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[pwatson]

Has anyone  left the pistons stock and sent the heads out to be ported and serfaced for higher compression on a 110

[ob1]

Had heads ported and milled .060, andrews 54 cams, 2-1 pipe,sert, and 4.9 injectors added to 07 SEUC. 110 and 113 after dyno.

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

That is a very common method.
Scott

[sadunbar]

Has anyone  left the pistons stock and sent the heads out to be ported and serfaced for higher compression on a 110

yes...  

Sent you a pm...

[SilveRT8]

That's what my Mechanic will do when I get my new '12 SE Ultra in one month.
He will clean the ports and mill the heads to get around 10:1 compression, along with Fullsac X headpipe, SE Fatshotz mufflers, Woods TW5 cam and tune.
I will first drive the bike stock for 600 miles, Dyno, do the mods and Dyno again for a before and after comparo.
My goal is for max torque with good HP.
Claude

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

It ought to run well.
Scott

[pwatson]

where is the best place to send the heads to and what cams

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Contact the owner of www.grandlight.com, and get his take on where to send the heads, and what cam he is running.
Scott

[Twolanerider]

Contact the owner of www.grandlight.com, and get his take on where to send the heads, and what cam he is running.
Scott

Curious citation there.  Why is the owner of a light bulb company now the go to source for recommendations on engine work?

[sleepybare]

  You can get your heads reworked at DME in Ventura, California. They do some of the best work in the area.  You can also get your cams from them and should you talk to Dave, he will be happy to make recommendations on which cam he feels is best to use with the reworked heads....Not a cheap deal but nothing is these  days

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Curious citation there.  Why is the owner of a light bulb company now the go to source for recommendations on engine work?

Not quite sure he is the "go to" source.
He does run one of our combinations, and alerted us to feel free to have anyone contact him in regards.
Scott

[Unbalanced]

Curious citation there.  Why is the owner of a light bulb company now the go to source for recommendations on engine work?

Don,

Very coy, for a sec I thought you may have missed the trolling guised as a referral, but then the cynisism came through..      

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

Unbalanced ..


 

[Unbalanced]

GMR are you referring to this one?

[Twolanerider]

Not quite sure he is the "go to" source.
He does run one of our combinations, and alerted us to feel free to have anyone contact him in regards.
Scott

So all happy customers, whether or not they understand with any degree of insight why they are happy, are now sources offered and suggested for others to base their own decisions on.  That's pretty f*^%#g lame. 

Pitch your work and explain why its good.  If that's not enough you really think what a light bulb guy says should make the difference?  Really?

Around here there are other non-motorcycle professionals whose insights we know to be worth heed.  Guys who have proved over time and repetitively they're worth a listen.  I'm sorry, but some light bulb guy who wrote a vendor a check hasn't yet earned that distinction.

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Don,

Very coy, for a sec I thought you may have missed the trolling guised as a referral, but then the cynisism came through..      

Otherwise known as 1711Tab...................king of the canyon-crashers................that has been removed from most all message boards except here............

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

So all happy customers, whether or not they understand with any degree of insight why they are happy, are now sources offered and suggested for others to base their own decisions on.  That's pretty f*^%#g lame. 

Pitch your work and explain why its good.  If that's not enough you really think what a light bulb guy says should make the difference?  Really?

Around here there are other non-motorcycle professionals whose insights we know to be worth heed.  Guys who have proved over time and repetitively they're worth a listen.  I'm sorry, but some light bulb guy who wrote a vendor a check hasn't yet earned that distinction.

Goodness gracious..............did we wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning??

[Twolanerider]

Goodness gracious..............did we wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning??

Don't have a wrong side of the bed.  Also don't have shill light bulb guy that's supposed to sound impressive until the crowd actually thinks twice.  I could rent one though.  But, oh, wait; using Barnum and Bailey tactics on what is treated as mostly a potential client base would be wrong... 

So of course I'd never....

Ah, screw it.  Moderators should pay as much attention to the vendors parading as friends as they do to the actual friends when they can't get along.  At least the latter isn't looking to get in your pocket.

[Shovelhead]

Curious citation there.  Why is the owner of a light bulb company now the go to source for recommendations on engine work?

A person's business and being a happy customer does not detract from their potential insight-fullness. A motorcycle guru will tell you they are the smartest person on the planet and can build you the best motorcycle to be had, but that means nothing until you speak to some of their customers.

I am not a mechanical engineer or a H-D technician, I am an oil & gas consultant, I don't know the first thing about design or engineering of a motorcycle transmission or gear-head speak involving one, but I have been riding for 37 years and I can tell you unequivocally that Baker is hands down the very best transmission I have ever run with an American V-twin and I can tell you why.  I used to run Andrews gear-sets  and they far surpassed factory gears. Anyway, a referral from a customer is always good.

