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New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« on: January 27, 2016, 04:13:13 PM »

 Does anyone know why this new Zumo 590 unit will not work with the CVO touring bikes? I think this Harley Road Tech version of the 590 only came out a couple of weeks ago. I'd like to get it for my 2013 Road Glide Custom. I also saw the NIM module for the 660 will not work with my bike, (the parts manual singles out my my specific year and model) and me and my local dealership are not sure why? Maybe some of you tech savvy guys can explain it :nixweiss:

Here's the link for the new Zumo  http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/road-tech-zumo-590-navigation-system---domestic
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2016, 11:59:03 PM »

What is the benefit of the 590 over the 660?
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 07:46:13 AM »

What is the benefit of the 590 over the 660?

Here's a list of the features. I really like the twisty road feature. It's also supposed to be more readable in the sunlight and also have a glove friendly touch screen

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2016, 09:53:16 AM »

I wonder if it includes the lifetime maps like the generic Zumo does.

I also see they don't list the TPMS but it would be nice if it worked.

Does it have the radio interrupt (NIM) like the older Harley Zumos.

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2016, 01:12:19 PM »

That's a good point about the lifetime maps. I don't see a LM anywhere in the description. For $800 it should include free map updates :nixweiss:
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 02:03:56 PM »

That's a good point about the lifetime maps. I don't see a LM anywhere in the description. For $800 it should include free map updates :nixweiss:

For $800 it should include a bluetooth connection to my shorts for a friendly rub while riding.  Compared to what other completely competent GPS units cost nowadays these things are outrageous.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2016, 03:52:30 PM »

For $800 it should include a bluetooth connection to my shorts for a friendly rub while riding.  Compared to what other completely competent GPS units cost nowadays these things are outrageous.

Ummm...just a little too much sharing there....

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2016, 04:23:34 PM »

For $800 it should include a bluetooth connection to my shorts for a friendly rub while riding.  Compared to what other completely competent GPS units cost nowadays these things are outrageous.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 05:02:59 PM »

Ummm...just a little too much sharing there....

 :oops: :nixweiss:

Not for $800 it's not!   :huepfenlol2:
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 08:01:42 PM »

The HD part description states "590LM". This means lifetime maps, so there. Also this thing is $620.00 at all the 20% off stores, and they are out there, so still alot, but waterproof, increased vibration tolerance, inc the HD store database, you can operate with a glove (??) has all the stuff so you can use it in your car, a home charger etc and is very easy to update and works with the NIM. I had a 660 Road Tech on my SERG, I paid $560 with discount and used it for 4+ years and sold it for $475 so it only cost about $25/year and it was worth that.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2016, 11:45:12 PM »

Looking up a regular Garmin 590LM it has the TPMS option but I don't see that listed on the HD site. I did search the web on pricing on a regular 590 and couldn't find any deals out there. 20% off the HD version looks to be a deal for that model. I want to make sure first though that it does come with the TPMS feature. Anyone have that info? Also would it fit on the 660 cradle? If not would you have to pull new wires?
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2016, 03:04:34 AM »

1bad,

That link shows this GPS doesn't work with the '14 and later CVO baggers, which I believe is b/c they have the Infotainment system with GPS already in it.  I haven't seen the parts manual that restricts the 590 on your model, so can't comment.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 10:08:13 AM »

not sure what benefit to road tech vs basic 590 zumo from Garmin

no mention of dealer POIs or NIM functionality.


garmin version does have lifetime maps.


i do like the bigger screen then my 660 and the improved media capabilities. never been happy with the IPOD interface of the HK.

pandora control is also a nice touch.

this also looks interesting

Ride Smarter with Your Smartphone
What’s happening on the road ahead? zūmo 590LM can connect you to live weather radar and traffic information via the Smartphone Link app (subscription required).
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2016, 10:38:56 AM »

When the Zumo 590 came out I took a serious look at it.  From what I can find, it is hard to find a discount on the internet for one.  I am sure Garmin has a MAP (minimum advertised price) set on them.

