I would sure not buy a SERT from ebay. If it's been used, it's mated to a specific ECM and is unusable on any other bike. I just traded my 08 and handed the dealer the SERT as it was useless to me. I got mine from Zanotti's at 20% off.how much was it????
BTW, it's no longer a SERT, it's now a Super Tuner. You might also want to look at a TTS Mastertune, they are the company that made the SERT for Harley, now they market their own product.
just curious what everyone paid for there tuner(screamin eagle ) how much just for the tuner and how much to install and what is the part # for a 2007 screaming eagle springer i was gonna look on ebay possibly to see how much but the harley catalog does not have the sert listed ???
anybody got a part number for the SERT for the 2010's
the super SERT is the same part number as for the past two years: 32109-08A; $459.95
however, you need to also purchase, if you're going to do your own playing with it, the 2010 software: 32111-10; $29.95, and the Cable Kit, 32184-08; $39.95.
You can get all of these through Chicago HD online, or Jenni Sapyda, Tri-Counties HD, for 20% off plus shipping.
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Thanks for the part #'s. I couldn't locate them for some reason. And I do all of my shopping through Chicago HD or Surdyke HD online for the 20%. I don't buy at the dealer unless it is something small or I need it right away.Go here - Screamin' Eagle Pro Racing Parts (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Racing/screamin_eagle_parts.jsp?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US&HDCWPSession=P2CTKJTcfMGFfHL041Bz3TbhPsp24h71Lyrtwn4vpWCJwv8pR8Hy!-477804927!-525611607) and download the catalog and you'll find the info about the tuner.
Do you know what maps (If any) come with it?
Go here - Screamin' Eagle Pro Racing Parts (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Racing/screamin_eagle_parts.jsp?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US&HDCWPSession=P2CTKJTcfMGFfHL041Bz3TbhPsp24h71Lyrtwn4vpWCJwv8pR8Hy!-477804927!-525611607) and download the catalog and you'll find the info about the tuner.
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Thanks for the part #'s. I couldn't locate them for some reason. And I do all of my shopping through Chicago HD or Surdyke HD online for the 20%. I don't buy at the dealer unless it is something small or I need it right away.
Do you know what maps (If any) come with it?
Muchas Gracias!!!! :bananarock:You're welcome... enjoy. :2vrolijk_21:
This may seem like a lame question, but.......SERT or TTS Mastertune????? I used a SERT back in 04 and it looks like it's changed a lot, but I have no experience with the TTS.
If you're not going to tune the bike yourself. Go with whichever one your tuner is more comfortable with. You'll get the best results that way. My dealer, sells the PC, Fuel Pak, and SERT, but the tech that does the dyno work prefers the SERT, so that's what I went with.I do most of the work myself, I just bring it in for the final dyno fine tune. I will ask him for an opinion.
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If that doesn't answer what you need then you can call us and get a real person to answer your questions for you.
So if I read this correctly,
Steve Cole is not a real person :o
Damn, and I have been reading every post this "non-person" has posted.
Seems very smart to not be a real person!
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The vtune is the same as the HD smart tune right?? It will build a custom map from data from the O2 sensors--correct?
If you believe that then I got some desert property here in CA i would love to sell you that is ocean front on the Pacific Ocean! They are not event close to the same in how they operate or the final result from using them. Vtune has been out and proven for ~ a year now, Smart Tune just isn't very smart and is going to give this type of tuning a bad name. SESPT cost is $459.95 plus software and cables, Mastertune is $425.00 plus cables. So you go figure your numbers again as Mastertune cost is not $100 more than SESPT
Steve,
I believe he was comparing your MSRP vs getting the Super SERT at a 20% off dealer, like Chicago Harley. He was asking if you gave a discount too. :nixweiss:
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Thanks Red Devil....
Steve..I meant no disrespect--it was just a question....... :oops: I shop online at Chicago HD and they give 20% off of the MSRP pricing..Doing that math you are more expensive. It may be worth it, but I had to ask.
