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CVO Social => In The News => Topic started by: DesertHOG on December 01, 2017, 12:27:22 AM
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What to build HD motorcycles?
http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/harley-davidson-is-looking-to-hire-temporary-positions (http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/harley-davidson-is-looking-to-hire-temporary-positions)
Note: Broken link replaced.
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At $15.50/hr they better give employees a big discount if they want to sell them Harleys.
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This can’t be true...my dealer told me that HD is cutting production due to lackluster sales. So they’re cutting production but hiring new employees? Hmmm, maybe the salesman was just trying to sell me that RGS with the old “if you want it you better buy it now because we don’t when or if we’ll get another one” tactic!
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They will all show up to work om a Honda...More part time workers just can't wait to see the junk they send out...
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The link wasn't very detailed - but reading between the lines I gathered they are filling vacancies with temporary workers, at reduced wages/benefits, rather than hiring fulltime workers at higher wages/full benefits.
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Possibly this is a ploy to lure $15/hour Starbucks barristas away to work for HD on the top secret Caramel Machiatto Road Glide & Double Skinny Tall Latte Fatboys for the rumored 2019 HD Starbucks themed bikes? :nixweiss:
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This is just a continuation of the cost cutting introduced under the previous management, whereby full time workers with decent pay and benefits are replaced by temporary part time workers with low pay and no benefits. It's unfortunate they don't use the same approach at the executive level, where they could save a real pile of cash.
Jerry
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I agree Jerry.
And watch where the quality goes over the next few years.
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At $15.50/hr they better give employees a big discount if they want to sell them Harleys.
At $15.50/hr they are not going to be potential customers.....
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I agree Jerry.
And watch where the quality
Quality what Quality..... :huepfenlol2:
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What to build HD motorcycles?
http://fox6now.com/2017/11/30/harley-davidson-motor-company-is-hiring-starting-pay-is-15-50-hour/amp/ (http://fox6now.com/2017/11/30/harley-davidson-motor-company-is-hiring-starting-pay-is-15-50-hour/amp/)
Link is broken
Here's another one
http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/harley-davidson-is-looking-to-hire-temporary-positions
No word on how many. I wonder if the employees laid off earlier were permanent or temp workers? The article doesn't address that. When we took the Steel Toe tour at York a few years back, they told us then that they had temp workers in there building bikes. $15.50 isn't bad money for an area as poor as what Milwaukee is. Temp position or not, it's still money in the wallet.
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Did I see a while back they laid off a bunch? This must be the low cost replacements.
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Glad to see that manufacturing in the rust belt is hiring....regardless of the spin.
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It's how they keep overhead down. The people they laid off were making close to $30 an hour. They hire temps from a temp agency and after the 120 days or whatever it is they let them go and bring in a new batch. I have family that live in tomahawk and the Harley plants up there started using that tactic about 5 years ago. Hard to keep up on quality if you get new people every three to four months.
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It's how they keep overhead down. The people they laid off were making close to $30 an hour. They hire temps from a temp agency and after the 120 days or whatever it is they let them go and bring in a new batch. I have family that live in tomahawk and the Harley plants up there started using that tactic about 5 years ago. Hard to keep up on quality if you get new people every three to four months.
Agreed. Corporations will do anything within the law to maximize profits for their shareholders. That's why I don't have confidence that the proposed tax bill coming out of Congress will result in more or higher paying jobs for Americans.
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Highly overcompensated CEO's and other executives should have to compete with their peers in the same third world countries they expect the peons in their companies to compete with. Somehow I think the way they embrace the "race to the bottom" would change drastically.
Btw, others have used temporary part time workers in the USA, Japan, etc., without destroying quality at the same time. This isn't the cause of the quality and reliability problems at H-D, that award goes to management (or lack thereof). And those other companies I'm talking about don't hire TPT workers at the same time they are cutting production, but rather use them for things like vacation replacements, periods of higher than normal demand versus hiring full time employees for a few months only to be laid off, etc.. For Harley to hire TPT's at the same time they are letting regular employees go and cutting production tells me the union has become completely worthless and management has sunk to new lows even for Harley.
Jerry
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if, this is how they treat there full time veteran employees, wonder how they might treat their customers?!
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if, this is how they treat there full time veteran employees, wonder how they might treat their customers?!
Wonder? A 115 year track record should take most of the mystery out.
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Perfect Jerry....
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I worked several years for a very Major Japanese Auto parts company. Maintenance and Management were about the only direct hires we used. People in supply, quality and production workers all were temporary workers prior to being offered a full time position.
With as difficult as it can be to fire some one, it is much easier to have them work for you for 6 months to a year before you decide to hire them.
Worked very well for this non-union company. Very few actually employees were fired in the five years I worked for them. We had well over 1000 employees.
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I worked several years for a very Major Japanese Auto parts company. Maintenance and Management were about the only direct hires we used. People in supply, quality and production workers all were temporary workers prior to being offered a full time position.
With as difficult as it can be to fire some one, it is much easier to have them work for you for 6 months to a year before you decide to hire them.
Worked very well for this non-union company. Very few actually employees were fired in the five years I worked for them. We had well over 1000 employees.
dave, i do understand the concept. what i do not understand is termination of senor employees whom have devoted most of their best working years. just business i am sure. but, surely someone at hd has some morals. :-\
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dave, i do understand the concept. what i do not understand is termination of senor employees whom have devoted most of their best working years. just business i am sure. but, surely someone at hd has some morals. :-\
That is not what the company I was working for did. I do not agree with termination of senior employees to bring on new ones.
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That is not what the company I was working for did. I do not agree with termination of senior employees to bring on new ones.
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