If it is possible to pick on up from a 20% off HD dealer, that would handily beat any other price I have seen.

When I read the blurb on the HD site, I did miss the fact they stated it as a 590LM.  I was surprised it was not a highlighted feature.  I know LM are a big deal to me.

I am sure that they don't list this a being compatible with infotainment bikes because they want you to think that the infotainment GPS is superior.

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2016, 10:08:07 PM »

I ordered the 590 today but still can't get an answer to whether or not the HD version has the upgradable TPMS option or not. Dealer did not know either because they haven't got one yet. I made it clear that if it did not have that I would not purchase which they were ok with. I can't imagine the HD version wouldn't have what the regular Zumo 590 would have but if anyone knows for sure please share. Also trying to figure out if I will have to change the cradle?
I will say I have reaserched the regular 590LM and it really has some great features. The big reason I am stepping up is the "twisty roads" option that I love. I am VERY directionally challenged and use my GPS almost every time I ride (can barely find my way home without it even in my car..) and am hoping to find new roads where I usually ride.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2016, 09:01:21 AM »

I ordered the 590 today but still can't get an answer to whether or not the HD version has the upgradable TPMS option or not. Dealer did not know either because they haven't got one yet. I made it clear that if it did not have that I would not purchase which they were ok with. I can't imagine the HD version wouldn't have what the regular Zumo 590 would have but if anyone knows for sure please share. Also trying to figure out if I will have to change the cradle?
I will say I have reaserched the regular 590LM and it really has some great features. The big reason I am stepping up is the "twisty roads" option that I love. I am VERY directionally challenged and use my GPS almost every time I ride (can barely find my way home without it even in my car..) and am hoping to find new roads where I usually ride.

I would be interested in what you find out about this unit.  Does it have the NIM and TPMS?  I am sure they are depreciating the NIM but it would still be nice.

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2016, 02:57:50 PM »

For $800 it should include a bluetooth connection to my shorts for a friendly rub while riding.  Compared to what other completely competent GPS units cost nowadays these things are outrageous.

WOW....who sells and where can I get some of those Bluetooth shorts!! :pepper:
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2016, 03:22:46 PM »

I would be interested in what you find out about this unit.  Does it have the NIM and TPMS?  I am sure they are depreciating the NIM but it would still be nice.

 :oops: :nixweiss:
The NIM is still a separate item if you want to hear the turn prompts through your speakers. I'll let everyone know about TPSM when I pick it up and read through the manual.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2016, 11:05:25 PM »

I got a hold of the EOM specific division of Garmin that handles the Road Tech version (after getting passed around for a half an hour) and he told me that it did have the TPMS option. It does not fit on the 660 cradle so I will have to replace. I will install next week and post after.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2016, 11:49:42 AM »

Has anybody checked the 20% off dealers?  I was wondering if Rebbecca at Tri-State was still wheeling and dealing.

The NIM would be nice but not a show stopper.  The LM and TPMS is a requirement for me.

I added an aftermarket TPMS to my truck and gooseneck (34') trailer.  The TPMS save my butt twice.  Once when I blew out a tire on the trailer pulling into a gas station in Pecos, TX.  The other time running through Charlotte, NC when a rubber valve stem wore through on the truck and I got a fast leak during rush hour.  Both times I was able to take care of it before I was tooling down the road and damage happened.

