Don't like the styling, to Victoryish. Do like the flake though. Price? Well my 17' CVOSG 114 was 38.2K OTD. Subtracting Tax, license, fees & $550 in gift cards bike was 34.5K with life time tires, must put 8k on them. (A Harley demo day promo I think) Indian starts @ 31.5K for a 111. Air cleaner, bigger engine & lowers not included. (Harley lowers are a nicer unit) Might cost more or at least equal up a bit. Prices vary a lot & I shopped for a while to get this price most were marking up 5K. I know there has been some discontent with the 18' HD colors - (Love or hate them). I'm very happy with my 17' paint quality & color & so far am happy with my twin cooled M8. I'm sorry but Harley's styling is hard to beat & I don't see the discount incentive.