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[Para Bellum]

Incorrect. The Softail S and Fatboy S have the 110B, which produces according to Harley 109 lb-ft tq

The new Dyna is the 110A model, without a balancer, and according to Harley produces 116 lb-ft tq. I have owned Dyna's and never seen that frame with B motor. It doesn't really go with those style bikes. Gotta step up to a Softail or a cruiser for that.

This information is on Harleys website.

The Dyna and the Touring have the 110A, and Softails have the B.  I deleted that post above since the important parts were wrong.

[2smoke]

http://www.halshd.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=92500053

Here is a link to a dealer in my area that has the kit for $1,781.  At the bottom of the page is the fitment for the models. No doubt, it's the Throttle By Wire that is the issue.  If there is a 58mm throttle body for old fashion cable operated units then us guys with pre-'11 CVO bikes (that aren't touring models) are in.

[MrSurly]

http://www.halshd.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=92500053

Here is a link to a dealer in my area that has the kit for $1,781.  At the bottom of the page is the fitment for the models. No doubt, it's the Throttle By Wire that is the issue.  If there is a 58mm throttle body for old fashion cable operated units then us guys with pre-'11 CVO bikes (that aren't touring models) are in.

27639-07B + 29667-07
and you can easily sell the TBW 58

[ImBroke]

The '08 and newer bikes are TBW, so it's not the presence or absence of that.

except softails and dynas

[Yellow09SERG]

Are these kits still running the pistons .005 to .007 in the hole?

[Mandrew13]

I will share my dyno. I am 3 weeks out from wrapping everything up, all parts ordered.

- SE Heavy breather
- SPFabrication, Stepped 2-1 Highpipe exhaust. (I need to scrape peg not exhaust)
- Power Vision. dyno break in and custom tune.

I am doing extra stuff during the time my bike is in shop, like powdercoating wheels vivid black.



2016 Harley Davidson Dyna Low Rider S by Shaun.images, on Flickr

Burningcoals,  Your bike looks slick.  I especially like your wheels- maybe black PC will look good, but I really like the scheme you have now.

[2smoke]

27639-07B + 29667-07
and you can easily sell the TBW 58

I think you nailed it!  Looks like this will add $465 (at the least) to the cost of the kit minus whatever you can sell the unneeded 58mm TBW intake for.  Good find MrSurly. This opens the door for us guys with cable operated throttles.

[Yellow09SERG]

Kind of surprising that as many of these builds as there is and no one know where the pistons set in the hole.

[HunterJ]

58mm, thats good for non cruise bike. Not for the older touring bikes like my 07.

You'd think somebody that installed one of these would have measured the piston hole to help calculate the best head gasket as well as how much to deck the head to achieve a certain compression ratio.

[rockytop117]

Kind of surprising that as many of these builds as there is and no one know where the pistons set in the hole.

mine measured .002 in the hole.

[Yellow09SERG]

mine measured .002 in the hole.

Thank you rockytop, if I  could end up at that I wouldn't have to cut the barrels

[rockytop117]

Thank you rockytop, if I  could end up at that I wouldn't have to cut the barrels

It's a crap shoot when dealing with the moco... Good luck!

[Yellow09SERG]

It's a crap shoot when dealing with the moco... Good luck!

Yes it is and some days I really wonder if the dice are loaded

[MrSurly]

Kind of surprising that as many of these builds as there is and no one know where the pistons set in the hole.

I've seen the measurement stated, numbers will likely be -.001 to +.007 but other than a general range that is likely, NObody can tell you what the assembled deck height will be on your build. It just isn't *knowable* until you put A,B and C together and measure the stack up. The variance is mass production, assembling many disparate parts, each of which has its own tolerances. I can't even predict your ring gaps... and that is only *two* parts. The compression height has to include the crank assembly, bearings, the case halves, the connecting rod, wrist pin, pistons and cylinders and even lubricant film. You'll have to build it to see.

[RoadDawg]

I just purchased a 2016 Low Rider S with 110, dealer says exact CVO motor without the balancer, has different part numbers due to color changes on a few parts like heads. Otherwise same. I really needed info on the 259E cam and if I was going to keep my 255. I am in the 60 day 2 year warranty window, and want to retain warranty so I am just doing the kit by the book. Although I am very impressed already with some of the numbers and know I will be happy with the kit. Will I make some more TQ due to not having a balancer who knows? Should be interesting comparing numbers from A motor to B motor.

I will share my dyno. I am 3 weeks out from wrapping everything up, all parts ordered.

- SE Heavy breather
- SPFabrication, Stepped 2-1 Highpipe exhaust. (I need to scrape peg not exhaust)
- Power Vision. dyno break in and custom tune.

Should I do a .30 head gasket, or what is the recommendation for headgasket? I wish that SE would make a 10.5:1 piston or higher that would work with the kit. Aftermarket is only option?

Just had one like yours with a 117 kit installed at my dealership. Dyno tuned SAE 119 hp & 130 tq.