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CVO Technical => Electronic Toys and Gadgets => Topic started by: FLHTCUSE7 on September 20, 2013, 11:34:06 AM

Title: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: FLHTCUSE7 on September 20, 2013, 11:34:06 AM
I am awaiting my CVO Limited in a few weeks and want to make sure I have all the items for it ready when it gets here, to finish her up and ride a few thousand miles prior to snow here.

One item I want to make as neat as possible is the power installation for my heated gear.

Has anyone installed the Gerbing permanent dual controller?

Any pictures?

Also, any issues with it from a reliability standpoint?
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: msemersky on September 20, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
I've had mine on my 2011 Street Glide for a few years without any issues.  Very happy I did it.  I'll shoot a picture for you when I'm home later tonight.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: FLHTCUSE7 on September 20, 2013, 12:22:27 PM
That would be great. 

Thanks.
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Post by: jimcb1 on November 17, 2013, 07:15:09 AM
any pictures yet
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Post by: Ironhorse on November 17, 2013, 07:42:39 AM
Have you considered one of the wireless controllers?
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Post by: 05Train on November 17, 2013, 08:17:52 AM
I'm sick of fiddling with the wired dual controller.  How are you guys mounting the wireless one?
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Post by: Ironhorse on November 17, 2013, 08:40:45 AM
I plan on clipping mine on the pocket of my windshield pouch.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: FLHTCUSE7 on November 17, 2013, 09:54:13 AM
I tried the wired version but now I am using the wireless version and I really like it.

I just clip it to a Velcro strip on my left leg on the Aerostich roadcrafter suit for the HD.

When I get the BMW I plan on just clip it to the windshield.

I bough the belt pouch for the controller and it has a clip on it.
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Post by: 05Train on November 17, 2013, 10:03:30 AM
Interesting.  Maybe I'll try Velcroing the thing to the dash pad.
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Post by: Buy early on November 17, 2013, 10:16:33 AM
I have the wireless controller too. The nice thing is you can put it wherever you wish. You can carry it in a pocket, velcro it to your bike, tank bag, or windshield. Move it with you from bike to bike. IMHO it's the only way to go.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 17, 2013, 10:56:40 AM
Has anyone installed the Gerbing permanent dual controller?

Any pictures?



I put the dual controller in 6-7 years ago. Used 12 gauge wire from an added fuse in the box to the controller and back to pig tails I have coming out of the left side cover.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 17, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
Also, any issues with it from a reliability standpoint?


No issues at all. Although, now that wireless kits are available I would probably reconsider drilling the holes in the fairing. But it works for me.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 17, 2013, 11:05:12 AM
My pig tails for the controller just come out of the hole in the frame under the seat, above the exhaust pipe. I use the 18-20" long jumpers to go from the pig tail to the gear once I get on the bike.
I also have 2 more pigtails that are not on a thermostat that I can tap into for either my wife or extra gear for me on the really cold days. For those I have the clip on dual controllers.

The dash thermostat usually gets the gloves and the jacket liner or socks/boot insole.

BTW, I just tried the boot insoles for the first time yesterday. wasn't too cold of a test, but, within 15 minutes I turned them down from high to about half. Another 5-10 minutes and I turned them off. They can get uncomfortably hot, so a t-stat is necessary.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Billy on November 17, 2013, 02:40:47 PM
Just installed mine on the heat shield  Gerbing said no problem with the heat they are made for it    work great. I had to order the plugs from garbing so they don't hang out the side of the tank. A very clean look and no damage to painted d parts.    Billy
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 110tHunDer on November 17, 2013, 02:50:46 PM
I have the wireless controller too. The nice thing is you can put it wherever you wish. You can carry it in a pocket, velcro it to your bike, tank bag, or windshield. Move it with you from bike to bike. IMHO it's the only way to go.

The Powerlet device works with Gerbing?
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Buy early on November 17, 2013, 10:00:34 PM
The Powerlet device works with Gerbing?


