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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1035 on: July 16, 2016, 09:02:00 PM »

Chad right?

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Don't let the number mess with you that late intake close will allow the compression to work.

Yeah, it's just a head game with myself about CR.  I get it on the late intake close.

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Good luck with it, let us know the result.

Thanks.   I need to determine which pistons to combine with the 117 for that CR.  :)
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1036 on: July 16, 2016, 09:24:46 PM »



I need to determine which pistons to combine with the 117 for that CR.  :)

95cc chamber, .005 deck with .030hg and a 14cc dome will yield ~11.8 static compression.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1037 on: July 16, 2016, 11:16:15 PM »


95cc chamber, .005 deck with .030hg and a 14cc dome will yield ~11.8 static compression.

Impressive AND helpful.  Thanks!!

(11.8:1 still scares me to death, but I'm doin' it.)
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1038 on: July 17, 2016, 05:08:01 AM »

Yes, as Joe said, 11.6:1 even as high as 12:1
I have done it and made 149hp SAE with a 120R using the same cam @12:1, hand ported CVO 110 heads. Cranks less than the stock CVO 110 motorcycle.

A cam like Woods 9B, Tman 662-1 or 662-2 with compression adjusted for intake close will make more aggregate torque (what you feel seat of pants) but the 266E will be the HP leader by a small margin all else equal. Pipe comes into play shaping the curve.

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You have only scratched the surface. That curve has all the looks of a jacked up tune and or blowing through the clutch. The lines should be smoother.
You like it now, get it fixed and it will be better. No offence intended just constructive.. trying to help.
The graph, are those corrected numbers? No indication on the graph so they are not likely corrected. Could lower or raise the numbers overall.

Thanks for the info. I thought so. I will get a print out with the AFR and if its STD or SAE. Guess its time to make an apt at a real tuner.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1039 on: July 19, 2016, 08:36:35 AM »

Joe and an Tore my motor down Thursday to install the 117 Cylinders.  13 hours over three days and its up and running.  Will be having it tuned next week.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
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AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1040 on: July 19, 2016, 09:29:41 AM »

Joe and an Tore my motor down Thursday to install the 117 Cylinders.  13 hours over three days and its up and running.  Will be having it tuned next week.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs


That ought to get the job done - curious how the clutch feel is for you.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1041 on: July 19, 2016, 10:54:27 AM »

Joe and an Tore my motor down Thursday to install the 117 Cylinders.  13 hours over three days and its up and running.  Will be having it tuned next week.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs


Looking forward to the dyno chart, especially with the Wood 9B cams.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1042 on: July 19, 2016, 12:24:01 PM »

Joe and an Tore my motor down Thursday to install the 117 Cylinders.  13 hours over three days and its up and running.  Will be having it tuned next week.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs

what was your crank run out? Looks like this should get the job done!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1043 on: July 19, 2016, 03:08:14 PM »

Let us know how loud that Woods cam is. They are a strong performer and should work very well with your setup. The last one I heard sure made a clatter.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1044 on: July 19, 2016, 04:29:09 PM »

Let us know how loud that Woods cam is. They are a strong performer and should work very well with your setup. The last one I heard sure made a clatter.
I've got the same build as David and the cam is noisy compared to the SE259E. You are correct, it performs very well.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1045 on: July 19, 2016, 08:21:48 PM »

I got to ride cvosjoe's bike, that cam is not as noisy as some of Woods other cams. Very tolerable IMO. Can't deny the power it makes. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1046 on: July 20, 2016, 06:37:40 AM »

With all I had heard about the noise of the woods cams over the years I was expecting really loud.  It is noisy but nothing like I was expecting.  Its really not to bad.  With the agitator air cleaner, the intake flutter is pretty noticeable at idle.

As for the upgraded clutch, this is the one AIM makes for the slip and assist clutch.  Its the highest rated one for this model clutch, good for 155 torque.  I'm sure that is at the crank not rear wheel.  So it may or may not hold, we will see soon when it gets tuned.  Feel is not bad at all.  A little heavier pull than stock but not bad.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1047 on: July 20, 2016, 07:41:59 AM »

Joe and an Tore my motor down Thursday to install the 117 Cylinders.  13 hours over three days and its up and running.  Will be having it tuned next week.

117 HD cylinders
CP pistons, 10cc dome
Heads done by HD Street Performance
HPI 55 throttle body
5.2 injectors
AV & V 650 lift Beehive springs
Woods Alpha series lifters
Woods TW-9B-6 cam
Fullsac DX head pipe and 2.25 baffles.
AIM VDR clutch and heaviest springs













Welcome to the 117" Club!

Can't wait to see your results and thoughts.



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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1048 on: July 20, 2016, 12:27:19 PM »

I've got the same build as David and the cam is noisy compared to the SE259E. You are correct, it performs very well.

So is the consensus that the 259 is a quieter cam?

I'm not much on the valve train noise I already have.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1049 on: July 20, 2016, 01:18:50 PM »

So is the consensus that the 259 is a quieter cam?

I'm not much on the valve train noise I already have.
When I built the motor the first time using the SE259E with reduced spring pressure and using the Woods directional lifters it was quieter than the stock setup.
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