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Gas price in Europe
« on: February 22, 2012, 04:38:03 AM »

Prices are in euro.for 1 liter.

                        95 octane                        98 octane                        diesel

Belgium             1.71                               1.73                                1.55
Finland              1.59                               1.64                                1.54
France               1.58                               1.61                                1.49
Germany           1.54                                1.63                               1.43
Italy                  1.73                                1.83                               1.68
Luxemburg         1.34                                1.36                               1.23
Netherland         1.75                                1.82                               1.46
Norway              1.90                                1.94                               1.85
Portugal             1.60                                1.67                               1.43
Spain                 1.37                                1.44                               1.33
Switzerland         1.46                                1.51                               1.57 

1 euro = $1.32

The gas has never been so high.
1 us gallon is 3.8 liter         
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 06:01:55 AM »

It's $6.77 per gallon here in Korea.
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 06:44:14 AM »

Just curious, how much of that is tax?
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 10:11:04 AM »

Just curious, how much of that is tax?

In the US the state/Federal combination varies.  Last time I checked Federal was 18.4 cents (24.4 cents for diesel) and states varied between 18 and 35 cents (or something close to that that).  The European excise taxes on fuel would make all of us stateside cry.  France is about 70% of the pump price.  Holland was highest last time I had reason to check.  Tax there was about $3.50 per gallon.  On top of nearly all the European's fuel tax is the VAT that gets charged on the full cost too.  Ouch.
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:23:06 PM »

In the US the state/Federal combination varies.  Last time I checked Federal was 18.4 cents (24.4 cents for diesel) and states varied between 18 and 35 cents (or something close to that that).  The European excise taxes on fuel would make all of us stateside cry.  France is about 70% of the pump price.  Holland was highest last time I had reason to check.  Tax there was about $3.50 per gallon.  On top of nearly all the European's fuel tax is the VAT that gets charged on the full cost too.  Ouch.

$8.11 for a US gallon in the UK. Roughly 70% of that is tax, including VAT, which is 20% currently.  Great, eh?  Paying tax on the tax we pay...
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 12:31:00 PM »

So if my calculations are correct, it's $9.17 a gallon (US) for 98 octane in Italy.  :o
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 12:32:44 PM »

Time to buy that Toyota electric.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 12:49:38 PM »

Time to buy that Toyota electric.

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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 04:06:59 PM »

Last year on a little island in Greece I was paying $2.09 euro a liter for 100 octane.  :'(

God knows how much it is this year.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 08:32:20 PM »

What, no faith in the American made Chevy Volt?! 

NO! Not at all!!!
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 10:39:46 PM »

I'm impressed they get 98 octaine?
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 11:10:22 PM »

I'm impressed they get 98 octaine?


Not a direct comparison though.  The octane rating method for Europe isn't the same we use in the US and Canada.  We use AKI (anti knock index) method of R+M/2 while most of the rest use the RON (Research Octane Number) standard (that's the "R" in R+M).  A 95 on the European RON scale is about the same as 91 on the North American AKI standard.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2012, 04:31:08 AM »

Not a direct comparison though.  The octane rating method for Europe isn't the same we use in the US and Canada.  We use AKI (anti knock index) method of R+M/2 while most of the rest use the RON (Research Octane Number) standard (that's the "R" in R+M).  A 95 on the European RON scale is about the same as 91 on the North American AKI standard.

I always run Shell V-Power in my bike - 98 Octane - when I can get it.  Never thought it would make a real difference, but it does. Was on a hire Ultra in Australia for a couple of weeks, with temps over 100 degrees, and the bike sounded and ran like a bag of wrenches. V-Power in it (it goes beyond just the octane rating, other 98 Octane brands don't do it) and the transition to a smooth, nice sounding motor was incredible.

In Germany - never seen it elsewhere I don't think, though I may be mistaken - some filling stations have V-Power Racing - 100 Octane.  Wish we could get that here!

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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2012, 01:06:24 PM »

In Switzerland we have Shell V-Power 100   shush ( no mention of "racing" on the pumps) thats not allowed here.
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 01:15:19 PM »

Nice price ice?  ;D
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2012, 01:35:00 PM »

10% are maintenance costs and gas station
40% are taxes
50% is the product + transport
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 01:45:22 PM »

10% are maintenance costs and gas station
40% are taxes
50% is the product + transport

I'm amazed at how much different that is to the UK! :o  Of course, we are self sufficient in the light crude that makes fuel, but still - you pay 50% for the product and transport?  The Oil companies are making a lot out of you, whereas it's the government for us.

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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 03:40:28 PM »

Nice price ice?  ;D


The prices vary a little from gas station to gas station but I think currently
95 is about 1.82chf / litre
98 is  ?????
100 is about 2.00chf / litre

I put 95 in the car and the old Carb Dyna, 100 in the CVO,
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 04:40:59 PM »


The prices vary a little from gas station to gas station but I think currently
95 is about 1.82chf / litre
98 is  ?????
100 is about 2.00chf / litre

I put 95 in the car and the old Carb Dyna, 100 in the CVO,

Comparatively cheap!
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 07:06:53 PM »

The price at my preferred station, a Chevron, for Premium (90-Oct) is currently $4.19/gal... the news last night said to expect it to go up anywhere from .20 to .25/gal...

We have gone through the whole story about how we have more than one refinery right here in our backyard... but it still doesn't explain why we're forced to pay so much...