[Twolanerider]

 Anyway, a referral from a customer is always good.

It may not be bad.  But a referral is not necessarily "good."  The customer has to have some gravitas to make the referral.  Otherwise there's no way to know whether the person involved is competent in his recommendation or just another guy who would never admit he spent his money poorly and justifies what he's done, even to himself, by lauding his own efforts.  It happens.

A client's praise will also carry more weight, at least with me, when he offers it himself.  When a vendor tries (unsuccessfully) to be subtle and slide in recommendations carrying the perception that they should somehow carry some weight for his own product... well....  that (again, at least to me) diminishes the "client recommendation" and makes it much closer to a paid commercial.

[Shovelhead]

I suppose I would make a determination based upon what the customer says, rather than said vendor's willingness to point out that said customer does not mind being contacted.

I still like "contact one of my customers & judge for yourself" vs. "pick me, choose me, I am the best"

[cvobiker]

Contact the owner of www.grandlight.com, and get his take on where to send the heads, and what cam he is running.
Scott

Scott,
Would've been much easier on you if you would have simply said,,, 'Contact Hillside, or send your heads to Hillside and we will set you up with a good running bike..  

[Unbalanced]

Otherwise known as 1711Tab...................king of the canyon-crashers................that has been removed from most all message boards except here............

Twolane "Don" do you also go by the name 1711Tab looks to me more like another /Swing and a miss       

[Twolanerider]

Twolane "Don" do you also go by the name 1711Tab looks to me more like another /Swing and a miss       

I thought 1711Tab was a 300 year old soda ?

I know it's good though.  Even though I haven't tried it.  The light bulb guy recommends it.

[cahdbiker]

Scott, does porting your heads improve bottom end power or is it really only effective when you get up into the higher RPM range. Just wondering. Again I appreciate all your imput into this site. I have learned alot from your posts. Thanks CAHDBIKER

That is a very common method.
Scott

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Twolane "Don" do you also go by the name 1711Tab looks to me more like another /Swing and a miss       

Hey pally-boy,
If we are swinging and missing so much, why have we been in business for almost 30 years??
You can tag-team me all you please, with you malicious remarks, if that gets your jollys.
Guess that would only be, that your leaving someone else alone..........

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Scott, does porting your heads improve bottom end power or is it really only effective when you get up into the higher RPM range. Just wondering. Again I appreciate all your imput into this site. I have learned alot from your posts. Thanks CAHDBIKER

The port work we perform with the OEM 2.080" intake, enhances from off idle to peak rpm.
The 2.120"er pushes things over to the right some.
They show great improvement from the .100" valve opening, to .650" lift.
Mid-lift numbers are very good as well, as the valve is in that area more than it is anywhere else, and we key on that to amplifiy the cylinder fill rate.
Scott

[Vagabond6542]

So all happy customers, whether or not they understand with any degree of insight why they are happy, are now sources offered and suggested for others to base their own decisions on.  That's pretty f*^%#g lame. 

Pitch your work and explain why its good.  If that's not enough you really think what a light bulb guy says should make the difference?  Really?

Around here there are other non-motorcycle professionals whose insights we know to be worth heed.  Guys who have proved over time and repetitively they're worth a listen.  I'm sorry, but some light bulb guy who wrote a vendor a check hasn't yet earned that distinction.

Twolanerider, Well said. You get my vote.

Vagabond

[grc]

Speaking of lightbulbs, where can I get a good deal on a case of 100 watt incandescents before the clowns in DC force me to use those crappy overrated Chinese CFL's with the mercury (trust me, it won't hurt you) and other hazardous crap inside?


Boy, folks sure seem to be getting pissy lately.  Rather than just rely on random targets of opportunity, how about if we set up a schedule on a calendar page so that each member gets a prescheduled turn in the barrel?  That way we can be sure to tune in on the days when those we don't like for whatever reason are "up".  I'll even offer to go first.

Let's see, so far this month we've run off two relatively new members, then had two guys I always thought were close friends go at it in a thread, and now we have folks lining up to beat up a regular contributor because he offered up a customer as a referral for his business.  WTF? 

btw, if anyone actually takes the word of only one source to decide where he plans to have work done, that person is a fool.  It doesn't matter if that referral comes from a guy in the lightbulb business or the guy who runs the race teams for Harley-Davidson, it's only one guys opinion.  That and $5 will get you a cup of whatever passes for coffee at Starbucks these days. 


Jerry

[smiley1049]

AMEN!

[Twolanerider]

That and $5 will get you a cup of whatever passes for coffee at Starbucks these days. 


Jerry

I hate Starbucks! 

Actually never been there.

Well, once.  Spiderman took me.

But I hate the idea of Starbucks!

Though the muffin wasn't half bad....

Damn Chinese light bulbs!

