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CVO Technical => Drive Train => Topic started by: Our Kings Harley on September 03, 2018, 09:52:47 PM

Title: Going into neutral....
Post by: Our Kings Harley on September 03, 2018, 09:52:47 PM
04 Electra Glide 103 CVO  115000 miles...
Almost impossible to get to Neutral while running...Thought maybe fluid might be low or something, yeah not an expert. Anyway, wasn't low but it was dirty. I flushed it, pushed bled it and it feels the same...
Oh and all my goggles and youtubes point to Dot 4 but my reservoir covers say Dot 5 am I ok with Dot 5?
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: hd-dude on September 03, 2018, 11:09:49 PM
04's used DOT 5, switch DOT 4 in 05. Does the bike want to walk forward when at idle in gear with the clutch in?
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: grc on September 04, 2018, 08:54:06 AM

If the clutch is dragging (not releasing completely) it will be difficult to find neutral and you will likely also have a heavy clunk when going into first gear.  Getting ALL the air out of the hydraulic system is critical, and that is much harder with DOT 5 fluid due to the nature of silicone based brake fluids.  Any agitation of the fluid during the fill process can and will trap air that is very slow to migrate and separate so it can be bled out.  You may need to bleed the system several times with a rest period between each attempt.  If you have access to a pressure bleeder that may be a better option, pumping the lever to do it the old fashioned way often just makes things worse.

There is a simple test to determine if the clutch has sufficient travel of the release rod and pressure plate to fully release the clutch.  If you don't have access to the correct tools, any dealership or good indy shop should be able to help.

Jerry

Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: Chains on September 04, 2018, 02:21:22 PM
Adjust the clutch per the book and see how it works, should be a breeze.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: Twolanerider on September 04, 2018, 07:26:38 PM
Adjust the clutch per the book and see how it works, should be a breeze.


04 SEEG had hydraulic clutch.  No adjustment.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: chaos901 on September 05, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
Too much fluid in the primary.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: stuart1270 on February 01, 2020, 04:16:01 PM
04 Electra Glide 103 CVO  115000 miles...
Almost impossible to get to Neutral while running...Thought maybe fluid might be low or something, yeah not an expert. Anyway, wasn't low but it was dirty. I flushed it, pushed bled it and it feels the same...
Oh and all my goggles and youtubes point to Dot 4 but my reservoir covers say Dot 5 am I ok with Dot 5?
I know it's an old thread however no mentions primary chain tension. That almost always is the problem.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: CVO Couple on February 26, 2020, 08:35:18 AM
Depends if its a clutch release issue or trans shifter issue. both my bikes have different techniques to find neutral easy, Mobil 1 75/140 gear lube has made both bikes shift into neutral easier.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: busarealfast on February 26, 2020, 11:32:23 AM
I noticed the mileage was over 100k. Another possibility is the clutch hub could be so worn the clutch plates are hanging up in the grooves not releasing all the way.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: cockawit on February 27, 2020, 05:14:02 PM
happened to me and it was too much oil in primary. primary was over full due to tranny fluid transfer into the primary. started using gear oil in tranny and problem solved. I only use 80-90 gear oil.
Title: Re: Going into neutral....
Post by: longlast on March 04, 2020, 08:41:15 AM
See it was a couple of years ago,....but just incase you're still there

Did you get it sorted out? 

What was the out come ?

Or did you say the hell with it and sell the bike?