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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #240 on: January 30, 2016, 02:42:15 PM »

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #241 on: January 30, 2016, 03:00:10 PM »

Pretty cool stuff

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #242 on: January 30, 2016, 03:07:34 PM »

Well any shop that does a build of this nature should be tuning the bike right away.. There is no canned map that is going to be close to that build with his pipes etc. the idea that with the amount of money spent on bike, upgrades some one would take the chance to ride it without tuning is ludicrous. 

That is my point , today zero reason not to tune the bike right away.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #243 on: January 30, 2016, 03:25:01 PM »

Well any shop that does a build of this nature should be tuning the bike right away.. There is no canned map that is going to be close to that build with his pipes etc. the idea that with the amount of money spent on bike, upgrades some one would take the chance to ride it without tuning is ludicrous. 

That is my point , today zero reason not to tune the bike right away.
Tuning aside (BTW - I do agree that a build should be tuned prior to customer picking up bike) do you recommend a break in procedure of the motor after owner receives their bike or is that neccesary?

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #244 on: January 30, 2016, 03:29:56 PM »



One showed up at my shop today as well.   


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #245 on: January 30, 2016, 04:36:02 PM »

Well any shop that does a build of this nature should be tuning the bike right away.. There is no canned map that is going to be close to that build with his pipes etc. the idea that with the amount of money spent on bike, upgrades some one would take the chance to ride it without tuning is ludicrous. 

That is my point , today zero reason not to tune the bike right away.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #246 on: January 30, 2016, 10:22:08 PM »

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #247 on: January 30, 2016, 10:52:50 PM »

Darn thing is only a couple weeks  old!


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #248 on: January 31, 2016, 08:02:21 AM »

I hope that all goes well and there is no damage...  But when you get done and the results are less than what you thought , you may have one reason why.

Not trying to be negative but its just ridicules  for statements like that from a shop that should be a pro at this ..  :soapbox:


Not a chance would I suggest that its simple , Build then on the drum for 100% monitored break in and tune .  :2vrolijk_21:

 For not trying to be negative you're doing a pretty good job of it anyway.  :sweatdrop: You say you hope there is no damage. After spending almost $4000, so do I. The tech states on the work order that he did a 50 mile break in on the dyno. He wanted me to add another 500 before bringing it back. Will talk to him Monday to find out what he did. Have to admit I'm concerned after reading your post.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #249 on: January 31, 2016, 08:55:13 AM »

This sounds like the Tech did a base tune to get it close and wants you to bring it back after 500 for a final tune. That is a far cry from simply putting the parts in and turning you loose to put 500 on it before tuning, which would be less than desirable and without some change to the mapping perhaps damaging.

I know one very good tech that prefers to do just what you are describing. A few miles tuning on the dyno to get it close, then 500 miles, then final tune. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Now if you were 500 miles away from the tuner, that's another ball of wax. Then likely all tuning has to be done before you take the bike.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #250 on: January 31, 2016, 09:10:39 AM »

This sounds like the Tech did a base tune to get it close and wants you to bring it back after 500 for a final tune. That is a far cry from simply putting the parts in and turning you loose to put 500 on it before tuning, which would be less than desirable and without some change to the mapping perhaps damaging.

I know one very good tech that prefers to do just what you are describing. A few miles tuning on the dyno to get it close, then 500 miles, then final tune. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Now if you were 500 miles away from the tuner, that's another ball of wax. Then likely all tuning has to be done before you take the bike.

Whew! That is comforting. Thank you.  :)
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #251 on: January 31, 2016, 11:00:13 AM »

Whew! That is comforting. Thank you.  :)


In my experience, "in the ballpark" tunes are pretty standard for new builds. The idea is that you can ride at varied speeds to seat the rings and parts. You shouldn't go to the drag strip or hole shot  somebody at the stop light during the break in.  Roll ons from 2,500 to 4,500rpms are good too.

After each run, check the oil level and for any leaks.  Then take it back to get it dialed in and you can "ride it like you stole it."


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #252 on: January 31, 2016, 11:12:39 AM »

That is the same as I was told putting a base tune for 500 miles and then return. My bike is being shipped to Daytona for bike week unless I put miles on sooner.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #253 on: January 31, 2016, 11:57:38 AM »

Hate to say it guys, the bikes are already broken in and what happens between 50 and 500 miles better just be miles. If the rings are still breaking in then you have bigger issues.
When you get your new motorcycle the motor and transmission was tested by a motor driven machine (no fuel or spark plugs) and a dyno test.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #254 on: January 31, 2016, 01:23:09 PM »

Hate to say it guys, the bikes are already broken in and what happens between 50 and 500 miles better just be miles. If the rings are still breaking in then you have bigger issues.
When you get your new motorcycle the motor and transmission was tested by a motor driven machine (no fuel or spark plugs) and a dyno test.

http://mustangae.com/project-spotlights/mae-delivers-three-self-contained-automated-eol-test-cells-to-harley-davidson-for-multi-function-motorcycle-production-validation-testing/

HD: When you say "what happens between 50 and 500 miles better just be miles." What do you mean? Are you saying drive sanely without letter her rip? That's what I did, anyway. Please let me know.
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