Like you say, is it worth it? Is to me. My opinion, of course!
"They are not event close to the same in how they operate or the final result from using them. Vtune has been out and proven for ~ a year now, Smart Tune just isn't very smart and is going to give this type of tuning a bad name"
Not even close.....the description is close so I figured I would ask.....
You gents with Cary Faas mufflers including myself I noticed that the bike is in definite need of a tune. In fact today we went for a 75 mile ride and when i got home i noticed that the right side pipe had a couple of bubbled chrome spots and that the pipe at the neck is yellowish! Man I was >:(!
If you have the CFR exhaust what tuner method are you using?
Red Devil:
I have a Super Tuner coming form Jenni--today I think..
since you seem to know the technical aspics of the product I have a question. Does the new software allow you to "read" the map that is in the bike before you get started and save it??? As you a;lready know the SERT wouldn't so you needed to keep track of it on your computer.
I like to have a back up just in case.......
Steve:
Have you tested the new Super Tuner along side your product???
I would greatly appreciate your assessment along with the pluses and minuses of each product especially as it pertains to the 2010 CVO's that use the new bungs.
Thanks
Yes, we have compared the two.
I have done 2 bikes so far with mastertune and about to do a 2010 ltd 103. so easy, well you know
another feature not mentioned about the Mastertune is that it Doesn't leave a footprint on your ECM, the SERT, SSERT and now mousesert, does leave one.
Yes, we have compared the two. Let's start by saying my comment of not event close was from that testing. The new Supertuner is a poorly done deal at best. The Smart tune only allows you to check a box to turn it on. You cannot set it up like you can with Mastertune. What you see on the screen is NOT what gets put into your ECM. There is no user interface with the Smart tune so you have no idea of what went on and why. You have no way to see if you have collected good data, bad data or how much of either. The new SESPT in no different than the last other than adding the new feature. You buy it and you get updates but has anyone tried to update the SESPT lately? How come those that have bought the tuner cannot get the Smart tune unless you buy a new version??? Mastertune get's update and ALL users get the updates! Mastertune is the only current product that allows you to make a backup copy of how your bike is before you start. Mastertune is the only current product that allows you to put it back to the original setup at any time. Mastertune allows you to calibrate your speedometer, Primary gearing, PE mode both spark and fuel and on and on and on that your cannot do with SESPT or any other tuner.
So in short Mastertune allows you to do a much better job tuning and calibrating. It allows you to see what is going on and change it. DataMaster which is included allows you to work and diagnosis your bike if you have issues. Vtune which is included shows you what is going on while making the calibration changes for you. This allows you to make the final decision and understand why your making it.
MSRP for Mastertune is $425.00 which includes the software
MSRP for SESPT is $459.95 which does NOT include software
Price you get from dealers can and will vary so to say the SESPT is cheaper is like pissing in the wind, some times you win and sometimes you do not. One thing for sure is your getting 1/2 the product when you buy the SESPT when compared to Mastertune.
Yea I agree that's very important!!!
WE NEED A FEATURE/FUNCTION COMPARISION OF THE LEADING SOLUTIONS.
Here is something I did long ago so it doesn't event cover Vtune, DataMaster and the software updater that come with Mastertune, but you should get the idea.
Function Mastertune SESPRT Air Fuel Ratio yes yes VE Front Cylinder yes yes VE Rear Cylinder yes yes Warmup Enrichment yes yes Cranking Fuel yes yes Closed Loop Bias Front Cyl. yes yes Closed Loop Bias Rear Cyl. yes yes Accel Enrichment yes yes Decel Enleanment yes yes Spark Advance Front Cyl. yes yes Spark Advance Rear Cyl. yes yes Idle RPM yes yes IAC Warmup Steps yes yes Engine Displacement yes yes Injector Size yes yes RPM Limit yes yes Knock Control yes yes EITMS yes yes ACR yes yes Active Exhaust yes yes Active Intake yes yes PE Air Fuel Ratio yes NO PE Spark yes NO Spark Temperature Correction yes NO Closed Throttle Spark yes NO Adaptive Knock Retard yes NO IAC Crank to Run yes NO IAC Crank Steps yes NO Max Knock Retard yes NO PE Mode yes NO Primary Ratio yes NO Speedometer Calibration yes NO Backup original calibration yes NO Reinstall original calibration yes NO Dual bike units yes NO Software Included yes NO
So like I said you get 1/2 the product when you buy the SESPT unit compared to Mastertune.
