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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2018, 04:36:28 PM »

To Yellow09serg it’s was tuned again after the 117 build was done. That’s why I was disappointed with the final results.  Thank you HD Street Proformance I looked them up on FB and was impressed with them. I will be calling them tomorrow to talk with them .0
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2018, 05:09:12 PM »

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One problem can be timing being pulled from heat with the PV maps.  The stock power vision maps can be frustrating from Dynojet for then less than stellar tuners.  They pull big timing depending on temp.   A good tuner will generally manage that and adjust or turn off those tables to tune the bike.

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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2018, 05:22:55 PM »

I’m wondering if the dealership didn’t tune it correctly or half way did it. I may call the dealership and talk to them first before proceeding. I appreciate the info I wouldn’t know to think of that hence posting here for feedback from people who know
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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2018, 05:49:57 PM »

My guess is your pulling tons of timing at 220 degrees and beyond

If you have your map and the PV software open your map and look at the tables under Spark

Spark adjust by air temp
Spark adjust by Engine Temp
Spark Adjust by head temp

I would start there

Did they turn off spark knock retard when they tuned it?   That can also take up to 8 degrees of timing out of the motor.

Not saying these are the issue, just some places to start looking.

Other than that a compression test and a leak down.    If you tune it elsewhere bring it back to the original Dyno for comparison.   
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2018, 09:21:42 PM »

I agree, 100%
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2018, 05:00:31 AM »

Thanks for your input! I’ll check on those
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2018, 09:42:27 PM »

Thank you so much! Will be giving them a call in the morning
Brandon does great work.  He has tuned two bikes for me so far.  Hard to beat unless you want to go to FL.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2018, 09:31:22 AM »

I called and left a message yesterday and haven’t heard back yet. If I don’t hear back I’ll be going to Daytona next week maybe I can have it done there.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2018, 01:05:01 PM »

OK now we are talking.
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Thanks Don!!

I called and left a message yesterday and haven’t heard back yet. If I don’t hear back I’ll be going to Daytona next week maybe I can have it done there.
Was good talking to you this morning.  Looking Forward to getting here and on the dyno.

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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2018, 02:11:14 PM »

Thanks for the call back Brandon looking forward to working your magic!
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2018, 10:32:46 PM »

Looking forward to seeing Brandon’s magic.  I was impressed when I spoke to them about an upgrade.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2018, 02:53:20 PM »

Got it back from the dealership> They increased the timing 5 degrees and 25% more fuel on decel. It still misses and pops on decel. The numbers didn't change lol They said that's all your gonna get out of that set up. I'm still bewildered!
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2018, 10:28:14 PM »

Got it back from the dealership> They increased the timing 5 degrees and 25% more fuel on decel. It still misses and pops on decel. The numbers didn't change lol They said that's all your gonna get out of that set up. I'm still bewildered!

Really sounds like they are just guessing at this point.  I truely think there's more in it if properly tuned.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2018, 08:32:42 AM »

Got it back from the dealership> They increased the timing 5 degrees and 25% more fuel on decel. It still misses and pops on decel. The numbers didn't change lol They said that's all your gonna get out of that set up. I'm still bewildered!

So your using Thunder Creek, it does not sound like they are experienced at tuning.  Add this to a long list of why I have not been there store since 2002.  There are a few dealer that do a good tune, but the vast majority do not.  Unless you have a really bad parts combination there is no reason it can not be tuned right to not miss and not pop.

You need to find a Tuner who knows what he is doing.  Brandon is a very good choice.
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