Yep. I have gerbing gloves and jacket and Powerlet controller.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: spada84 on November 18, 2013, 09:17:45 AM

I put the dual controller in 6-7 years ago. Used 12 gauge wire from an added fuse in the box to the controller and back to pig tails I have coming out of the left side cover.


I also have the Powerlet Wireless Controller.  Actually took an old, single circuit HD (Gerbing) jacket and re-wired it for dual circuit, adding the glove connections as a separate circuit. Had to do this after buying the Powerlet glove liners.  First time I turned them on, felt like my hands were in a toaster.  I have the controller mounted underneath the left handlebar switch cluster using 3M Dual-Lock.  Best way I have found yet.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: CowboyBagger on November 18, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
I also have the Powerlet Wireless Controller.  Actually took an old, single circuit HD (Gerbing) jacket and re-wired it for dual circuit, adding the glove connections as a separate circuit. Had to do this after buying the Powerlet glove liners.  First time I turned them on, felt like my hands were in a toaster.  I have the controller mounted underneath the left handlebar switch cluster using 3M Dual-Lock.  Best way I have found yet.


Do you have any pictures of how you mounted the wireless controller?

Cowboy
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: spada84 on November 18, 2013, 10:53:32 AM
Do you have any pictures of how you mounted the wireless controller?

Cowboy

Photos of controller mounted, tie looped around handlebar, 3M Dual Lock.  You cannot even see the Dual Lock on the switch housing unless you get under it.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: spada84 on November 18, 2013, 10:54:20 AM
Pic 2
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Post by: spada84 on November 18, 2013, 10:54:55 AM
Pic 3
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Post by: WFP on November 18, 2013, 11:18:03 AM
Pic 3

Always have a backup plan!

/Bill
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Twolanerider on November 18, 2013, 11:43:14 AM
I've got the standard old wired dual controller and hadn't considered alternatives since it just worked.  Wasn't even aware of the wireless controller but was never interested in the hard wired dual controller both because didn't want to mount it and what I had worked well enough.  It can be clumsy with the gloves on but it works.

This wireless controller could be better though.  One controller that could move back and forth between bikes and the velcro mount is just too smart not to do.  So......, how long do the batteries last in this transmitter and is the receiver small enough that it easily tucks away someplace in your riding gear?  Does the receiver have a standard SAE plug to power itself and the clothing?
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Ironhorse on November 18, 2013, 11:52:11 AM
I do like that install under the controls, very easy to use. I'd just be worried about theft.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Buy early on November 18, 2013, 10:45:10 PM
I've got the standard old wired dual controller and hadn't considered alternatives since it just worked.  Wasn't even aware of the wireless controller but was never interested in the hard wired dual controller both because didn't want to mount it and what I had worked well enough.  It can be clumsy with the gloves on but it works.

This wireless controller could be better though.  One controller that could move back and forth between bikes and the velcro mount is just too smart not to do.  So......, how long do the batteries last in this transmitter and is the receiver small enough that it easily tucks away someplace in your riding gear?  Does the receiver have a standard SAE plug to power itself and the clothing?

Photo attached. Receiver about the size of a matchbook. Goes in jacket pocket. Cut small hole in jacket pocket to run wires to clothing and battery wire. Put controller wherever you want. You do need coax to SAE plug adapter unless you want to change out your battery wire. I use the adapter.

From the owners manual - The Battery should last a season and is replaced by removing the screws that hold the lid in place. The battery is a CR2032 and is available anywhere coin-cell batteries are sold. I carry a spare.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Twolanerider on November 19, 2013, 12:46:16 AM
Photo attached. Receiver about the size of a matchbook. Goes in jacket pocket. Cut small hole in jacket pocket to run wires to clothing and battery wire. Put controller wherever you want. You do need coax to SAE plug adapter unless you want to change out your battery wire. I use the adapter.

From the owners manual - The Battery should last a season and is replaced by removing the screws that hold the lid in place. The battery is a CR2032 and is available anywhere coin-cell batteries are sold. I carry a spare.