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2016, 01:47:32 PM »

And you may like one of these.

http://www.motogps.com.au/touratech-garmin-zumo-590-lm-lockable-handlebar-mount-clear/

Didn't see anywhere (perhaps I just missed it) any spec for handlebar diameter that mount was intended for.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2016, 10:38:09 PM »

I just picked up the Road Tech 590 today and it does not have the TPMS option. I called Garmin back and told them that I called them before I purchased and they told me it did have it but they now said that they made a mistake and are offering me a refund which the dealer is as well. it also is not a "lm" so I assume it does not come with updates either. Really bummed out but not much I can do about it other than return it. While playing with it today trying to find the TPMD option I did see how cool it is though and will probably just end up keeping it. Garmin also offered exchanging it for a regular 590LM which would solve both the update and TPMS issue which I have to think about because I love the "go to local HD dealerships" feature that one comes on the Road Tech (though I get its not that hard to search under POIs) and the 2 yr warranty instead of the 1 yr that comes on the standard Garmin. I have been using the Fobo TPMS system for a while now and really like that I can check my pressure by just walking by my bike so there is that..
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2016, 04:03:41 AM »

I use a Garmin Zumo 590LM with their TPMS sensors and they will work great.

Many of our Chapter members did go for this combination and all are very pleased.

As I'm one of the Road Captains within our Chapter we will use Basecamp (for MAC) to define and planing our Trips and all tracks are interchangeable.

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2016, 07:29:43 AM »

I just picked up the Road Tech 590 today and it does not have the TPMS option. I called Garmin back and told them that I called them before I purchased and they told me it did have it but they now said that they made a mistake and are offering me a refund which the dealer is as well. it also is not a "lm" so I assume it does not come with updates either. Really bummed out but not much I can do about it other than return it. While playing with it today trying to find the TPMD option I did see how cool it is though and will probably just end up keeping it. Garmin also offered exchanging it for a regular 590LM which would solve both the update and TPMS issue which I have to think about because I love the "go to local HD dealerships" feature that one comes on the Road Tech (though I get its not that hard to search under POIs) and the 2 yr warranty instead of the 1 yr that comes on the standard Garmin. I have been using the Fobo TPMS system for a while now and really like that I can check my pressure by just walking by my bike so there is that..

since you have a 2012, it is easy enough to run an aux cable into the aux in to hear turn by turn directions.  I'm assuming that you'll load up the 590 with your own music.  I think the tpms and lm options are big enough to return the roadtech unit and get the garmin one.
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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2016, 08:12:19 AM »

Here is the description from the HD website:
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The road ahead is easy to see on a 5" dual-orientation touchscreen display that is glove friendly and sunlight readable – you'll find it on the rough and rugged zumo 590LM premium GPS motorcycle navigator. Tough enough to withstand the brutal elements and the harsh weather conditions, zumo 590LM offers hands-free phone control and spoken directions heard in-helmet via Bluetooth® technology. Zumo includes an MP3 player and works with iPod and Pandora for music control right on its display.
Bright sunlight readable high resolution display
SmartPhone Link - Enables the customer to access basic weather, local search, and LIVE Tracker
Active Lane Guidance, exit services and PhotoReal junction views
Curvy Road/Round Trip Feature
Media Player- Integrated iPod® control with MP3 player
Pandora Music Player
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2016, 10:32:32 AM »

Thank you SDCVO for you update on this.  I emailed Jon @ Horny Toad HD and he was willing to give a 10% discount and I was about to pull the trigger on it. 

It is a real bummer that they do not include the TPMS option.  I realize that you have to purchase the sensors separately, but having that ability would be really nice.  This must be why the HD version is $100 less then the Garmin model.

I know that HD lists the device as a Zumo 590LM, but as far as LM goes, I see that HD does not list that as a feature in their descriptions for any of their currently listed Zumo's so I am suspect if it is there.  In this day and age (and at this price) LM should be included with the GPS (along with that little device Twolanerider was asking about).

 :oops: :nixweiss:

As a PS -- you will note that HD lists the product as a Road Tech Zumo 590 Navigation System - Domestic and not the 590LM.  When I search for a Garmin model it always comes up as a 590LM.




