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Had one of these lights in hand the last few days.  Was surprised (only in comparison to the dual bulb halogens we're all used to) that both projectors didn't light up in high beam mode.

Thought about using a cheapie little rectifying diode and making a circuit to get both projectors on in high beam.  But before messing with it sent an email to the OE asking if the light was programmed to work that way even if power was sent to both high beam and low beam.

No need waste time making the little circuit change should anyone ever feel so inclined.  Mftr's tech support said the light control module inside the assembly will default to high beam if power is fed up both the high beam and low beam sides at the same time.  So there's a mod you don't need to waste your time with.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 09:31:21 PM »

Other than that, what's your opinion of the HD LED headlight?

Good?

Lousy?

The Most Wonderful Light ever?

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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 09:34:57 PM »

Other than that, what's your opinion of the HD LED headlight?

Good?

Lousy?

The Most Wonderful Light ever?

Pie?





Wasn't on my bike.   Was part of several chores doing to Travis's new green bike.  From an appearance perspective I really like the black version.  Am assuming I'd like the other one too but haven't seen on in person.  So can't say.

Travis says it was really good at night for the one little hop he'd had it on when we spoke.  But, again, I didn't ride it.  103 wrote that his was better than his HID (the Harley HID) in a direct before and after comparison.  Tommy said good things about his also.  So the concensus so far seems to be that it definitely does not suck.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 09:42:38 PM »

Thanks.

Saw them on a Moco display in Daytona at bike week.  Looked very good but not in a "real" environment. 

Appearance beats the Kury version hands down, especially the headlight.  Good to know it performs well. Have seen a couple of these on other bikes coming toward me - light looks clean & bright.

The price sucks, my opinion.  With passing lamps, list knocks a grand in the head, almost.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 11:08:03 PM »

The LED's are so much better than the stock lights it's not funny. For a bike that costs almost $40k they should come standard. They are pricey, you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 11:18:09 PM »



Don

The LED's are very impressive.
I did a LED demo session on the Riders Edge field about a month ago.
Two 2011 Street Glides, one with the factory light, the other with the LED.
No comparison with both on low beam. The LED equipped bike had more light on low than the standard light on high beam.
What impressed me was the light spread from the LED on low beam.
Like Mike said, the price sucks and until it comes down I'll stay home at night.

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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 01:26:22 AM »



No comparison with both on low beam. The LED equipped bike had more light on low than the standard light on high beam.
What impressed me was the light spread from the LED on low beam.
Like Mike said, the price sucks and until it comes down I'll stay home at night.

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That width of projection was something I immediately noticed on Travis's bike.  The spread from those side projectors really was impressive.  Could live without spotlights with that spread.

The price is high.  The 20% off shops are around $420 if I remember right.  When the HIDs first came out with the digital ballasts the kits were close to that.  The red bike at the time, however, was just dangerous to ride at night.  So I sprung for what was the only option at the time that was sure to make it good.  But I do ride at night some (enjoy it).  So the safety from the improved light wasn't just a conceit.

As much as the cost of this LED light is a consideration I've been significantly surprised by something relative to that cost.  A company called JW Speaker is the OE for the light.  They sell the same light (or at least a very close approximation of it) themselves.  That light and its siblings in their product line are marketed to over the road truckers, military applications and other places where good and/or heavy duty equipment is a necessity.  Harley sells it cheaper.  Even at Harley MSRP the light is significantly cheaper than dealers for Speaker offer the light to the other markets.

Speaker had products that were comparable to the the dual bulb Halogen reflector on the SEUCs and in the P&A book and a few other pieces we'd find familiar.  None of those seem to have the price variation that this one does.  Can't help but wonder which happened: Did Harley swing a significant deal in the purchase contract for these lights or did Harley buy some "lesser" version of the light than the Mftr. is offering to other markets?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 09:15:59 AM »

For those of you interested in the HD LED 7" lamp and 4" passing lights.  There was a thread about 2 weeks ago with a guy that installed the light on his Krypto SESG.  He installed the black headlamp, he has pictures with the lights on, and off.  I liked it so much that I was went out and bought the headlamp and passing lights in black for my FLHTCUSE5 BLK.  I called several dealers and had a couple do searches for me.  I finally found Las Vegas HD that had 5 lamps, and 2 sets of passing lamps.  They gave me a 10% discount and the entire set cost $834 shipped.  I haven't installed them yet because my bike has been at the shop for a hydrallic clutch leak.  As soon as i get it back i plan to install the lights and i will post pictures and start a new thread.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 09:36:12 AM »

A member on this forum had his new Limited converted completly (driving lights and all) over to LED lights.  Definately a huge improvement over stock!  However, on low beam, not quite equal to the HID next to it.....same goes for high beam.

