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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 09:01:26 AM »

The various laws of thermodynamics don't work that way.  Increasing the volume might make it take just a little longer for that oil volume to reach whatever is the max temp your system is forcing it to.  Increasing the volume doesn't lower that system produced temp though.

But...but...but, it says "Screamin' Eagle" on it.  Doesn't that make it "cooler"...... :huepfenlol2: ;D :nervous: :2vrolijk_21:

To the OP....I'm not poking fun atcha drg....just having a bit-o-fun in general...
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2018, 11:38:48 AM »

The only benefit I think a bigger oil pan would be is to help deaerate the oil in other words help get the air out of the oil before it gets back to the pick up tube

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That and the extra air volume helps with fluctuation of crank case pressure.   
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 10:21:25 PM »

I have the SE pan on my 120R.

It holds the advertised additional oil, so oil changes go from 3.5 to 5 quarts.

It takes longer for the oil to get to temp, however once there, it works just like a normal oil pan.

From a purist standpoint it changes very little, however can say, oil temp is very stable.

I can ride all day and oil temp rarely moves more than 5 degrees plus or minus.

I've seen 20 plus degree fluctuations with a normal pan and less oil

So, I somewhat agree it's mostly just a cost, but it does have a few benefits, stable oil temp being one.

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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2018, 07:13:08 AM »

I have this Baker unit. Not sure if other oil pans work this way, but the routing of the oil seems to make sense as far as cooling. I just don't have a way to monitor oil temps unless I get a digital dip stick.

https://bakerdrivetrain.com/products/1-5-oil-pan
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2018, 04:18:57 PM »

If you don`t fancy the "love jugs"  cooling fans to cool the engine at source,  then take a look at the "oil Bud" oil cooler, gets very good reviews.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2018, 05:44:00 PM »

Oil bud is top notch.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2018, 03:37:30 AM »

Baker says their pan "was designed to lower engine oil temperature by using a larger volume of oil to carry heat away from the hot engine.

The problem with this statement?  The amount (volume) of oil going through a component doesn't change just because there's a larger reservoir of oil.

Yes, the size and design of the Baker pan might help cool the oil more than a regular pan, but there's a reason our air-cooled bikes have an oil cooler, and it's out where it gets hit by the outside air.  The OP noted the pan won't help much in stop n go, and the regular oil cooler doesn't do much either--unless it has a fan on it to move air through the cooler.  And the fan solutions are much cheaper.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2018, 11:58:58 AM »

If you're running a 120R or 124", or bigger, obviously 5 qts. is better than 3.5.  Other than that, it would appear one has more money than sense.  There endeth the lesson.  Later--HUBBARD
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2018, 12:58:10 PM »

it would appear one has more money than sense.  There endeth the lesson.  Later--HUBBARD

More money than sense?  This is the type of passive aggressive comment that make me have to ask.  This is a CVO forum, right?  Insert something about stones and glass houses, here.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2018, 03:12:48 PM »

More money than sense?  This is the type of passive aggressive comment that make me have to ask.  This is a CVO forum, right?  Insert something about stones and glass houses, here.

  From memories accrued from a most liberal psychology professor, of which I might add I had the most unpleasant experience to make acquaintance and tolerate, many decades past, I would conclude you currently define the passive aggressive tendency I possess, as a platitude.  Of which sir, you are correct.  I am a smart-ass of the first order.  This defect, or attribute in many circumstances, I possess has relieved me of countless conversations that may have otherwise ended unresolved.  Some even walk off saying, "you can't talk to him!"  LMAO!  There endeth the lesson.         
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2018, 08:33:46 PM »

  From memories accrued from a most liberal psychology professor, of which I might add I had the most unpleasant experience to make acquaintance and tolerate, many decades past, I would conclude you currently define the passive aggressive tendency I possess, as a platitude.  Of which sir, you are correct.  I am a smart-ass of the first order.  This defect, or attribute in many circumstances, I possess has relieved me of countless conversations that may have otherwise ended unresolved.  Some even walk off saying, "you can't talk to him!"  LMAO!  There endeth the lesson.       

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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2018, 10:05:40 PM »

I tip my hat to you Sir Donald, as you possess the most sacred dialect of our English language.  Some of which I had the unmitigated pleasure to enthrall in the Great State of Arkansas!  To which none other here will ever have the slightest thought of mind or dream to acknowledge.  But I did.  And it will ever remain in my living brain.  You did what trained and hardened experienced men that I paid good money too, did not produce or prevail.  But you did, and in short order, too!  You're the man, 2Lane!  My dear Ol' departed Pappy told me if I was ever in a position to commend someone for a job well done, I should always do that.  You done good, 2Lane, and I will never forget it.  And it's nobody's business what it was, but it sure got me out of a bind. Again, Thank you, Brother!  Hope to see you somewhere on the Big Road!  Later--HUBBARD
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2018, 11:16:31 PM »

I tip my hat to you Sir Donald, as you possess the most sacred dialect of our English language.  Some of which I had the unmitigated pleasure to enthrall in the Great State of Arkansas!  To which none other here will ever have the slightest thought of mind or dream to acknowledge.  But I did.  And it will ever remain in my living brain.  You did what trained and hardened experienced men that I paid good money too, did not produce or prevail.  But you did, and in short order, too!  You're the man, 2Lane!  My dear Ol' departed Pappy told me if I was ever in a position to commend someone for a job well done, I should always do that.  You done good, 2Lane, and I will never forget it.  And it's nobody's business what it was, but it sure got me out of a bind. Again, Thank you, Brother!  Hope to see you somewhere on the Big Road!  Later--HUBBARD

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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2019, 12:07:21 PM »

The only benefit I think a bigger oil pan would be is to help deaerate the oil in other words help get the air out of the oil before it gets back to the pick up tube

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 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

ALSO

I have seen blackstone tests on a bike with and without the +1.5 pan and the extra oil lasts much longer and breaks down slower due to the extra volume apparently...

FWIW, Just a thought.



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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2019, 04:18:23 PM »

:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

ALSO

I have seen blackstone tests on a bike with and without the +1.5 pan and the extra oil lasts much longer and breaks down slower due to the extra volume apparently...

FWIW, Just a thought.

So you could in theory extend your oil change mileage intervals by a small amount.  How much exactly, and how many years of oil changes will it take for the small difference in change intervals to pay for the cost of that oil pan?  Don't forget, you also have to factor in the cost of an extra 1.5 quarts of oil for each change.  If you are like the vast majority you will still just change the oil at the specified 5000 mile intervals, so there will be no savings but there will still be the extra cost for the extra 1.5 quarts at each change.

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