Topic: 2013 110th Anniversary CVO's (Read 21009 times)

15CVOSG · « **on:** February 07, 2012, 03:51:06 PM »

anyone have any idea's as to what may be in store for the 13' CVO's...you think a larger 120 motor...or water cooled engine...post your thoughts...thx

LovemyCVOgirl · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2012, 03:56:43 PM »

IMO they will not be releasing either one of these in 2013. The 120 is still in the research stage before release and if they go to a water cooled engine I would presume it would be fabricated for the 120 due to the heat that scooter will produce. Just my 2 cents worth

mark · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2012, 06:17:49 PM »

Water-cooled = no. 120 engine = possible. JM2C.

NorEaster · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2012, 02:31:05 PM »

I have no guesses as to what the 2013 engines will be.

However, last year when I was wondering if they would once again be offering a SESG in 2012, the earliest proof came from the California Air Resources Board. Which requires any manufacture of a vehicle being sold in that state to provide information about that vehicle 30 days prior to it being offered for sale. So on June 3, 2011, the information for which CVO models, and what size engine they would have, for the 2012 model year became public knowledge. At least for the public that knew where to look.

So I would expect the very first indications as to what models, and what motors will be in those models, will come from that source, around the same time again this year. Below is the link to the document for the 2012 models that showed what Harley was going to be offering weeks before Harley officially announced their intentions at their dealer meeting. Got to love the Internet.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2012/harleydavidson_m0050177_1688-1802_0d5_hn.pdf

NorEaster · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »

Just checked the California Air Resources Board's website and nothing is listed yet for any 2013 models. But if you keep checking back at the below link, you should start to see the different documents appear as the release dates for the new models start to get closer.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2013/2013.php

While Harley has a tight grip on their employees and dealers that keeps them from spilling the beans about new bikes that are coming, they clearly have no sway over California's ARB.

15CVOSG · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:33:50 PM »

Quote from: NorEaster on February 08, 2012, 02:48:00 PM

Just checked the California Air Resources Board's website and nothing is listed yet for any 2013 models. But if you keep checking back at the below link, you should start to see the different documents appear as the release dates for the new models start to get closer.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2013/2013.php

While Harley has a tight grip on their employees and dealers that keeps them from spilling the beans about new bikes that are coming, they clearly have no sway over California's ARB.

this is good to know...really appreciate the info posted above...will keep checking on it ....thx again...

tazmun · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2012, 11:27:17 AM »

"While Harley has a tight grip on their employees and dealers that keeps them from spilling the beans about new bikes that are coming, they clearly have no sway over California's ARB."

I'm thinking the tight grip will be gone soon. When they decided to eliminate all the
full time employees, for temporary ones, I think the loyalty factor may have gone out
the back door with all those who may lose there jobs! Just saying!

Taz

Jim Kennedy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2012, 01:19:51 PM »

Have to kind of wondering if there will be ANY significant changes to motors and stuff for 2013.

Could be wrong [I usually am] - but I think in the past they have had very few challenges selling any and all "Anniversary Models" in an Anniversary year.

Why would they make any huge changes if they are going to sell every model they make anyway....

Seems to make more sense to me if they waited till the year after to introduce major innovations.

Just sayin'.....

Fast FLHX · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2012, 12:28:48 PM »

New paint

/thread

2harleys · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2012, 01:56:28 PM »

Higher price tag

Midnight Rider · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2012, 02:08:05 PM »

Twolanerider · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2012, 02:12:54 PM »

Quote from: Midnight Rider on February 10, 2012, 02:08:05 PM

Servicar

Oh yeah, SE Servicar

.

Puzzled · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2012, 02:30:05 PM »

Nice Servicar.

A SE tri glide would be interesting.

The higher price tag is a given.

Water cooled will eventually make its way into the lineup.

Midnight Rider · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2012, 02:51:52 PM »

Quote from: Twolanerider on February 10, 2012, 02:12:54 PM

Oh yeah, SE Servicar .

One thing great about the Servicar is you could have one kiss-ass stereo system...

Or, you could sell ice cream in the summer...

firefighter156 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:08:04 PM »

Quote from: Jim Kennedy on February 09, 2012, 01:19:51 PM

Have to kind of wondering if there will be ANY significant changes to motors and stuff for 2013.

Could be wrong [I usually am] - but I think in the past they have had very few challenges selling any and all "Anniversary Models" in an Anniversary year.

Why would they make any huge changes if they are going to sell every model they make anyway....

Seems to make more sense to me if they waited till the year after to introduce major innovations.

Just sayin'.....

Ditto!! That's it. Jim nailed it.

dayne66 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2012, 06:28:09 PM »

A SE Trike would have a price of $50000+....after getting consumers over the initial shock, the MOCO could creep up the rest of the CVO line's price.

