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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1455 on: March 07, 2018, 07:14:45 AM »

Here's one we finished up last week.  Customer was looking for mid range/top end pull and I think we delivered that pretty well.  We used SE cylinder/piston kit, Rick Ward CNC heads, SE 58mm TB, S&S 635HO cams @ 10.5 compression, and a D&D Bosszilla.


Wow!

Any bottom end work done?

Very nice, looks like a very fun Ripper!


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1456 on: March 07, 2018, 08:08:27 PM »


Wow!

Any bottom end work done?

Very nice, looks like a very fun Ripper!


YB

Customer chose not to do the crank on this one.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1457 on: March 08, 2018, 02:56:45 AM »

They checked my crank runout and it was .03. They also found what they called premature wear on my rocker arms amd will be replacing them. Everything else looked good and he said my cylinder walls were good...no scoring or other issues to report.
Did you mean .003?  IIRC, HD's bogus runout spec was changed from .003 to .012 to avoid a massive recall.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1458 on: March 08, 2018, 01:23:51 PM »

Did you mean .003?  IIRC, HD's bogus runout spec was changed from .003 to .012 to avoid a massive recall.

Yes...meant to say .003.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1459 on: March 10, 2018, 10:42:09 AM »

117 kit with suburban speed 10.7 to 1 pistons and head work and tman 590 Cam installed. Dyno coming next week. It’s a land air and see dyno, so I’m not sure how accurate the numbers will be compared to a dyno jet.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1460 on: March 10, 2018, 12:28:33 PM »

Yes...meant to say .003.
Along with all the $$$. My shop manual for my 07 states .003 maximum. Of course when so many found the pinion runout to be all over the place they had to replace many motors and the stock holders can't have that so up went the number of tolerance and still many were over that. Shows me they don't care about their customers when they can't even give them a solid flywheel setup out of the gate even today ten years later. I would buy a new one only if I could get it without a motor.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1461 on: March 10, 2018, 12:46:30 PM »

Along with all the $$$. My shop manual for my 07 states .003 maximum. Of course when so many found the pinion runout to be all over the place they had to replace many motors and the stock holders can't have that so up went the number of tolerance and still many were over that. Shows me they don't care about their customers when they can't even give them a solid flywheel setup out of the gate even today ten years later. I would buy a new one only if I could get it without a motor.

Im not at all worried...i have been riding Harleys for a long time and owned a bunch of them and never had one leave me stranded.  On this 2014, my mechanic said I am good with the stock crank. If they are over .005 or .006 he recommends working the lower end. He is the motor builder at this shop and has been there for decades. He has probably built thousands of Harley motors so I trust his judgement.  But, we all know there are risks when you hot rod these bikes. You have to pay to play...no big deal to me.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1462 on: March 12, 2018, 04:35:56 PM »

Glad to hear you haven't been on the side of the road. I have, more than once. I do know from those that have beefed up the bottom end it really makes for a smooth motor.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1463 on: March 15, 2018, 01:10:54 PM »

Dyno is done HD117kit 10.7 Suburban speed pistons, Tman 590 cam and Suburban speed head job porting polishing and oversized intake valve. It pulled from 100TQ at 2500 RPM up to 133TQ at about 4700 RPM and maxed out at 124HP at 5500RPM but holds it till 6000RPM. My exhaust Vance and Hines OS450 rounds and power dual header, hurt my low end a little, but I love the sound and 100TQ at 2500 RPM is not to shaby LOL. Dyno was a Dynomite and the tuner said it usually reads a few HP and TQ lower then the local Dyno jet dyno's. I can't wait for nice weather so I can feel the power!! LOL.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1464 on: March 15, 2018, 04:42:52 PM »

Dyno is done HD117kit 10.7 Suburban speed pistons, Tman 590 cam and Suburban speed head job porting polishing and oversized intake valve. It pulled from 100TQ at 2500 RPM up to 133TQ at about 4700 RPM and maxed out at 124HP at 5500RPM but holds it till 6000RPM. My exhaust Vance and Hines OS450 rounds and power dual header, hurt my low end a little, but I love the sound and 100TQ at 2500 RPM is not to shaby LOL. Dyno was a Dynomite and the tuner said it usually reads a few HP and TQ lower then the local Dyno jet dyno's. I can't wait for nice weather so I can feel the power!! LOL.
Sounds like big fun.  Here's hoping for good weather really soon!
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1465 on: March 15, 2018, 05:18:53 PM »

What is the goal for AFR at WOT? I’m thinking it’s tuned to lean based on sending my sheet with AFR to Surban Speed. They said we should be at 13 to 1 Or lower, it touches 14.2 and hangs there for a while. I will post dyno sheet when I figure out how lol.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1466 on: March 15, 2018, 05:38:46 PM »

DYNO ATTACHED
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1467 on: March 15, 2018, 11:56:13 PM »

DYNO ATTACHED

Nice results, should be a very enjoyable ride for you
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1468 on: March 18, 2018, 12:15:20 PM »

Can a tuner look at my AFR and tell me what you think? I’ve been told it’s way to lean. There is also a dip where it shows the most lean. Thoughts? Looking for some insight.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1469 on: March 19, 2018, 05:01:34 PM »

Dyno is done HD117kit 10.7 Suburban speed pistons, Tman 590 cam and Suburban speed head job porting polishing and oversized intake valve. It pulled from 100TQ at 2500 RPM up to 133TQ at about 4700 RPM and maxed out at 124HP at 5500RPM but holds it till 6000RPM. My exhaust Vance and Hines OS450 rounds and power dual header, hurt my low end a little, but I love the sound and 100TQ at 2500 RPM is not to shaby LOL. Dyno was a Dynomite and the tuner said it usually reads a few HP and TQ lower then the local Dyno jet dyno's. I can't wait for nice weather so I can feel the power!! LOL.

Yes sir! You will like it...should hit hard
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