Also, on our way back from Los Angeles last weekend, we noticed that his lights all seemed to have a sort of yellowish/greenish glow to them.  Then later in the day (couple hundred miles further) the one driving light seemed to be the bright white again. :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 09:59:43 AM »

I had HID's on the road king and now the HD LED headlamp on Kermit.  I've only been out at night a couple of times on the new bike but my first impression is the HID's throw more light out in front of the bike, the LED's put out more side to side light.  Not sure what a set of HID's would cost now, but when I bought mine, it was basically the same amount I paid for the HD LED headlamp.  However, I believe the LED should outlast the HID's.  I had a ballast go out on my HID's and luckly Don had a replacement on hand or else I'd been down waiting on a new one, plus the expense of getting a replacement part.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 10:12:07 AM »

I had HID's on the road king and now the HD LED headlamp on Kermit.  I've only been out at night a couple of times on the new bike but my first impression is the HID's throw more light out in front of the bike, the LED's put out more side to side light.  Not sure what a set of HID's would cost now, but when I bought mine, it was basically the same amount I paid for the HD LED headlamp.  However, I believe the LED should outlast the HID's.  I had a ballast go out on my HID's and luckly Don had a replacement on hand or else I'd been down waiting on a new one, plus the expense of getting a replacement part.

Inside a fairing where there's plenty of room either install isn't any real trouble.  Inside a nacelle, like on a Road King or some of the Softails, the LED with it's simple one plug hookup would be nice though.  Shoe horning a couple of ballasts and igniters inside a nacelle makes it crowded.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 12:57:01 PM »

Has anyone installed the HID lights from Hendric?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 01:27:52 PM »

For those of you interested in the HD LED 7" lamp and 4" passing lights.  There was a thread about 2 weeks ago with a guy that installed the light on his Krypto SESG.  He installed the black headlamp, he has pictures with the lights on, and off.  I liked it so much that I was went out and bought the headlamp and passing lights in black for my FLHTCUSE5 BLK.  I called several dealers and had a couple do searches for me.  I finally found Las Vegas HD that had 5 lamps, and 2 sets of passing lamps.  They gave me a 10% discount and the entire set cost $834 shipped.  I haven't installed them yet because my bike has been at the shop for a hydrallic clutch leak.  As soon as i get it back i plan to install the lights and i will post pictures and start a new thread.
As an addendum you also have to splice the garage door opener back in to the old style plug after you take out the stock halogen rig( on the Ultra anyway)
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 02:41:23 PM »

As an addendum you also have to splice the garage door opener back in to the old style plug after you take out the stock halogen rig( on the Ultra anyway)

I was afraid of that?  I haven't had the chance to install my LED's yet.  I know that i had to order a splitter for my bike because I have the dual halogen lamp with separate plugs.  I had to order a 2 into 1 plug harness for the LED set up.  I was hoping that i would not lose the garage door opener as a result?  After all, the original plug and harness remains, this harness connects to the separate high & low beem on the current dual halogen set up and brings it down to a single.  Good information, though, hopefully you are wrong?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2011, 03:11:05 PM »

I was afraid of that?  I haven't had the chance to install my LED's yet.  I know that i had to order a splitter for my bike because I have the dual halogen lamp with separate plugs.  I had to order a 2 into 1 plug harness for the LED set up.  I was hoping that i would not lose the garage door opener as a result?  After all, the original plug and harness remains, this harness connects to the separate high & low beem on the current dual halogen set up and brings it down to a single.  Good information, though, hopefully you are wrong?