FLTRXSE2012 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:41:16 PM »

I was talking to a Sceaming Eagle engineer at a dealership seminar and he said they were already working on a steet tuned 120cc motor for a production

bike.Thats all I could squeeze from him.

tequillaCVO2010 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2012, 11:54:32 AM »

I'd love to see the street tuned 120 motor on the 2013 CVO Street Glide! I'd have to break down and get one!

bbrown · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2012, 12:09:32 PM »

Quote from: dayne66 on February 10, 2012, 06:28:09 PM

A SE Trike would have a price of $50000+....after getting consumers over the initial shock, the MOCO could creep up the rest of the CVO line's price.

well said

cvobiker · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2012, 01:04:24 PM »

Quote from: 11CVOSG on February 07, 2012, 03:51:06 PM

anyone have any idea's as to what may be in store for the 13' CVO's...you think a larger 120 motor...or water cooled engine...post your thoughts...thx

A water cooled Harley for the touring class will happen, but when?? Only Mother Harley knows.. With the EPA regulations getting tougher each year, my guess something will pop next year, because year 2013 is the new deadline for all manufacturers to abide by new much tougher EPA regulations.. Last year (maybe the year before

) Harley filed a Patent for a new Water-Cooled Head. This topic has been discussed here on several posts and the attached web page is a saved Bookmark from one of those discussions. www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/06/21/harley-davidson-water-cooled-heads-patent

IMO - Harley will adapt to this either next year or 2014.. Although - I'm really curious what Mother Harley has up their sleeves for the non- touring models, maybe the Revolution motors ?

Grizzly · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2012, 04:14:39 PM »

I don't think we'll see anything new or too exciting in 2013 becasue the MoCo will most likely be pumping up the sales hype on the 110th Anniversary.

It will be in 2014 that we see new stuff to keep the sales going. But I wouldn't count on water cooled anytime soon, if ever.

JMHO

motor1 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2012, 10:00:03 PM »

Couldn't agree with Grizzly more HD can hype the 110 Anniversary ( basically paint and emblems), and upgrades/changes for the next year.

bbrown · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2012, 09:29:22 AM »

Sure would like to see a SETRIKE

redbeard719 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 14, 2012, 04:37:37 PM »

Flame suit on....check.

I'd like to see a SE Sportster. While it's not gonna be near the likes of any other current SE bike, I think MoCo could do some good things to it, and younger buyers would jump all over it.

charles05663 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2012, 05:00:59 PM »

Quote from: motor1 on February 12, 2012, 10:00:03 PM

Couldn't agree with Grizzly more HD can hype the 110 Anniversary ( basically paint and emblems), and upgrades/changes for the next year.

It is really sad when 20% of the bikes HD produces are "anniversary" models (eg. every 5 years they have an "anniversary"). It really makes the bikes special.

YELLOWBIRD · « **Reply #25 on:** February 14, 2012, 07:33:32 PM »

Quote from: fish eye on February 14, 2012, 04:37:37 PM

Flame suit on....check.

I'd like to see a SE Sportster. While it's not gonna be near the likes of any other current SE bike, I think MoCo could do some good things to it, and younger buyers would jump all over it.

X2

Only problem is that it would have a retail price of $1799.00!!!

I said it before, I still think they will come out with a Screaming Eagle CVO Trike.
Maybe not this year, but it's coming.

Ride Safe,

YB

NorEaster · « **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2012, 06:28:59 AM »

A CVO Trike with the 120 motor and wheelie bars. And only offer the 120 motor in the trike that year, then the following year put in the rest of the CVOs.

funbiker1967 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:47:46 AM »

Any one have any insight on the 2013 Touring CVO yet? Power Plant that will move it?? We are not that far away now.... The 120 would be awesome for pulling the camper!! Liquid cooled would be awesome for the grind through the big cities. I keep hearing about a liquid cooled head??

grandpadoc · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:26:13 AM »

I think wet motors are moving in soon. I'm not sure if water or oil, but they are into oil on the Sportster already. Has anyone ridden a wet Sporster to see if it runs any cooler ?? Doc

http://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2010_Harley-Davidson_XR1200_Precision_Oil_Cooling

Sea Biscuit · « **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:42:19 AM »

As Clint Eastwood would say, "Do you feel lucky, punk"?!

The Anniversary models are usually more hype than substance...imho, I think we will see more changes in 2014 than 2013.

But let's say for argument sake, that Harley does do something for 2013 (113", 120", oil/water cooled etc.)...do you really want to be the "beta" tester for Harley?

We all know there were "issues" in the first 2 years of the introduction of the 110" engine and for the most part those issues were solved 2 years later in 2009...do you really think with the latest round of layoffs, bad economy, cost cutting "efficiencies" etc. that the first run of these new engines/changes will be trouble free? Maybe...maybe not...but I've learned through experience that being a "first adopter" is not always the best choice.

Just something to think about...your nickel, your call.

Now come on Spring and where the heck is my new bike...I've been waiting since August 2011 on my new "Skunk"!!!

grandpadoc · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2012, 10:53:53 AM »

With all the added plumbing on a wet motor I'd hate to be a beta tester, but when you think about it the whole CVO thing is just a big beta test anyway. I've alway been paid to be a beta tester by my vendors though. Doc

Sea Biscuit · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2012, 11:00:29 AM »

Quote from: grandpadoc on February 25, 2012, 10:53:53 AM

I've alway been paid to be a beta tester by my vendors though. Doc

Well, that's a great "gig" if you can get that, but we all know that Harley is NOT going to do that...you pay them!

grandpadoc · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2012, 11:08:12 AM »

...and pay, and pay, and wait, and pay while your waiting. Does your ambient temperature gauge still read 110 on a 60 degree day, stators that last about a year even on the new bikes, and on an on.

Pod · « **Reply #33 on:** February 27, 2012, 11:45:30 AM »

Thanks for the CA link on this chat, will help in my 2013 purchase plans.

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