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CVO Social => Rider Down => Topic started by: Doubletap on September 04, 2014, 11:05:59 AM
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I was on a good ride with a couple of close friends this past Sunday. After 3 or 4 hours in the twisty hills around here I misjudged a corner and crashed. My friend behind me told me what he saw happen and it sounds worse than I remember. Anyway, I locked the rear brake and started sliding, tail out to the right. I didn't panic because I've had that happen several times. So I let off and the bike pulled back straight but I wasn't straight with the arc of the curve anymore but headed towards a 100' drop off into rocks. I locked up the rear brake again and tried to lay it down but the front wheel caught and she went violently to the right. I was able to start raising my right leg up before I was thrown off. My friend said the bike rolled three times and I probably rolled at least ten times. I ended up about 150' from the first skid mark. Luckily the bike wasn't on me and it was an easy shoulder with gravel and grass instead of a drop off into trees and big rocks.
The bike is cosmetically ruined but she still runs and drives ok. I actually had to ride about 10 miles to get to a place that had cell phone reception. I'll be posting pics soon and most likely looking for parts to start the rebuild. We have our big rally coming up in 4 weeks and I'm not missing it. As for me, lots of road rash, a banged knee, badly bruised hip and a sore neck. I was not wearing a helmet and overall I'm very lucky to have walked away with just a few superficial injuries. No broken bones or internal injuries at all. As of today I'm able to get up and walk around without too much pain and I can take a shower without assistance. Road rash is healing nicely thanks to friends in the medical profession supplying me with silver sulfate burn cream and lots of bandages.
I'll be back on the road soon enough. A little wiser and probably more cautious about a few things. To be clear, we were't riding excessively fast, probably 35-40 mph, and we were not drinking excessively. A couple of beers earlier in the day at rest stops. The crash was entirely my fault for simply entering a corner faster than what I should have. As I said, probably a little more cautious from now own. I don't heal as fast at 48 as I did when I was 18.
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I am happy you were able to tell of your mishap and have learned from it. Heal up quick and hope you are able to find the parts you need to keep the SEEG2 running. Ride safe!
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Glad you came through with repairable damage to your body......they sell new motorcycles, but storebought arms and legs don't work so well. Great that you are ready to hop back on, many folks wouldn't!!!
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Glad your okay! Get well soon.
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Thanks for sharing your story Doubletap - yikes. As bad as this was it could have been far worse. It's good to know you're on the mend.
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Sorry to read this Doubletap, sounds like you are one lucky man, good luck on finding the parts you need and when the time comes ... Ride safely.
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Wow, glad you are mostly OK.
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No helmet ,, some drinking,,, I'd say you were very lucky.
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Glad to see you are able to tell us about this rather than the alternative :nervous: Heal Quickly :2vrolijk_21:
Marty
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No helmet ,, some drinking,,, I'd say you were very lucky.
Exactly that.
I'm glad you weren't seriously injured.
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Easy to mis judge a corner. Glad to hear that it wasn't worse, heal quickly!
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Sorry to here this get well soon !!!!!
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Very sorry to hear of your mishap, but certainly glad to hear you are okay.
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Glad to hear you came away from this only sore with some road rash. I have been down a few time and at very slow speed. The first time I cracked 5 ribs. I had a helmet on and definitely hear thumps and saw scraps on the helmet. Count yourself blessed, get a helmet for next time cause you are unlikely to get lucky twice.
DH
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Glad to hear you came away from this only sore with some road rash. I have been down a few time and at very slow speed. The first time I cracked 5 ribs. I had a helmet on and definitely hear thumps and saw scraps on the helmet. Count yourself blessed, get a helmet for next time cause you are unlikely to get lucky twice.
DH
Simon speaks wisely.........but helmets suck a big winnie!!
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Glad your going to be ok. You very lucky.
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If you lock the rear tire don't let up the brake. You will most likely higside 9 times out of 10. That's a big no-no. Ride it locked to a stop.
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Just to add another comment, drinking any alcohol and operate a motorcycle is in my book not cool. I also don't think it is wise to post on an Internet forum that you rect your MC after drinking alcohol. Pretty sure the insurance company would decline any claims if they read it.
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Just to add another comment, drinking any alcohol and operate a motorcycle is in my book not cool. I also don't think it is wise to post on an Internet forum that you rect your MC after drinking alcohol. Pretty sure the insurance company would decline any claims if they read it.
Excellent point! :2vrolijk_21:
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I didn't wanna bring it up; I am certainly glad you're OK... But it seems that you implied that it's common practice for you and your buds to ride a bit and then stop at a rest stop or similar, each of you has a beer and then y'all go ride some more. Apologies if I got that wrong but that's how I read it.
I do NOT want to come off like I'm something special because I'm not. However, I'm not riding with your group. Ever.
*buzzed* riding is impaired riding.
