huepfenjump3: I purchased the Kimber CDP Ultra ll 45.  This is one sweet  :pepper: pistol.  Hope to feed it a few rounds soon  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1326 on: December 04, 2011, 02:00:44 PM »

ok This is my Christmas present.  Kimber CDP Ultra ll 45  :pepper:
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1327 on: December 04, 2011, 02:01:49 PM »

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« Reply #1328 on: December 04, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »

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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1329 on: December 04, 2011, 02:04:00 PM »

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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1330 on: December 04, 2011, 02:05:58 PM »

Nice heater! Love it! Sorry about this worthless in the other post but you've been here long enough to know it was coming just a matter of time!
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1331 on: December 04, 2011, 02:14:52 PM »

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Nice features on a good carry package.  Extra mags in additon to a few holsters and a quanity of both range & carry ammo some cleaning materials and you're all set until Festivus.  :D har.  :drink: spyder
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Re: Do you carry?
« Reply #1332 on: December 04, 2011, 02:34:51 PM »

Nice heater! Love it! Sorry about this worthless in the other post but you've been here long enough to know it was coming just a matter of time!

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« Reply #1333 on: December 04, 2011, 03:16:09 PM »

ok This is my Christmas present.  Kimber CDP Ultra ll 45  :pepper:

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« Reply #1334 on: December 04, 2011, 06:04:00 PM »


I'm getting about ready for a new leather jacket (outgrowing the old standby), there are several prominent "concealed carry motorcycle jackets" on the market now.....

anyone here have one ? any recommendations ?
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