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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2016, 11:01:14 AM »

When I purchased the Road Tech 660 at the beginning of last year for my 2015 CVO it was not listed as a 660LM but when received the actual model number on the device was a 'LM' and indeed has lifetime maps, updated periodically thru the garmin webupdater on my computer.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2016, 12:58:06 AM »

I installed it today and got to say it is very cool. Incredibly fast and all the new features are great. Still wish it had the TPMS option but love everything else.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2016, 08:04:05 AM »

I installed it today and got to say it is very cool. Incredibly fast and all the new features are great. Still wish it had the TPMS option but love everything else.

Did it come with LM?

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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2016, 09:57:31 AM »

Did it come with LM?

 :oops: :nixweiss:

I just picked up the Road Tech 590 today and it does not have the TPMS option. I called Garmin back and told them that I called them before I purchased and they told me it did have it but they now said that they made a mistake and are offering me a refund which the dealer is as well. it also is not a "lm"
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2016, 12:09:52 PM »

I just picked up the Road Tech 590 today and it does not have the TPMS option. I called Garmin back and told them that I called them before I purchased and they told me it did have it but they now said that they made a mistake and are offering me a refund which the dealer is as well. it also is not a "lm" so I assume it does not come with updates either. Really bummed out but not much I can do about it other than return it. While playing with it today trying to find the TPMD option I did see how cool it is though and will probably just end up keeping it. Garmin also offered exchanging it for a regular 590LM which would solve both the update and TPMS issue which I have to think about because I love the "go to local HD dealerships" feature that one comes on the Road Tech (though I get its not that hard to search under POIs) and the 2 yr warranty instead of the 1 yr that comes on the standard Garmin. I have been using the Fobo TPMS system for a while now and really like that I can check my pressure by just walking by my bike so there is that..

I went to read the discription on HD web site on the Roadtech 590 and it is indicated in the discription that it is a LM version...
I then went to the owners manual and it also describes it being the LM model
on page 2 in the owners manual it states if the model you have has a LM followed then it is supposed to be available for the LM maps...
There certainly seems to be a screw up here and needs some attention...
For the money for this GPS it should come with all the bells and whistles in which its bigger brother has...
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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2016, 01:30:27 PM »

HD description on their website is misleading.  It states that it is a zumo 590LM as mentioned before but, it is not.  It is missing the key features of LM and TPMS.

Maybe they should change the description to almost like a zumo 590LM, or something like:

Since the TPMS' just does not look right on our bikes, we removed this feature as not to distract from the design detail we put into the bikes.  We also removed the LM so we could sell you the maps afterward and increase our bottom line (our falling sales have been hurting us of late).


It looks like they did not put any attention to detail like others have mentioned.

I apologize for ranting about this.  I was really looking forward to picking one up and am frustrated with what others are reporting.

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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2016, 02:30:31 PM »

I to was looking to picking one up as well
Most discouraging though that HD has been misleading in there product's discription
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2016, 03:04:09 PM »

It would seem I have nothing better to do with my time but to address this 590LM so I called garmin and spoke with them to find out what they had to say about whether ot not the LM was a feature with the RoadTech version...

Got transferred to the OEM department with Garmin and spoke to a Nick there and he was 99.9% assured that the device did indeed come with LM's however the TPMS was NOT a feature with this unit...
He then looked up the part number for HD and said again it did come with LM's and again he was very attimite about the unit having the LM's...
He called the help desk to confirm as to whether or not and playing the devils advocate here "what if the device did not come with the LM's" what was my recourse...He added to my account that we had this conversation and IF the unit did not have them that Garmin would Gift them to me to cover the LM's feature...

