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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #495 on: February 17, 2016, 01:57:12 PM »


It will be interesting to see the 259 with a 2-1-2.

I couldn't possibly be more anxious to find out


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #496 on: February 17, 2016, 02:05:58 PM »

Not going to offend me.  Customer bought the kit and brought it to me.  I had him take back the SE tuner because he already had the same tuner locked to his bike.  I had him return the lifters and pushrods.  He originally had the 259e and after a quick conversation about his riding style I suggested he trade the cam for the SE 585.  Not my cam of choice and this is the first I have tuned, but of the 2 cams that were the option.  This one suites him better.  This is based on comparing the 585 to the 555tqster and the TW57.  As for as the top end HP.  What is the limit of stock CVO heads, what's the limit of the 585 cam, and what about the limit of the stock ventilator AC for the SE58?  I think that AC would be much better if they would of designed it to suck air from the front of it also.

Glad we can talk freely, some on here are easily offended and then you have to go underground on PMs.

The SE-585 has a nice and low overlap number, but it also has a relatively short intake duration compared to the SE-259E.  I understand the customer’s constraints though when you’re trading parts.  I cringe at the missed opportunity to change a $32.71 0.030” thick head gasket and get another ~0.2:1 compression.  9.9.1 --> 10.1:1 with stock heads.  You’re probably right about being near the max flow of stock CVO heads with an 117ci.  The stock ventilator AC cannot be helping either, but it is what is.

There are several head porters that might chime in on the max flow capabilities with stock CVO heads.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #497 on: February 17, 2016, 05:18:42 PM »

My 117 "investment" in my toy was finalized today. Will pick it up tomorrow. Looking forward to see how it rides. Just have to ride slow through the snow in my street!  Snow free on the highway!!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #498 on: February 18, 2016, 12:07:47 AM »

Well after months of loving my 110cvo powered FatBob this morning I ran into a Dodge magnun with a 5.7 hemi and from 75mph to +++ starting off in 4th it was everything I could do to try and stick with him ( clearly not a bone stock car) he slowly walked away leaving me with a sad face after the encounter. Now I think my stock clutch pack that was for 96" is starting to show its 30,000 miles of not the easiest life played a big part as it has been acting up. But damn its time yet again to bump up the power. After the clutch pack and spring get a boost.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #499 on: February 18, 2016, 04:27:42 AM »

Fyi there's is a solution for the ventilator air cleaner. .. a wider filter is available for it ...Will post pics of mine

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #500 on: February 18, 2016, 05:58:26 AM »


Fyi there's is a solution for the ventilator air cleaner. .. a wider filter is available for it ...Will post pics of mine

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Yes please !


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #501 on: February 18, 2016, 07:07:43 AM »

Here ya go
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #502 on: February 18, 2016, 07:09:05 AM »

Another
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« Reply #503 on: February 18, 2016, 07:11:52 AM »

One more
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #504 on: February 18, 2016, 07:13:21 AM »

Do you have a part number or anything for it?


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #505 on: February 18, 2016, 07:48:46 AM »

Yeah will post info later
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #506 on: February 18, 2016, 08:22:31 AM »

Well after months of loving my 110cvo powered FatBob this morning I ran into a Dodge magnun with a 5.7 hemi and from 75mph to +++ starting off in 4th it was everything I could do to try and stick with him ( clearly not a bone stock car) he slowly walked away leaving me with a sad face after the encounter. Now I think my stock clutch pack that was for 96" is starting to show its 30,000 miles of not the easiest life played a big part as it has been acting up. But damn its time yet again to bump up the power. After the clutch pack and spring get a boost.
Welcome to the 117 Club.  ;)
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #507 on: February 18, 2016, 08:25:36 AM »

Fyi there's is a solution for the ventilator air cleaner. .. a wider filter is available for it ...Will post pics of mine

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How does the SE Heavy Breather compare to the ventilator for air flow?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #508 on: February 18, 2016, 08:27:19 AM »


How does the SE Heavy Breather compare to the ventilator for air flow?
I believe they move more air but I think they interfere with the hard lowers on a touring bike.

Probably work great for you though.

I'm liking this wider filter though.


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #509 on: February 18, 2016, 08:33:56 AM »

I believe they move more air but I think they interfere with the hard lowers on a touring bike.

Probably work great for you though.

I'm liking this wider filter though.


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Okay thanks. Yes the wider filter looks good. I'd get one if not for the Heavy Breather I already have, which I really like.
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