Here is something I did long ago so it doesn't event cover Vtune, DataMaster and the software updater that come with Mastertune, but you should get the idea.
Function Mastertune SESPRT
Air Fuel Ratio yes yes
VE Front Cylinder yes yes
VE Rear Cylinder yes yes
Warmup Enrichment yes yes
So like I said you get 1/2 the product when you buy the SESPT unit compared to Mastertune.
Thanks for all of the hard work Steve Cole and Charles05663.There are several vendors offering a discount for TTS Mastertune... check/search the Vendor Discounts (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?board=45.0) Board.
I don't have the Super Tuner...yet but it should show up in the mail today....
I'm contemplating whether I should send it back or not. It'll cost a 15% "restocking fee" I'm sure. the "additional cost" of switching in my assessment would not be a show stopper.
STEVE COLE: Is there a CVOHarley Forum member discount available??
Steve/Charles05663 would you please add the " no footprint" issue and the multiple user capability to your chart when you get a chance. I am recommending that this get Stickied in a special section.
There are several vendors offering a discount for TTS Mastertune... check/search the Vendor Discounts (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?board=45.0) Board.
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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Will the cables from my 04 SERT fit a new TTS for my 2010???
...showed Doc1...
So, if anyone knows of a reliable vendor or dealer doing a discount I sure would like to know.
Regards
Yes, it still uses the same one.
As for who can use the TTS Mastertune pretty much anyone as it's pretty simple. Then, it was also used by every HD dealer that ever installed and tuned with a SERT. Anyone that has a SERT or has worked with the SERT just needs to open the software and go under Help and About and guess who's name you will see owns the product!
Steve:
I have a "box" sitting in front of me as we speak containing "the other product".
I think the best course of action for me is to download your instruction manual and read it throughly along with your very detailed feature comparison post.
Then I'll decide whether or not to send this package back and buy yours.
I do have to admit you have given me a lot to think about and I sincerely appreciate it!!!!
THANKS VERY MUCH!!
I am sure its me but doing a search on TT Master tune showed Doc1 at a 10% discount and no one else.Don't know how you searched/looked but I got these threads...
So, if anyone knows of a reliable vendor or dealer doing a discount I sure would like to know.
Regards
Don't know how you searched/looked but I got these threads...
Fullsac Performance is now a TTS Mastertune Dealer! (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=32104.0) Page 1 of Vendor Discount Board
TTS V-Tuner Member Discount (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=25184.0) Page 3 of Vendor Discount Board
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Fired00d
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As the manufacture and per forum rules I stay out of the pricing part of things other than MSRP. Just remember that things I compared for you do not event include V-tune, DataMaster and the updater! The new Smart tune is pretty poor and rumor has it HD is figuring that out already and telling dealers not to use it on Vrods already as there are issues. The things we have are in the product because we know they need to be there to do a proper tune, while not all bikes will need to change the same things we allow you to if you need to, the others do not.
The choice is always up to the customer but there is an old saying and it holds true more times than not,YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. This is a case where we give you a lot more with a proven product and HD is still trying to figure it out on your dime!
Just released another batch of calibrations for the 2010 DBW bikes. There is now a total of 13 released so far. I've got about 3 or 4 more to finish next week before I'm done but this should be more than enough for most all of you. Good luck and happy tuning!Thanks for the update Steve. Does Mastertune have any plans to offer a Mac compatible version of the software? It sure would be helpful for some of us ;)