For me this may be what I was seeking to make the purchase...
The TPSM was not a deal breaker feature but the LM's were going to be even if I was to get the 20% savings by ordering one and then having a additional cost of $89.99 would offset so much I would order from Garmin...
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2016, 09:51:40 PM »

Texas Bow Hunter, thanks for taking the time to update us on the lifetime maps. Mine just came in and I picked it up today. I'm currently running all the updates on it which takes three hours. It didn't come with a manual, just a quick start guide that shows you how to put the battery in and prompts you to go to the Garmin website to register and update it. That's as far as I got tonight. I'll download the manual tomorrow off the website and hopefully know more and update this post.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2016, 11:30:41 PM »

Going back and forth with Garmin for the last few days I know know this for sure.. It does not come with the TPMS option but does come with the lifetime maps. They did offer to return my money but now I love the unit though another issue has come up.
I use my phone though a USB cord to my Kenwood head unit. My 665 got weather and traffic though XM, the 590 gets it through a app you install on your phone. When I am synced with the 590 and plug my phone (iPhone) in I can not listen to Pandora or iPod because phone says "can only use 1 accessory at a time" so I have to either listen to Pandora or iPod through bluetooth which does not sound as good as when wired in or not have traffic or weather on the 590.
This whole deal has really become a PIA though I still say the 590 is a great GPS unit with its features for navigating which I keep reminding myself is its main use. I just hate when all "my stuff" doesn't work! When I called Garmin (again !) they offered to give me a full refund but after using the 590 for a couple of days I would be pissed going back to my 665 without the features I have been playing with.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2016, 12:23:57 PM »

Going to get of the subject for a moment here

I am currently running a Zumo 550 and have been satisfied with it thus far...
I have the Zumo chord ran from the port on the side to the AUX on the Harmon Karmon...
I have tunes loaded on the SD card and have the Radio in the AUX mod so I can get prompts from GPS while listening to my tunes in which I have loaded on SD card...

If I go to the 590 will I retain this feature?
or will I require a NIM module?
If Im out on a trip Im not listening to the radio FM stations
I dont have XM
I do have the HDPDIPOD but the same music is on the Ipod as the SD card...
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2016, 02:59:07 PM »

Going to get of the subject for a moment here

I am currently running a Zumo 550 and have been satisfied with it thus far...
I have the Zumo chord ran from the port on the side to the AUX on the Harmon Karmon...
I have tunes loaded on the SD card and have the Radio in the AUX mod so I can get prompts from GPS while listening to my tunes in which I have loaded on SD card...

If I go to the 590 will I retain this feature?
or will I require a NIM module?

If Im out on a trip Im not listening to the radio FM stations
I dont have XM
I do have the HDPDIPOD but the same music is on the Ipod as the SD card...
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I didn't have time to read through it all but here's the link to the manual for anyone that's interested.
http://static.garmin.com/pumac/zumo_590_OM_EN.pdf
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2016, 10:48:58 PM »

Going to get of the subject for a moment here

I am currently running a Zumo 550 and have been satisfied with it thus far...
I have the Zumo chord ran from the port on the side to the AUX on the Harmon Karmon...
I have tunes loaded on the SD card and have the Radio in the AUX mod so I can get prompts from GPS while listening to my tunes in which I have loaded on SD card...

If I go to the 590 will I retain this feature?
or will I require a NIM module?
If Im out on a trip Im not listening to the radio FM stations
I dont have XM
I do have the HDPDIPOD but the same music is on the Ipod as the SD card...
Thanks
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I am pretty sure what you currently do will work with the 590 as it has a media player that works on either Pandora from your phone or you can install a card with your music on it. Only thing I will tell you is to research yourself to whether or not it will work and don't depend on what Garmin tells you.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2016, 05:39:37 PM »

Has anybody confirmed 100% that the 590 will work with the NIM?
On the fence here with purchase and NIM functionality is a big plus towards pulling the trigger.

I assume the connections xfer over from a 660/665, not counting the mount cradle of course.
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Re: New Harley Roadtech Zumo 590
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2016, 02:18:30 AM »

Has anybody confirmed 100% that the 590 will work with the NIM?
On the fence here with purchase and NIM functionality is a big plus towards pulling the trigger.

