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[Texas 103]

Steve from TTS? My bike didn't have the stock MAP in it when it got tuned from Fullsac, another tuner that "tuned" it with an HD race tuner has it I suppose, but he isn't returning phone calls.

I guess I could just get HD to flash it then swap the files back to Fullsac's tune. It'll cost me a few but probably worth it.

Ah, got it!.. used a HD race tuner,, They ( Dealer)  can go right in and flash it back to the stock map, then you  save both maps  on a memory stick then just change them whenever. I can't remember on the HD tuner whether the " stock" Cal ID is retained or not. If the " stock " Cal ID was retained when  it was tuned..and they look at it with the Digital  Technician I think it is, no one will ever know..I believe they go by the Cal I.D on the map.     

[Jay Jr]

Has anyone ran customs pistons in the HD 4.125 cylinders yet? I'm about to have my heads ported and am on the fence to run a newly released Axtell CVO 4.125 drop-in and custom pistons yet am curious if anyone has had luck with the SE jugs...
Cams/ deck/ comp to be determined from there.

They all will require a unique dome/ milling to achieve my desired cold crank with 3 different cam routes. Lots of options all of the sudden!

[FLSTFI Dave]

Several on this thread are running pistons other than the Harley ones on there 117 builds.  Joe, and my self only used the Harley cylinders from the kit.  Im at 11.4 compression.

[yobtaf103]

Here is Dyno run sheet. Another to follow
Tedk

Thanks Tedk, real nice on 9.9 comp, SE58mm tb ?
Whats the drivability like, smooth?

[Tedk]

Yes, it does have a 58 to, and you are correct the drivability isn't great. At low speeds when you are not under much load it's pretty "lurchy" if that's a good way to describe it. At first it bothered me, now I don't even really notice it. Just had the lifters replaced and found the Fullsac head pipe cracked. Replaced it with a Hellbenders. Runs great

[YELLOWBIRD]

Yes, it does have a 58 to, and you are correct the drivability isn't great. At low speeds when you are not under much load it's pretty "lurchy" if that's a good way to describe it. At first it bothered me, now I don't even really notice it. Just had the lifters replaced and found the Fullsac head pipe cracked. Replaced it with a Hellbenders. Runs great

Where was the crack on the Fullsac X-Pipe?


YB

[Tedk]

The headpipe as it turns to hookup to the crossover. Seems to break because of the rigid mount of the crossover.

[Mano]

Don't want to highjack the thread but..... I too had a Fullsac header crack. It happened last July 3 days before my trip to Sturgis. I took it off and had it wielded. Has been on the bike since then with no problems so far.

[Mano]

Another.

[Mano]

Wielded.

[BostonboyDH]

 
    I thought there was a thread on here somewhere where Steve ssaid he was replacing some of these headers? Don't know if yours qualify might want to give him a lookup!!

[tim126]

Just purchased my first Harley and trying to digest as much information as possible here so bare with me. I ended up with a Low Rider S. My dealership is trying to convince me on the 117 kit for my bike, saying that if I get the kit installed within the first 60 days I can have it covered under my 2 year factory warranty. I wouldn't mind more power out of the bike, but I do like the way it sounds and engine runs stock. Just knowing myself I'll want more power after the first year. If I were to upgrade the motor with just the HD kit, will the driveability be similar to stock? I would probably have them dyno tune it as well instead of just running a factory map. Also would I have to upgrade the exhaust? I assume the stock exhaust will hold the 117 back a bit, but it's already going to be a huge bump in performance so I am ok with that. Just not sure if it would have any heat issues.

What do you guys think? Not looking to dive in any further then the kit and a tune, that should be enough to satisfy me. Just don't want the bike constantly in the shop

[timo482]

just fyi since you say you are new to harley

which engine? what year bike?

most dealers today are going to use a legal tune, to get a custom tune you will be going to a independent shop

warranty coverage on a new bike will be iffy at best with anything other than a canned legal tune

legally they can just deny the warranty on the engine if you do anything to it that is not legal parts. air cleaner, tunes, pipes, mufflers etc those types of parts. have to have the epa stamp on them or you will be on your own.

they just paid out a PILE of money in fines on the subject and it may be a while till they will try to be flexible.

again - its your bike - so this is just fyi

[tim126]

I just picked up a 2017 Low Rider S which has the 110 motor in it. The dealer said they would be using a dyno to complete the tuning, so I am guessing it's not just a canned tune. I'm not so much as worried about voiding the warranty because I understand they have to prove that any aftermarket component was the component at fault. I am more interested in getting the 117 kit added in to my factory 2 year warranty. Then I have two full years of coverage on that upgrade.

[timo482]

you will find you will need a lawyer to make that argument.

its all revolving around the recent consent decree settlement for  the motor company violation the clean air act.

they can tune in a range using the new street tuner - but thats it. everything else will void the engine warranty - the rest of the bike warranty will still be valid.

magnusson moss doesn't apply to "tampering" its subtle but valid.

the street legal upgrades are just fine,  in my case my bike is now 10 years old and just fine, no issues after the first 3 months. [knock on wood]   id did have a crack in the header pipe when it was four years old..

im not interested in telling folks what to do with there bike - but i have talked with new owners of new bikes having all kinds of performance work done and thinking there 7 year esp will shield them from mechanical costs, so when i hear "new owner" and "performance modifications" i say something.