Thanks Mark.  I think that's the same battery as in the alarm remotes.  Also works in a couple of GDO remotes I've got so have those batteries in multiply redundant spares.  Harbor Freight has them CHEAP.

I'm getting one of these remotes.  Like Powerlet stuff to begin with and have their plugs on each bike already.  Already have the Powerlet to SAE adapter cables for each bike too so am good to go.  Now only have to decide if I get one right away or since it's those close to Christmas leave pictures and hints for family....  8)
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 05Train on November 19, 2013, 09:41:31 AM
Great idea putting it under the hand control!  Ordering one now.
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Post by: Ironhorse on November 19, 2013, 09:50:53 AM
Great idea putting it under the hand control!  Ordering one now.

Where are you ordering from? Who have you found has the best price?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: spada84 on November 19, 2013, 11:43:40 AM
Where are you ordering from? Who have you found has the best price?

Thanks!


I believe that I got mine from Revzilla.  However, looks like First Gear has their own version.  Bet it's the same thing with different labeling:
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/firstgear-remote-dual-heat-troller
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 05Train on November 19, 2013, 09:17:14 PM
Where are you ordering from? Who have you found has the best price?

Thanks!

Revzilla.  I've got a $25 credit there, so that's probably my best price.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: FLHTCUSE7 on November 19, 2013, 09:24:52 PM
They use AAA batteries in the current version of the controller
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 20, 2013, 12:23:30 PM
So, if you turn on the boot insoles, jacket liner, gloves, seat and grips and idle too long at the traffic light, the check engine and battery light comes on.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Ironhorse on November 20, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
So, if you turn on the boot insoles, jacket liner, gloves, seat and grips and idle too long at the traffic light, the check engine and battery light comes on.

What does the volt meter read?
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 20, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
What does the volt meter read?

Was above 14 until I stopped, then just below 14. But that is the HD gauge, never checked it with a DVM
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 05Train on November 20, 2013, 07:47:47 PM
So, if you turn on the boot insoles, jacket liner, gloves, seat and grips and idle too long at the traffic light, the check engine and battery light comes on.
Never had a problem with that, though with the thermostat you're rarely (if ever) pulling max draw on all the heated gear.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 21, 2013, 09:11:35 AM
Never had a problem with that, though with the thermostat you're rarely (if ever) pulling max draw on all the heated gear.

I am in the 1st 10 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 05Train on November 21, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
I am in the 1st 10 minutes or so.
As the stuff warms up?  OK, I can see that, but even with those three items running full-tilt, your gear's only drawing 9.8 amps.  No way that should cause any problem with your charging system.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: porthole on November 21, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
As the stuff warms up?  OK, I can see that, but even with those three items running full-tilt, your gear's only drawing 9.8 amps.  No way that should cause any problem with your charging system.

5 heat items, heated grips (max) heated seat (2nd or 3rd level) too.

And, spotlights are always on as well as the Motolights (LED's now). Hawg wired amps, tourpak with tail, spoiler and side lights, SG fender extension with light, all small draws, but the cumulative total I'm sure is approaching the max of what is available at idle.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: Twolanerider on November 21, 2013, 12:13:03 PM
5 heat items, heated grips (max) heated seat (2nd or 3rd level) too.

And, spotlights are always on as well as the Motolights (LED's now). Hawg wired amps, tourpak with tail, spoiler and side lights, SG fender extension with light, all small draws, but the cumulative total I'm sure is approaching the max of what is available at idle.

Go to the 2006 rotor, stator and regulator if pushing past supply at idle.  The three phase charging system supplies much better at low RPM.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 05Train on November 21, 2013, 08:41:38 PM
Ahh, just saw you're an '05.  Makes sense.
Title: Re: Gerbing permanent dual controller
Post by: 05Train on November 21, 2013, 09:38:19 PM
Installed the Powerlet controller today.   Freaking awesome!

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