I assume the connections xfer over from a 660/665, not counting the mount cradle of course.
I do not use the NIM but when I asked Garmin about swapping the Road Tech 590 to the regular 590 they said the cradle was different between the 2 because the Road Tech version was set up to integrate with the NIM. Still not 100% but pretty close
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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2016, 01:28:20 PM »

I do not use the NIM but when I asked Garmin about swapping the Road Tech 590 to the regular 590 they said the cradle was different between the 2 because the Road Tech version was set up to integrate with the NIM. Still not 100% but pretty close

So the cradle is different for the Road Tech 590 and the 660/665 but the RT 590 cradle is setup to use the NIM?

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« Reply #43 on: February 29, 2016, 01:46:58 AM »

So the cradle is different for the Road Tech 590 and the 660/665 but the RT 590 cradle is setup to use the NIM?

Do I have that correct?
first part about the cradle being different on the RT 590 I know for a fact to  be true, as far as setup to use the NIM, thats what Garmin told me. I use a Kenwood head unit so don't use the NIM myself.
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« Reply #44 on: February 29, 2016, 08:48:09 AM »

Cool ... sounds safe enough to order.
Bummer about the TPMS feature though. 

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« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2016, 10:14:44 AM »

I love the "go to local HD dealerships" feature that one comes on the Road Tech

Adding that to the normal Zumo 590 is simple.  Works and appears just the same.
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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2016, 03:30:18 PM »

Has anybody confirmed 100% that the 590 will work with the NIM?
On the fence here with purchase and NIM functionality is a big plus towards pulling the trigger.

I assume the connections xfer over from a 660/665, not counting the mount cradle of course.
Getting closer to answering your question.  Not exactly what you asked, but...

I just finished installing my rt z590 on my '15 FLHTK with the boom! Head unit.  I had this set up for my 660 with tone interrupt since new, and the z590 DOES interrupt the radio to announce route guidance.

Also, when I was registering and updating the unit when I bought it, everything seemed to set up like a lifetime maps unit.  I guess we'll know for sure when they announce the next set of maps.
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« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2016, 03:56:56 PM »

Has anybody checked the 20% off dealers?  I was wondering if Rebbecca at Tri-State was still wheeling and dealing.

The NIM would be nice but not a show stopper.  The LM and TPMS is a requirement for me.

I added an aftermarket TPMS to my truck and gooseneck (34') trailer.  The TPMS save my butt twice.  Once when I blew out a tire on the trailer pulling into a gas station in Pecos, TX.  The other time running through Charlotte, NC when a rubber valve stem wore through on the truck and I got a fast leak during rush hour.  Both times I was able to take care of it before I was tooling down the road and damage happened.

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  Just ordered a 590 from Rebecca.  It was 15% off rather than 20%.  Said the margin was less on this item was the reason.
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« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2016, 10:15:00 PM »


  Just ordered a 590 from Rebecca.  It was 15% off rather than 20%.  Said the margin was less on this item was the reason.

This is what Horny Toad H-D quoted me:
That GPS would be $719.95 shipped.

Which works out be about 10%.

The deal breaker for me is the lack of a TPMS.  If they had that would hop on that in a minute.

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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2016, 07:40:46 PM »

With the release of 2017.2 maps, I attempted to update my rt z590 for the first time.  I gave me the option to purchase a lifetime or one time upgrade.  So, I emailed Garmin customer service to inquire.  I received the following reply:

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Thank you for contacting Garmin International. I will be happy to address your question about Lifetime maps and your Harley zumo 590LM.

There was a small batch of these devices that did get out the door before the Lifetime subscription could be attached. In order to correct this issue, we will need to send you a Lifetime Gift card, with the activation product key on the back. This will allow you to add that subscription after the fact.

I would like to ask you to reply to this email with your complete mailing address, so I can confirm your address on file, and we don't send this to an old address.