ANY OF US!!!

Still I get better mileage out of the CVO than my other two rides... Chevy Tahoe and Chevy Avalanche... so I'll bet anyone can guess what I'll be riding once the Ice has disappeared.   8)
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Re: Gas price in Europe
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 08:04:23 PM »

I always run Shell V-Power in my bike - 98 Octane - when I can get it.  Never thought it would make a real difference, but it does. Was on a hire Ultra in Australia for a couple of weeks, with temps over 100 degrees, and the bike sounded and ran like a bag of wrenches. V-Power in it (it goes beyond just the octane rating, other 98 Octane brands don't do it) and the transition to a smooth, nice sounding motor was incredible.

In Germany - never seen it elsewhere I don't think, though I may be mistaken - some filling stations have V-Power Racing - 100 Octane.  Wish we could get that here!

Jim

You used to be able to get turbo blue racing fuel that was 107 but I have not seen it for a long time. I imagine the hot rodders around here no where to get it. I use to put about 1/2 gallon to a tank of premium and man the bike was smooth (my 85 fxr). I once put a Little too much in and my pipes turned white in side! Lucky I did not burn it up. Now my 1955 Triumph could run that turbo blue straight and it was like a completely different motor. Quite and smooth!!!!! FACE
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 05:16:03 AM »

You used to be able to get turbo blue racing fuel that was 107 but I have not seen it for a long time. I imagine the hot rodders around here no where to get it. I use to put about 1/2 gallon to a tank of premium and man the bike was smooth (my 85 fxr). I once put a Little too much in and my pipes turned white in side! Lucky I did not burn it up. Now my 1955 Triumph could run that turbo blue straight and it was like a completely different motor. Quite and smooth!!!!! FACE

Yes, back in the days of leaded, we had 5 grades - 1 star to 5 star.  5 star was powerful stuff! I remember when we paid US$0.43 a (US) gallon for it.
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2012, 10:12:11 AM »

Yes, back in the days of leaded, we had 5 grades - 1 star to 5 star.  5 star was powerful stuff! I remember when we paid US$0.43 a (US) gallon for it.


That long ago didn't the horses die if they drank it :huepfenlol2: ?
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2012, 10:16:49 AM »


That long ago didn't the horses die if they drank it :huepfenlol2: ?

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 02:18:50 PM »

I used to burn 100 octane low lead in my carb bike and it loved it.  Never had the nerve to try it in the fuel injected bike not knowing if it would screw with the O2 sensors or not.  :nixweiss:
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 02:26:14 PM »

I used to burn 100 octane low lead in my carb bike and it loved it.  Never had the nerve to try it in the fuel injected bike not knowing if it would screw with the O2 sensors or not.  :nixweiss:

Don't want leaded fuel.  The lead deposits will significantly shorten the sensor lifespan.
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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 02:37:44 PM »

The marina whacks me almost 6 bucks a gallon for non-eth fuel 85 octane...the oldster dont like ethanol...85 octane with a teaspoon of marvels mystery oil makes for sweet smelling happy 4 cams...and "lead additive" from redline. All the side valve motors seem to like it... :drink:
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 03:31:10 PM »


Don't want leaded fuel.  The lead deposits will significantly shorten the sensor lifespan.


That's what I thought would happen.  Thanks for the advise.  It did work great in the carb bike though.  I used to get it at the airport - 100LL avgas.
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 07:42:04 PM »

Keep in mind that a higher octane rating, by itself, doesn't make the engine run better.  A higher octane fuel, common mythology often notwithstanding, is not a more potent fuel with some higher amount of latent energy in the mix.  Higher "octane" (if that is the only difference) just means it's more resistant to detonation.  Octane ratings are just detonation indexes.

If you use a fuel that is more resistant to detonation and then make tuning changes to take advantage of that difference you might gain performance.  Dumping in a higher octane fuel by itself doesn't gain you anything but a lighter wallet though.
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2012, 07:46:43 AM »

I'm amazed at how much different that is to the UK! :o  Of course, we are self sufficient in the light crude that makes fuel, but still - you pay 50% for the product and transport?  The Oil companies are making a lot out of you, whereas it's the government for us.

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Interesting comparison here:

http://www.lovemoney.com/news/cars-computers-and-sport/cars/14735/uk-motorists-pay-highest-levels-of-duty-and-tax-in-europe?source=1000557
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 11:33:15 AM »

amazing - never thought anybody could top our taxes  ::)
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 11:38:26 AM »

amazing - never thought anybody could top our taxes  ::)

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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 11:44:30 AM »


Interesting comparison here:



I've just been glad the last ten years or so that North Sea reserves predictions have actually grown.  New tech, new efforts and some old accounting do avoid taxes have all worked to your benefit there.  A generation or so ago some of the reserves predictions were weak.  Britain without the North Sea reserves doesn't paint a pretty picture.
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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 12:08:03 PM »


I've just been glad the last ten years or so that North Sea reserves predictions have actually grown.  New tech, new efforts and some old accounting do avoid taxes have all worked to your benefit there.  A generation or so ago some of the reserves predictions were weak.  Britain without the North Sea reserves doesn't paint a pretty picture.

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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2012, 02:21:48 AM »

If we keep the Dems in office, likely our gas prices will match those in Europe within a couple years. Did I really hear that on the news?
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