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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #555 on: February 21, 2016, 11:15:15 AM »

With lowers the HB is where it gets tight. Won't work on my CVO RK as they have speakers there.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #556 on: February 21, 2016, 12:12:16 PM »


I'd sure like to know the logic for selecting the SE-585 cams with the 117 kit, other than it comes next in line after the SE-259E in the SE catalog.  They're in order of aggressiveness in the catalog, so it must be better...right?  In my opinion, the numbers on SE-585 cams are not good for the 117 kit.  Not to be confused with the S&S 585 cams, those numbers are more apprpriate for the 117 kit in my opinion.  Maybe why only 106 HP.

Thanks for Posting the Video Though,

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I think it's just because it's the cam Harley has told you lives 'between' the 255 and the 259.




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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #557 on: February 21, 2016, 12:14:37 PM »


Thanks for posting. Looks like your bike...nice! Horsepower was 106...seems low or did I hear it wrong?

Well I think the parts choice basically says they aren't looking for high rpm performance.

Mathematically, if your torque curve starts to take a turn down well before 5250, you're not going to be impressed by the hp number.

Also, he used the stock tb so I bet that cost a couple ponies right there


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #558 on: February 21, 2016, 12:58:46 PM »

With lowers the HB is where it gets tight. Won't work on my CVO RK as they have speakers there.
I had the same speaker housings on my 11 flhxse. That bike is the reason I came up with this idea.  Worked perfectly on it also.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #559 on: February 21, 2016, 01:06:26 PM »

looks good...any details on your build, witch cam, was it tuned with this breather? thanx

Headwork-  port, polished and matched to 58mm TB, 3 angle on the valves, 259 E cams because I have had good results with them before. My head guy did say the valve guides took some work to get them where they needed to be.  I like to put miles on mine before they are on the dyno too much. Just my personal preference.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #560 on: February 21, 2016, 02:00:12 PM »


Also, he used the stock tb so I bet that cost a couple ponies right there


I must have missed that.  When you say "stock tb", are you talking 50mm?  If so, you're probably talking 4.8 injectors too...right?  If I am understanding correctly, why on earth would anyone do that?

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #561 on: February 21, 2016, 02:04:05 PM »

I think it's just because it's the cam Harley has told you lives 'between' the 255 and the 259.

I am not understanding your comment, because the SE-585 is outside the 255 - 259 range.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #562 on: February 21, 2016, 04:11:37 PM »

I must have missed that.  When you say "stock tb", are you talking 50mm?  If so, you're probably talking 4.8 injectors too...right?  If I am understanding correctly, why on earth would anyone do that?

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Yeah, especially when the kit comes with the 58mm TB and 5.3 injectors?  Doesn't follow.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #563 on: February 21, 2016, 06:24:04 PM »

Yeah, especially when the kit comes with the 58mm TB and 5.3 injectors?  Doesn't follow.
There's 2 kits. One is just cylinders and pistons. 

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #564 on: February 21, 2016, 06:28:57 PM »

Headwork-  port, polished and matched to 58mm TB, 3 angle on the valves, 259 E cams because I have had good results with them before. My head guy did say the valve guides took some work to get them where they needed to be.  I like to put miles on mine before they are on the dyno too much. Just my personal preference.
Outside of replacing the valve guides, what kind of work needed to be done to the stock guides to get them were they needed to be ?  :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #565 on: February 21, 2016, 06:41:50 PM »

Outside of replacing the valve guides, what kind of work needed to be done to the stock guides to get them were they needed to be ?  :nixweiss:
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It is my understanding from him that one was too long and would not allow the valve to open fully at the lift of the 259.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #566 on: February 21, 2016, 08:00:48 PM »

Can head work (port polish milling)hurt the build using the 259 cam?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #567 on: February 21, 2016, 08:14:00 PM »

It is my understanding from him that one was too long and would not allow the valve to open fully at the lift of the 259.
Oh boy...
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #568 on: February 21, 2016, 08:44:12 PM »

Oh boy...
Yeah that's what I thought. Good thing I always get my heads worked. Money well spent.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #569 on: February 21, 2016, 09:30:04 PM »

With lowers the HB is where it gets tight. Won't work on my CVO RK as they have speakers there.

Very true, rant the heavy breather with short filter on my 12 SERG,  Very tight, no speakers in lowers.

Would not fit on my 13 SERK due to speakers.  Thought about trying to make it fit by cutting down the filter mount but figured I would be loosing the big advantages of the Heavy breather, the big filter and the long air intake tube.

Running the Agitator air cleaner with a high flow K&N figure it should flow as much or more than the short Heavy breather filter, especially if I cut the tube down more.

Its making good power with the head work you did for me. 
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