Name:
Phone Number (for Package):
Address:

Once I get this information, we will set up the order and get this card to you. You may also call us on our direct Harley/Garmin phone line, 1-800-408-7419 to set this up, and ask further questions if you would like.

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« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2016, 12:34:30 AM »

I just tried to update mine and it did the same thing trying to sell me the update. Emailed them. PIA!
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« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2016, 02:03:32 PM »

Does anyone know if the faring mount 92238-09 works with the Zumo 590?  The fitment for the 590 says you need this for faring mounting....but the description for 92238-09 says only for 660 & 665 gps's

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« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2016, 02:43:04 PM »

that kit should allow the mounting of almost any GPS that uses the standard AMPS pattern
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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2016, 12:15:09 AM »

Thanks BigLew, I am such a idiot I probably would have paid for the lifetime upgrade since the box it came in does not say "LM" on it. I called them today and they sent me a gift card for the lifetime maps. You da man!
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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2016, 08:04:45 AM »

Thanks BigLew, I am such a idiot I probably would have paid for the lifetime upgrade since the box it came in does not say "LM" on it. I called them today and they sent me a gift card for the lifetime maps. You da man!

I planned to do the same thing, but probably wait until later in the year.  Then I decided it was free to ask. 

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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2016, 09:57:14 AM »

I'm going to add some confusion, but also some useful info. First: I don't have a 590. What I'm adding below is ALL in reference to the 665 unit, and MAY be helpful in relation to 590 but I don't know for certain; YMMV. Here's what I learned.

I recently installed a Zumo 665LM on my 2010 Ultra, adding the dash pad mount. Mine is not the Road Tech, it is the regular Garmin Zumo, so, no dealer POIs and no bar and shield logo. Also, no NIM functionality.

Second, despite what you'll be told by people who assume, there IS a difference in the software in the Road tech version.The software for the Harley  unit 'enables' the operation of the NIM. The regular Zumo 665 will NOT work with the NIM. I had to ask a lot of questions of a lot of people and pretty much everyone got it wrong, assuming it would work. I was actually on the phone with a tech at Garmin who ended up getting straightened out by one of their engineers on this point.
I really wanted to do the NIM, NOT because I really needed its function but because I wanted my install to be exactly as capable as my buddy's factory install. I had to give up on the NIM, though.

Third, if you do the NIM with the Road Tech, installed as the factory does it, you lose use of the AUX jack on the HK radio. There IS a work around for this, but it's quite involved, and , again, not the way the factory does it.
Oh, also, the NIM is a separate purchase, not included with the Road Tech.

Fourth, Ultimately, the NIM function is not a biggie to me because I use a Sena BlueTooth headset for everything. I only rarely turn on the bike's speakers, so its not an issue.
I use a Sena SM10 transmitter to send the HK's output to BT and I also BT the Zumo and my iPhone all to the headset.
The headset usage (in my case) eliminates the need for the NIM, anyway.

But what the heck is this NIM?
 The function of the Navigation Interface Module is very specific and quite limited: it hooks up to the Road Tech and the radio, including its AUX port. When the Road Tech sends a NAV instruction (Turn By Turn voice), the software in the Road Tech triggers the NIM to 'take over' the radio output so that you'll get your Turn By Turn prompts through the speakers, regardless of which band of the radio you happen to be listening to.
Note that **that's ALL it does**. It won't give you TBT if the radio is off. It won't give you TBT *loudly* if the radio is turned down.
It WON'T send your media or XM through the radio, (using the NIM) you have to switch the HK to AUX for that. The NIM has *nothing* to do with music or media.
The NIM really doesn't possess much magic... if you DON'T have a Road Tech version or DON"T have a NIM, you'd still be able to plug the GPS into the AUX port and hear it that way, but you'd have to chose between listening for the GPS OR listening to the radio.
You could also NOT hook it to the AUX port... just listen to the GPS's own speaker...or pair it with a headset as I do.

Maybe something helpful in there.
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