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I didn't wanna bring it up; I am certainly glad you're OK... But it seems that you implied that it's common practice for you and your buds to ride a bit and then stop at a rest stop or similar, each of you has a beer and then y'all go ride some more. Apologies if I got that wrong but that's how I read it.
I do NOT want to come off like I'm something special because I'm not. However, I'm not riding with your group. Ever.
*buzzed* riding is impaired riding.
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In lite of trying not to preach I rewrote my post however,
I will maintain I'm not a fan of the drinking and riding, not even 1 drink.
Good luck and heal quickly.
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Not supporting having a beer & riding, but one thing Doubletap doesn't need is a lecture about what he did wrong.......I think he knows that. BTW: I didn't read where he invited any of us to come ride with his group :drink:
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I don't drink, at all, having said that, I'm sure he and several others can have a beer or even 2 over a certain stretch of time responsibly. Looks like he knows he made some riding mistakes and I don't think it sounds like drinking was the culprit. Just my opinion.
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He actually states he has locked the rear up several times before and had no problem. If anything riding style/habits may need to be changed. Sort of like lessons learned or even a riders course. Everyone can use them from time to time. I know I certainly can.
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First and foremost, glad you're ok.
But I'm curious about what happened. You mentioned you locked the rear brake several times. What were you doing with the front brake at the time?
Reason I ask is that it takes a fair amount of force to lock up the rear brake on a Touring bike. If you were really trying to bleed off speed into a corner, the front brake not only works better, but is much safer.
Not lecturing, just trying to get a feel for what happened.
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I think you've heard a lot of good advice, etc & realize where you messed up. so I'm just gonna say "I'm glad you walked away from it". Don't know where you are spiritually, but I would be on my knees, thanking the Lord Jesus Christ. you are & have been blessed. heal fast.
RIDE SAFE!!! BE CAREFUL!!! GOD BLESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for all the comments and well wishes. I regret ever saying that alcohol was consumed because I know some are absolutely against that. And I respect that 100%. However, that in now way contributed to the accident. That being said, I apologize for offending anyone or starting a ruckus over that issue. As for locking up the read brake, it was a stupid mistake and, yes, I was using the front brake as well. As a matter of fact I use the front almost exclusively. But recently I had been trying to use the rear more often for certain situations, more experimenting than anything else I guess. In this case I was obviously using the rear and ended up applying it too aggressively. Between the first lockup and the second (final) I was on the front brake. I think I just got too aggressive with the rear and lost it. Looking back I see several things that I could have done better. Taking the warning from the floorboard scrape is one thing that I should have done. To me that usually means slow down, this time I didn't slow down enough. Lessons learned. And I'm still here.
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Glad you are ok and thanks for sharing this story....I feel we all can learn from this.
Do you think if your bike had ABS you would have been able to negotiate the turn with a different out come?
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Praying for a speedy recovery and praising God your around to talk and learn from your crash. :2vrolijk_21:
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Well let me say this. If you had ONE beer it did contribute to it.
Besides that your riding skills is fundamentally way off. If you have to ask what and if you don't understand what happened to you. (I am not bashing you, sorry if it looks like I do. I am just giving it to you straight.)
Get some real good training. Not the MSF crap. One great place to start is The Midwest motorcycle training facility that Doug Wolfe run. Take that class and you will start to understand what is needed. (Doug is a 29 years police Sargent motor officer that is a no nonsense trainer) you WILL be 100% better just after the first class. (Don't waste time on the Paladino classes)
Anyone that thinks that drinking ONE beer and riding is okay is way off
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Good luck getting the bike sorted. Despite the circumstances hope it's a fun and easy project.
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Well let me say this. If you had ONE beer it did contribute to it.
Besides that your riding skills is fundamentally way off. If you have to ask what and if you don't understand what happened to you. (I am not bashing you, sorry if it looks like I do. I am just giving it to you straight.)
Get some real good training. Not the MSF crap. One great place to start is The Midwest motorcycle training facility that Doug Wolfe run. Take that class and you will start to understand what is needed. (Doug is a 29 years police Sargent motor officer that is a no nonsense trainer) you WILL be 100% better just after the first class. (Don't waste time on the Paladino classes)
Anyone that thinks that drinking ONE beer and riding is okay is way off
General Patton aka Doug Wolfe will definitely give it to you straight. His course is demanding but if you practice what he preaches it will improve your riding skills. And you will have the 'pleasure' of experiencing a rear wheel lockup and how to handle it properly. Knowing what to do and what to expect when you encounter one of those OMG moments may be the difference between a crash or an escape.
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I'm not sure if your a man of faith, but we are grateful you weren't seriously injured. :)
Rev. Dr. Don
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Hate to hear you crashed, glad you're ok. Still haven't seen or met you even though we live pretty close to each other and have the same bikes. Was wondering who you were going to get to paint the bike? Local guy?
Phil