Harlet offers a Y plug adapter you could use to avoid splicing.  Most good auto parts stores have H4 type headlight plugs that could be used to make something also.  Even if not using either of those options simple T tsps could be used against the stock wires to avoid actually cutting and splicing if that's a worry. 
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 04:18:05 PM »

When I put mine in I had to gut the old halogen rig first.  It consisted of an in line "ballast" or somethin like it and the one into two from the old plug to the dual halogen.  The LED is only a single plug like the old lamps and when you take the halogen stuff out the old style plug is left.  The garage door opener is wired in front of the one into two halogen wires that's why the splice was necessary.  The shop did the deal because after I put the LED in, the garage door wouldn't work.  I was in the shop when they did it and it wern't a harness or splitter they just tied it in, solder it up and shrink wrapped it up and presto.   :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 09:00:04 PM »

Harlet offers a Y plug adapter you could use to avoid splicing.

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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 09:01:43 PM »

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That's it.  Just a simple H4 plug Y adapter to give you two headlight plugs where you used to have one.  Use the spare to run to the GDO.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 05:47:48 PM »

I was afraid of that?  I haven't had the chance to install my LED's yet.  I know that i had to order a splitter for my bike because I have the dual halogen lamp with separate plugs.  I had to order a 2 into 1 plug harness for the LED set up.  I was hoping that i would not lose the garage door opener as a result?  After all, the original plug and harness remains, this harness connects to the separate high & low beem on the current dual halogen set up and brings it down to a single.  Good information, though, hopefully you are wrong?
Did ya get a chance to install those LED's yet, I'm dyin' to know how ya came out with the "splitter" and all.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 08:37:21 PM »

Nope, dealer still has my bike trying to figure out the Hydralic clutch issue.  I will have it back by the weekend and i will post pictures.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2011, 09:24:57 PM »

Did ya get a chance to install those LED's yet, I'm dyin' to know how ya came out with the "splitter" and all.

Use the Y harness and everything works perfect. All you have left is the 2 empty plugs from the dual halogen headlight.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2011, 11:48:11 AM »

Finally got my bike back from the HD dealer, they finally agreed to install the entire Hydraulic Clutch on my bike.  I installed the LED headlamp and passing lights.....COOL!  They look great and man, what a difference!  I didn't post pictures cuz another guy posted his install and we have the same bike.  Garage door opener works too using the splitter, which by the way was $41 worth of bullchit, how over priced Jeez!
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2011, 12:34:15 PM »

I guess it's better to spend the $41 than risk the warranty being voided on he bike because you spliced the wiring harness. I agree it cost at least twice what it's worth.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2011, 06:24:38 PM »

hey crimson slate i just got my bike back my gdo will not work i told the dealer about our problem they called harley  they stated there is a problem with the led having interfernce with signal and do not use this thread to fix your problem. please call me 570 233 5900  so i can fix the problem myself so i can tell harley to hire you to be a engineer thanks jeff
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2011, 08:39:05 PM »

Hey,

I will try and give you a call tomorrow late afternoon.  Did you buy the y splitter and install it correctly?  It's pretty simple, but you need to make sure you have the high beam and low beam to the correct plug.  The directions really aren't very clear, I just played with it until i got it right.  Did your garage door opener work before you installed the LED?  Could you have possibly lost the signal to your garage door opener?  It's pretty simple, and I am really mechanically handicapped.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »

hey crimson the dealer installed the light when i got it home it did not work tried to relearn signal did not work called dealer last friday told them what you did they called harley still waiting for the dealer to call i will call on monday to order 70423-98 i guess
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2011, 08:58:02 PM »

How did they install it without the splitter? Thats the problem.  They only hooked up the one plug?  You probably don't have high beam and low beam, and if you do, the idiots probably spliced the wire which is why your opener isn't working.  Pull the headlight out, look at how they have it hooked up.  You should have a plug coming from the inside of the fairing with a female end that will fit to your LED, and then two separate plugs for your stock high/low beams.  The Y splitter goes from 2/1 with the single going into the LED, the double side of the Y goes into the the original harness.  My guess is that they rigged it up and that's why its not working.  There is another thread on this, i will try and find it for you, meanwhile check that out and let me know what you find.  You can call me if you want.  734 645-1335
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2011, 10:04:33 PM »

