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CVO Technical => Twin Cam => Topic started by: HD Street Performance on February 13, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
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This build is pretty plain vanilla. The heads flow 235 average with 316 peak average exhaust flow is 73%.
All of the equipment is listed on the sheet.
The red dyno run is with the SE 259E cams, Fullsac x-pipe and 4 " Rineharts. The Blue run is after changing the heads, pistons, Jackpot x-pipe and HPI 55MM TB.
Seems to do real well and still pulling on the top.
edit: rem comment on injectors, inline text explains
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This build is pretty plain vanilla. The heads flow 235 average with 316 peak average exhaust flow is 73%.
All of the equipment is listed on the sheet.
The red dyno run is with the SE 259E cams, Fullsac x-pipe and 4 " Rineharts. The Blue run is after changing the heads, pistons, Jackpot x-pipe and HPI 55MM TB. Docs comment was the injectors were a little too large may be costing low end torque.
Seems to do real well and still pulling on the top.
Do you know the reason for changing the X pipes? Fullsac X pipe to the Jackpot X pipe :nixweiss:
JW
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No clue, sorry
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Do you know the reason for changing the X pipes? Fullsac X pipe to the Jackpot X pipe :nixweiss:
JW
I know the owner of that bike. Was at Docs with him when it was tuned the first time with the cam, fullsac x-pipe and rhineharts. The Jackpot X pipe comes with a 2nd 02 bung on each pipe closer to the Head, makes for more accurate tuning. The Jackpot according to what I remember Doc saying will flow a little better on a bike with worked heads more compression.
I am seriously thinking of doing the same to my bike, if that is going to be a reliable build for putting 14K miles a year on.
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What is the cost of the headwork above? What cams are stock in the 110? Does the TB need to be changed?
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Were these the HPI 5.3gps injectors. If so was Doc indicating using what injectors?
The reason I'm asking is my heads on my 09 110 kit are being set up for the Crane 296-2 cam set SE 10.5 pistons and the HPI 55mm throttle body to 58mm manifold with the 5.3 injectors.
Thanks
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Were these the HPI 5.3gps injectors. If so was Doc indicating using what injectors?
The reason I'm asking is my heads on my 09 110 kit are being set up for the Crane 296-2 cam set SE 10.5 pistons and the HPI 55mm throttle body to 58mm manifold with the 5.3 injectors.
Thanks
These are the SE 5.3 injectors and actually the injectors worked out fine for my build.
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What is the cost of the headwork above? What cams are stock in the 110? Does the TB need to be changed?
The heads were done by Head Designs by Dewey. His member name is Deweysheads so I would contact him if you have any questions about the head work.
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Nice job on the build, gotta be a lot of fun. Isnt that Joe's Skunk?
Wasn't that the original pipe from Fullsac not the new "B" version I think its called on the original build. Doc told me he likes the new Fullsac B version. Don't know if it comes iwth the 2nd bungs, but if not maybe Steve can add them for everyone :nixweiss:
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Nice job on the build, gotta be a lot of fun. Isnt that Joe's Skunk?
Wasn't that the original pipe from Fullsac not the new "B" version I think its called on the original build. Doc told me he likes the new Fullsac B version. Don't know if it comes iwth the 2nd bungs, but if not maybe Steve can add them for everyone :nixweiss:
Yep it's mine.
Doc told me that Steve is now making the larger diameter x-pipe with the dual position 02 sensor locations. It wasn't available when I decided to do the mods so I just ordered the pipe from Fuelmoto.
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Thanks, Very nice by the way :2vrolijk_21:
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Wasn't that the original pipe from Fullsac not the new "B" version I think its called on the original build. Doc told me he likes the new Fullsac B version. Don't know if it comes iwth the 2nd bungs, but if not maybe Steve can add them for everyone :nixweiss:
Had not heard of a "new" version. I'd be interested in more information! Have to give Steve a call.
JW
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Yep it's mine.
Doc told me that Steve is now making the larger diameter x-pipe with the dual position 02 sensor locations. It wasn't available when I decided to do the mods so I just ordered the pipe from Fuelmoto.
You can request a pipe with both sets of O2 bungs from Steve.
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So the change is the O2 bungs?
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Should be fun to ride
couple of questions
how much did it cost to go from red to blue?
is that much worth only 9 torque and 12hp?
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Should be fun to ride
couple of questions
how much did it cost to go from red to blue?
is that much worth only 9 torque and 12hp?
It cost about 2300$ and the actual change in numbers are 8tq and 15hp. Yes to me it is worth it. This bike is my hot rod and the cams just didn't have enough for me. The difference in the "seat of the pants power" of the new build is very noticeable.
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I know the owner of that bike. Was at Docs with him when it was tuned the first time with the cam, fullsac x-pipe and rhineharts. The Jackpot X pipe comes with a 2nd 02 bung on each pipe closer to the Head, makes for more accurate tuning. The Jackpot according to what I remember Doc saying will flow a little better on a bike with worked heads more compression.
I am seriously thinking of doing the same to my bike, if that is going to be a reliable build for putting 14K miles a year on.
Steve's new ''X'' pipe is GREAT... there are the large 02 bungs and the small 02 bungs. The pipe diameter is larger too so all and all I am all for the New Fullsac Pipe over Fuel Moto.
Doc
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When you pull the heads do you have to change the o ring at the base of the cylinder?If so how (pull clip out of wristpin and slide cylinder up witout pulling piston out)or is there another way?
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You can just pull them and then put them back, but in this case the sylinders came off to change to HD SE pistons
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So if your not changing pistons you don not have to worry about them leaking if you leave them alone
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I would not agree.
With the issues the 110 has regarding sealing the bases I would pull the cylinders and put in new orings. It take 15 minutes when the heads are off.
Here is a link to the write-up for the 110 Doc tuned, page 26 & 31.
http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1vqtq/SouthernBikerMagazin/resources/index.htm?referrerUrl=http%3A%2F%2Ffree.yudu.com%2Fitem%2Fdetails%2F480372%2FSouthern-Biker-Magazine-March-2012-issue
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