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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1290 on: February 16, 2017, 02:00:38 PM »

Yeap, everything I see listed is about 400 per cylinder, which is on par I think, 400 per cylinder and 400 for pistons is 1200. Equals out to me. I'd like just the black cylinders myself.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1291 on: February 16, 2017, 02:20:04 PM »

What pistons you use? and you stay with the 259 cam, or is that a woods 999? nice numbers, I am about to install my kit. Went with Mahle pistons at 10.7 :1 and a .030"cometic. Should push me to 11:1. You have any head work done?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1292 on: February 16, 2017, 02:39:24 PM »

Does anyone know anything about the suburban speed 117 drop in kit with 6.6cc dome pistons.

http://www.suburbanharley.com/Wisconsin-Harley-Davidson-Service-Performance-Center--cylinder_kits
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1293 on: February 16, 2017, 04:35:04 PM »

Does anyone know anything about the suburban speed 117 drop in kit with 6.6cc dome pistons.

http://www.suburbanharley.com/Wisconsin-Harley-Davidson-Service-Performance-Center--cylinder_kits

SE cylinders with a really good high comp piston.
The way to go if the SE kit isn't enough, add your own heads, TB and cams.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1295 on: February 17, 2017, 01:06:03 AM »

If we're going to use higher-compression pistons, would it be cheaper to buy the kit and dump the included pistons, rings, etc., or would it be cheaper to buy the individual pieces (minus the HD pistons, etc.)?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1296 on: February 17, 2017, 06:02:57 AM »

I went the way of dumping the pistons. Now was waiting for the weather to cooperate to do tear down, that was until I seen barnhill's dyno and build. Needless to say some calls are being made to GMR today.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1297 on: February 17, 2017, 08:17:13 AM »

Yeap, everything I see listed is about 400 per cylinder, which is on par I think, 400 per cylinder and 400 for pistons is 1200. Equals out to me. I'd like just the black cylinders myself.
The only thing I used from HD on my build was the Black Cylinders.  I used CP 11.4 pistons.

If we're going to use higher-compression pistons, would it be cheaper to buy the kit and dump the included pistons, rings, etc., or would it be cheaper to buy the individual pieces (minus the HD pistons, etc.)?

For me it was best to just get the Cylinders.  Wanted different cam, beehive valve springs, better lifters and so on.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1298 on: February 17, 2017, 12:52:08 PM »

117 with Cobra True Duals and SVT Boneshakers

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1299 on: February 17, 2017, 02:25:14 PM »

The only thing I used from HD on my build was the Black Cylinders.  I used CP 11.4 pistons.

For me it was best to just get the Cylinders.  Wanted different cam, beehive valve springs, better lifters and so on.
That definitely seems like the way to go to get the benefit of the thin-wall spigots and combine them with the custom pieces you want.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1300 on: February 17, 2017, 08:27:24 PM »

Maybe someone here can clear this up. My googling so far finds that part no. shown on different sites as "1cyl, no description" while the sheet shown here indicates it's for both

The sheet you posted shows how many cylinders are included in the 117 SE kit (2), not how many are represented by the part number you posted (1).
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1301 on: February 18, 2017, 11:56:14 PM »

For compression what are the specs on the components of the kit? piston dome vol, head gasket, deck height (that most have seen), etc.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1302 on: February 19, 2017, 08:36:52 AM »

For compression what are the specs on the components of the kit? piston dome vol, head gasket, deck height (that most have seen), etc.

Mine HD kit started with the front .009 in the hole ,back .010 . If you go to  http://www.bigboyzheadporting.com/TwinCamComp.htm and start doing the math with a .045 head gasket and piston in the hole .010 it ain't real pretty. These need compression to make decent  power.

On mine We zero decked the cyls., milled heads  .020 for 92 cc, cometic .030 gasket. 2.120 intake valve , SE 585 cams.  static CR  is 10.6-1  Corrected 9.96-1. 208 CCP. My goal  is 125 squared with a nice "warranty" motor  HD warrenty's that kit for 1 year if HD dealer does work. I have an outstanding wrench that really  knows the tuning side also..   
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1303 on: February 19, 2017, 08:49:09 AM »

Mine HD kit started with the front .009 in the hole ,back .010 . If you go to  http://www.bigboyzheadporting.com/TwinCamComp.htm and start doing the math with a .045 head gasket and piston in the hole .010 it ain't real pretty. These need compression to make decent  power.

On mine We zero decked the cyls., milled heads  .020 for 92 cc, cometic .030 gasket. 2.120 intake valve , SE 585 cams.  static CR  is 10.6-1  Corrected 9.96-1. 208 CCP. My goal  is 125 squared with a nice "warranty" motor  HD warrenty's that kit for 1 year if HD dealer does work. I have an outstanding wrench that really  knows the tuning side also..   
What octane are you running?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1304 on: February 19, 2017, 11:32:26 AM »

What octane are you running?

Nothing special just 93 , built it to be a well mannered touring bike that can go anywhere. I'm right on the upper end of that scale. Because the squish is net .030  I should be good and be able to throw some timing at it 
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