How did they install it without the splitter? Thats the problem.  They only hooked up the one plug?  You probably don't have high beam and low beam, and if you do, the idiots probably spliced the wire which is why your opener isn't working.  Pull the headlight out, look at how they have it hooked up.  You should have a plug coming from the inside of the fairing with a female end that will fit to your LED, and then two separate plugs for your stock high/low beams.  The Y splitter goes from 2/1 with the single going into the LED, the double side of the Y goes into the the original harness.  My guess is that they rigged it up and that's why its not working.  There is another thread on this, i will try and find it for you, meanwhile check that out and let me know what you find.  You can call me if you want.  734 645-1335

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=61283.0  This thread? I put mine in myself and with the Y harness the GDO works fine. You have to wonder how some of these mechanics ever got a job.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2011, 08:55:11 AM »

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=61283.msg872219#msg872219

Here is the other thread on the LED lights.  One of the guys mentioned splicing the wire and his GDO wouldn't work. I think everyone else used the part and never had any issues.  Let us know after you pull the light out how the HD dealer installed.  My guess, they spliced the wire which would piss me off!
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2011, 06:35:15 PM »

hey guys took my light out only found 1 plug going to led light no jumper wires well i will order the jumper and see if it will work thankyou for the help
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2011, 08:56:42 PM »

Thats what I thought, another genus Harley Davidson technician experience.  That will fix the problem, easy to figure out too.  Question is how did you have a high and low beam with just one plug?  Sure theres not a splice?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2011, 09:11:13 PM »

nothing stood out when the sumper kit comes in i will look alot harder i only found  female plug in light and 2 sockets marked hi and low stuffed in fairing
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2011, 06:55:28 PM »

Put the jumper kit Everything works thanks
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2011, 07:50:23 PM »

That was fast, must of had the part in stock.  Good for you.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2011, 12:53:28 AM »

Other than that, what's your opinion of the HD LED headlight?

Good?

Lousy?

The Most Wonderful Light ever?

Pie?

For those of you considering the LED lighting system. I want to tell you my observations.

I went for a ride recently on my new 2011 FLHRC. I just picked it up a couple of weeks ago. I had the LED main light and passing lights installed on it before delivery.

Admittedly I am “new” to riding. I gave up the bikes when I had two young girls and a third child on the way. That was about 24 years ago. So, today’s technology is, somewhat, new to me. It may be that the stock headlight may have the same issues of this LED system. I do not know. Not having used the OEM lights. But, here is what I observed during my ride with this new LED system.

As I drove down the road it performed as expected. The low beam, especially with the passing lights on, provides a tremendous amount of light right where you want it. Need it, really. The high beam does disconnect the passing lights and there is a definite need for them to continue to flood the area immediately in front of the bike. I have found a way to address this and plan to do so. But, that is another thread.

In a car with halogen or HID lighting there is a horizontal “cut off” line at the top of the beam. The idea being to provide as much light as possible without bothering oncoming drivers. A good idea. The car, being on 4 contact points with the ground (hopefully) maintains this cut off line, generally, horizontal to the road.

What I learned on my drive through the twisties at night is that as I drove on a mountain road I, of course, lean into the turns. By doing so the horizontal line dips to the right or left depending on the turn. The road above the horizontal cut off line is lost. My eyes were adjusted to the illumination of the light and I was not able to see the road ahead. The area beyond the beam cut off line. As we typically drive out in front I found that I had to slow to a crawl in an effort to see the road that has become above the cut off line.

In “the old days” my bike headlights threw light everywhere. To the sides, onto the ground, the road ahead, the trees above. Everywhere. When I would go into a turn and lean the bike the light that would, normally, be illuminating the tree branches now illuminated the road ahead.

I tried both the high beam and the low. Wondering if the high beam might lead the bike better as it was in a turn. It does not.

Again, all modern lights may have this cut off line at the top of the beam. I do not know. I have the factory light but have not used it. On my previous bikes, though they had halogen lights, they did not have the cut off to the beam and so this was not an issue.

Just a heads up to those considering the LED light system.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2011, 04:33:10 AM »

thanks for that assessment.  That might be a issue for my old eyes...I guess they have to cut them off like that since they're so much brighter so as to not blind oncoming cars.  spyder
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2011, 09:26:06 AM »

Thanks Matt.  Have heard good & bad about these LED lights.  If I am spending that kind of money for a headlight, it had best be WAY better than stock.

I use Motolights for night riding now.  Very good "fill" for the close in areas on dark corners, but not a long beam of light to follow.  Most folks I know who have them like them.  I use the 50w bulbs not the LED version.
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