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[98fxstc]

I never understood the thinking that running an untuned engine for 500 miles is good for break in.

You should have a look at how the MOCO starts and runs their new motors.
One big difference too these new bigger motors will be started with fuel calibrations that are a country mile off or in the case of the " street legal" version that will receive no changes. And that said with this flash canned map is the combination of parts including and especially important the pipe what the MOCO prescribed in the recipe?
I would have nothing less than and insist on a heat and Afr corrected dyno run of my new motor and refuse any canned map.

Quite a few here don't understand the benefit of a proper tune and believe everything the dealer tells them
Most of the dealers don't know what a proper tune is either

[Para Bellum]

Sure are a lot of unhappy CVO owners on this forum.

Ever wonder why?  Might have something to do with, in my case, 44 years of dealing with HD, and 10 years with 110s.  I hope your experience doesn't take you down the same path.

[RoadDawg]

Just wondering what you were not happy about that you felt the need to upgrade to 117?

I was very happy with my 110. Now I'll be even happier. 

[RoadDawg]

Well now I read the work order again and see this: "50 mile break in performed on dyno. Customer to ride 500 miles not to exceed 3800 RPM. Return to dyno after 1000 miles."
I'll call today and confirm, but I doubt they'll do anything unless I follow their instructions. I'm bummed about this. No way I'll have numbers for a while if I have to put another 800 miles on the bike after 200 "easy" miles yesterday. Ugh! It'll be weeks before I can do that. UPDATE: Addition mistake with somebody at the shop. Called them and it's 500 miles. Will do 300 more today and dyno Monday. Anyway, I can give seat-of-the-pants reports along the way. This will be the first: Considering I have to keep it under 3800 rpm, it's a little difficult to say because I can exceed 4000 rpm so fast in first gear I have to be careful (just the way I roll). Having said that, I suspect I'll be a very happy camper once I can open her up. This build with 259e cams feels every bit as spunky as my 110 with 255 cams. If there's a difference, it's minimal IMO. At 2500 rpm in first and second gear, she really starts to kick in. I can definitely feel the pull. Keeping it under 3800 rpm is a challenge. Third gear is where it really seems to find itself when I'm just rolling along. Can't wait to go all out. In 6th gear, a  little twist on the throttle will get you another 10 mph before you can glance down at your speedo. Up hill it wants to pull like a farm tractor. No need to down shift into 5th gear. The engine sounds a little lumpier than it did with the 255 cams, but that might be my imagination. Anyway, the engine sounds pretty good to me. I'll try to answer any questions from the forum. More to come..

[Lever]

Very nice!! Congratulations
I'll bet it's put a smile on your face

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[bigchuck]

Glad to hear your experience has been all positive thus far. Hopefully it will do but keep getting better. Congratulations 

[RoadDawg]

Glad to hear your experience has been all positive thus far. Hopefully it will do but keep getting better. Congratulations 

Thanks to all for positive comments.  I realize I'm the forum 117 guinea pig at this point so I do appreciate them. I am very happy at this point, especially now that I've called the shop this morning and was told the 1000 mile return for dyno was a miscalculation. Return after 500 miles, they say. I will ride 300 miles today. The bike will be tuned on Monday. Fortunately it will be in the upper 50s and sunny again, so I'm off shortly.

[Beak Boater]

I had 259's in a 110 Street Glide....with the exhaust I was running they really didn't want to pull real hard until about 3000 rpms. Then they tried to stretch your arms out a little. Good luck with your build

[hrdtail78]

Also, I know they'll be naysayers, but in my opinion, I wouldn't want my bike ran on a dyno with new cams/lifters, cylinders, and pistons either.  I am assuming you are not using break-in oil of any kind.

Why not?  The bike doesn't know if it on the street or on a dyno at 10% throttle and 3200 rpm.  The dyno's advantage is.  You can monitor engine temp, AFR for both cylinders, and timing events.  See the AFR going 16-17:1 in an area.  Stop and change it.  See the AFR going pig rich.  Stop and change.  Bikes heating up real fast.  Stop and add timing.......  People need to understand that a lot more things go on with a dyno and it can do so much more than WOT pulls to redline.  I can break in an engine.  Map 90% of the tune.  Put 80-90 miles on the bike, and never hit 100kpa, WOT, or redline.

 

[hrdtail78]

Has anyone seen this?
mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

It's what I did for my 88"/95"  build. 22,000+ miles. No problems. No oil used between changes.

 

[Lever]

Very well said

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[HD Street Performance]

Why not?  The bike doesn't know if it on the street or on a dyno at 10% throttle and 3200 rpm.  The dyno's advantage is.  You can monitor engine temp, AFR for both cylinders, and timing events.  See the AFR going 16-17:1 in an area.  Stop and change it.  See the AFR going pig rich.  Stop and change.  Bikes heating up real fast.  Stop and add timing.......  People need to understand that a lot more things go on with a dyno and it can do so much more than WOT pulls to redline.  I can break in an engine.  Map 90% of the tune.  Put 80-90 miles on the bike, and never hit 100kpa, WOT, or redline.

 

Yep 

[OBB]

Has anyone seen this?
mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

It's what I did for my 88"/95"  build. 22,000+ miles. No problems. No oil used between changes.

Here's the link that will take you right to it.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Exactly how I broke in my '15. 

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

 I hope that all goes well and there is no damage...  But when you get done and the results are less than what you thought , you may have one reason why.

Not trying to be negative but its just ridicules  for statements like that from a shop that should be a pro at this .. 


Not a chance would I suggest that its simple , Build then on the drum for 100% monitored break in and tune . 

 

[Para Bellum]

I hope that all goes well and there is no damage...  But when you get done and the results are less than what you thought , you may have one reason why.

Not trying to be negative but its just ridicules  for statements like that from a shop that should be a pro at this .. 


Not a chance would I suggest that its simple , Build then on the drum for 100% monitored break in and tune . 

Not being sarcastic or snarky.  I'm trying to understand who (or which shop) you are referring to, what isn't that simple, and what you are recommending.