[porthole]

Starbucks = burnt coffee

[Twolanerider]

Starbucks = burnt coffee

I didn't get the coffee Duane.  Honestly couldn't have figured out how/what to order even if I'd been so inclined.  The place was kind of scary actually.  All professorial and grad school looking crowd.  Even when I was in grad school or playing professor I didn't like most of those people.  Still liked the muffin though....

[porthole]

Did you get her name 

[Twolanerider]

Did you get her name 

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[Elixer]

I used the racing pros and machinist at Eagle HD, Lafayette IN for my port/polish head work on my 110 at the recommendation of my La Dealer who did the engine re-assy work, these on top of SE racing pistons (10.5:1) non-cyl bore & 259E Cams...wanted to "wake it up" but not get radical and very pleased with performance now...post break in mapped @ 117 cu 120 ft lbs. Good low end perf upgrade.

Doing it (at that time) by my dealer, allowed me to maintain warranty to include the perf. upgrade.

[Frank Smith]

Contact the owner of www.grandlight.com, and get his take on where to send the heads, and what cam he is running.
Scott

Branche-O'Keefe or Hildreth Performance are two reputable shops that do excellant headwork.

[Twolanerider]

Branche-O'Keefe or Hildreth Performance are two reputable shops that do excellant headwork.

Can't go wrong with Dave Mackie out on the west coast either.  Absolutely beautiful work, every time, and never any drama. 

[sadunbar]

Can't go wrong with Dave Mackie out on the west coast either.  Absolutely beautiful work, every time, and never any drama. 

 

Dave is always calm, cool, collected, soft spoken...  Answers his own phone and will talk as long as necessary.  Usually tries to talk you out of spending all of your money.  Gives you options and then gives you cheaper options that will provide a similar result.  And always a beautiful result - on time  - every time without issues.

[sherrmann4]

I had mine done at Automotive Machine & Supply.

Check them out.  www.automotivemachine.com/

Just another option out there.  Hope that helps.

[pwatson]

At .60 off the head what does the compresion #go up to?

[HD Street Performance]

Of course you meant .060
About 10.2/1 assuming piston down .005 and .030 gasket on a 110
Use pistons don't cut the head that much

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

S/E T/C heads are 3.690", as are Evo S/E heads.
Minus .060" right from the Moco.

[HD Street Performance]

Scotty, the OP said:
"Has anyone  left the pistons stock and sent the heads out to be ported and serfaced for higher compression on a 110"
No reference to the SE performance head

[pwatson]

Scotty
if i changed out the pistons what would you use?
if i sent you the heads what would you do to them?
and what cam would you use?
what else would you do if it was yours while it is apart?
it is a 2008 cvo road king 110,f/p stepped true duels, open air cleaner and pcv with autotune.It has 251 cams in now
What about injectors and tb?

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

PM sent.
Scott

[timtoolman]

Hi;;side will make you some serious hp/trq and their customer service is 2nd to none  i spank many 110 's with my 107 with their stg 4 heads heh heh heh heh

[cvobiker]

Hi;;side will make you some serious hp/trq and their customer service is 2nd to none  i spank many 110 's with my 107 with their stg 4 heads heh heh heh heh

Are you the lightbulb guy. 

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Are you the lightbulb guy. 

The owner of www.grandlight.com has a 110".........
Tim has a 107".......

[cvobiker]

The owner of www.grandlight.com has a 110".........
Tim has a 107".......

Ok,,, just checkin....trying to find out who this light bulb guy is....

[Fired00d]

Ok,,, just checkin....trying to find out who this light bulb guy is....

Here he is...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[cvobiker]

Here he is...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Finally,, At Last,   The light bulb guy surfaces..   

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Where is he??
I cannot see him from here, as he is overshadowed with sarcastic innuendo..................

[North Georgia Hawg]

Where is he??
I cannot see him from here, as he is overshadowed with sarcastic innuendo..................

Par for the course in this place!

[sadunbar]

Par for the course in this place!

Not that there's anything wrong with that!   

[InfernoCVO]

 Anyone use T-man?

[hogasm]

Anyone use T-man?

Yes

[cvobiker]

Where is he??
I cannot see him from here, as he is overshadowed with sarcastic innuendo..................

Well'''' we see him but we cant hear him""" 

[HD Street Performance]

The CVO heads are a very nice piece and with not a lot of work they can exceed the flow demand of most 110 motors. The cam, compression, throttle body and pipe become the devices that set the stage for where the power band lands and how wide and high that is. Torque can be flat as a pancake and high too. Right choice of parts is critical on these 110s. Because of the large flow potential of the head improper choice(s) can lead to a soggy running mess. You will see many brag about flow numbers. Take a look at their averages from .1-.7 and exhaust percentages in that range. Can be a little more accurate predictor of the outcome.

[timtoolman]

why do you need to see the light???

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

why do you need to see the light???

Perhaps darkness is all around................?