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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1485 on: April 19, 2018, 01:11:46 PM »

I finally got a chance to ride the beast😄 wow the power difference is huge! It feels the same off idle and then revs so much faster. I slammed the rev limiter yesterday lol. Very rideable and controlled, if you want more it’s there quick but still very tame when wanted.

Enjoy the ride. You will be happy.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1486 on: April 20, 2018, 05:54:37 PM »

Enjoy the ride. You will be happy.

Hell..I'm still happy every time I twist the wick..lol
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« Reply #1487 on: April 20, 2018, 10:18:42 PM »

Hell..I'm still happy every time I twist the wick..lol

Yes sir!!!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1488 on: May 07, 2018, 10:42:21 PM »

Just got this email from the guy who is tuning my bike. I’m a little disappointed, actually a lot disappointed with the numbers. He said the same thing. I have a TTS tuner, Fullsac DX pipe, Fullsac 1-3/4 baffles, with Ventilator air cleaner. I added SE 585 cams, S&S lifters, a K&N air filter, and rocker lockers. The guy who is tuning it is very talented. He is well-versed with TTS and has tuned a previous bike for me with great results. Not sure if the baffles are choking it or something else going on.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1489 on: May 07, 2018, 10:43:41 PM »

Mention the higher numbers are with the air cleaner off. Lower numbers are obviously with the K&N filter in place.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1490 on: May 07, 2018, 10:46:13 PM »

Sorry, my last thought on this. Also used a .030 head gasket.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1491 on: May 08, 2018, 12:26:33 AM »

What size motor? 58mm t.b. or stock?

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
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What size motor? 58mm t.b. or stock?

58mm, used the complete Harley kit, except for the lifters, and head gaskets. And of course the 585 cams for better low end.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1493 on: May 08, 2018, 08:32:29 AM »

It is not the pipe..I have the Fullsac Dx with the 1.75 powercores and I am getting 111/114 in my 2015 CVO 110 with the SE 585 cam..Who did you build? Did you do any headwork?

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1494 on: May 08, 2018, 08:32:52 AM »

I also have a 58mm t.b.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1495 on: May 08, 2018, 08:42:57 AM »

Just got this email from the guy who is tuning my bike. I’m a little disappointed, actually a lot disappointed with the numbers. He said the same thing. I have a TTS tuner, Fullsac DX pipe, Fullsac 1-3/4 baffles, with Ventilator air cleaner. I added SE 585 cams, S&S lifters, a K&N air filter, and rocker lockers. The guy who is tuning it is very talented. He is well-versed with TTS and has tuned a previous bike for me with great results. Not sure if the baffles are choking it or something else going on.

I try not to fixate on peak numbers (don't we all...), but that makes less torque and slightly more HP than when my bike was stage 1, 110". Power fixation aside, the low power could be a symptom of an underlying issue which is what would make me personally lose some sleep over, more so than the power. I'm not an expert but from the list of parts, I'm not seeing a choke point that would hold it back that drastically. Does it possibly need hit with more compression?

Hopefully whatever it is can get worked out and more power is the byproduct of a solid running bike. Good luck!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1496 on: May 08, 2018, 09:02:36 AM »

Just got this email from the guy who is tuning my bike. I’m a little disappointed, actually a lot disappointed with the numbers. He said the same thing. I have a TTS tuner, Fullsac DX pipe, Fullsac 1-3/4 baffles, with Ventilator air cleaner. I added SE 585 cams, S&S lifters, a K&N air filter, and rocker lockers. The guy who is tuning it is very talented. He is well-versed with TTS and has tuned a previous bike for me with great results. Not sure if the baffles are choking it or something else going on.

What is the static compression? Corrected ? What are you numbers? You have to get some compression in these to make  power . I zero decked cyls, shaved  .018 from the heads for 92 CC Chambers .030 gasket  .  Ended up with  10.6:1 Static and 9.96:1 corrected. 136/121

 I have basically the same set up except 2 1/4 baffles and an SE Agitator 58  MM air cleaner . Have heard you give up 3-5 with the Ventilator Air cleaner, have no data to back that up but it makes sense to me.

 I would throw a set of 2.0 or 2.25 baffles in  there an see what you can see. The 585 cam will give you plenty down low so you won't be giving up much with the bigger baffle but you may pick it up on the right side. That will eliminate one variable.   
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1497 on: May 08, 2018, 11:47:14 AM »

I try not to fixate on peak numbers (don't we all...), but that makes less torque and slightly more HP than when my bike was stage 1, 110". Power fixation aside, the low power could be a symptom of an underlying issue which is what would make me personally lose some sleep over, more so than the power. I'm not an expert but from the list of parts, I'm not seeing a choke point that would hold it back that drastically. Does it possibly need hit with more compression?

I Agree, my concern is NOT the low number rather is there a mechanical issue? Weird part is the bike was reflashed (by me, Fullsac Map, with a DX pipe and cores 1 3/4", 3 years ago) and it ran great! As a 110 it always ran well with the Fullsac map, and exhaust, never burned oil, had decent power, and got decent mileage. Gonna pick it up and evaluate on my own. If I knew the results I was going to get I would never have invested in the 117 kit.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1498 on: May 08, 2018, 03:35:28 PM »

For peace of mind you might run the bike up to Ken Puzio in Rockaway NJ  (BlackHills Custom Parts).   Let him spin on the dyno for comparison sake.   Might also check for a compression test or a leak down.   Is the throttleblade opening all the way at WOT?   Maybe your dynoguy had a brain fart and gave you a 3rd gear pull  :nixweiss:     Compression test will give you a pretty good indication of cylinder pressure just be sure to turn off your compression releases and hold the throttleblade open till the gauge stops moving.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1499 on: May 08, 2018, 04:45:20 PM »

Sumping? I got same set up with 130 ft/lbs and 120hp. Did a 106 recently and flu s the oil pump oring  got pinched and was sumping, cause low numbers.
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