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SOCAL296

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Would you want to keep it?
« on: August 13, 2018, 03:53:39 PM »

Short Version. My 2014 CVO Limited is in the shop and has been since the 27th of last month. Awaiting new Long Block. Should he getting it back in a few days but I’m kind of dismayed over this whole thing.
Wondering if I should keep it or trade it for a 2019 Non CVO. Or if I will learn to love it again. This bike was flawless up to the 30k mile mark.
I’ve sent a letter off to Harley Customer Service but I highly doubt anything will come of it. Thankful I have the ESP.
I have decisions to make once I get it back.
How much value have I lost or gained with a new motor??
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 05:17:53 PM »

Personally I'd keep it.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 05:32:00 PM »

Keep it. As long as it has warranty let them keep fixing it. The new long block VIN will match the bike installed buy Harley so start riding it and enjoy it.  :bananarock:
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 05:33:43 PM »

Not enough information.  Obviously a significant failure.  If that much is being replaced are ancillary but necessary replacements happening with things like oil cooler, oil pan, etc.  If so the decision isn't based on the repair but on whether or not you like the bike.  If the repair is lacking those other important corrections and Harley won't include them then trade that bitch in a heartbeat.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 05:36:14 PM »

you'll have a long wait till the 2028's are released though....    :oops:

i agree with twolane, if it doesn't hurt you that much financially, then sometimes you have to cut your losses.  once you lose confidence in something, it's very hard to get it back...
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 05:39:22 PM »

Every one of us knows sooner or later their bike is going to break down. Keep an ESP on it and love it with every ride. When you see the next bike that you just have to have, trade it in with a new ESP in hand.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2018, 07:16:14 AM »

What failed?


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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2018, 07:39:27 AM »

Since I have the same bike I am curious as well as to what happened.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2018, 03:26:41 PM »

I got a 14 Limited with 9000 miles and I will replace the lifter after my trip to Scotland next week.


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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2018, 03:38:29 PM »

Had a new motor put in on my 2010 CVO Ultra.  Hit a rock, knocked a hole in the case, insurance paid for a complete new motor.  VIN matched, ran great.  Kept it a year, but for some reason it just never felt quite right.  Nothing mechanical, all ok there.

Traded the bike a year and a few months later for a 2017, never regretted it for a minute. 

Do what you think is best SOCAL, that's what counts in the end.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2018, 03:30:31 AM »

Just my two cents, but I saw a BMW K1600B and K1600 Grand America within ten minutes of each other in Julian today. Those bikes are damn fine machines. Go test ride one while the scoot is in the shop. If I was in your shoes, I would think about expanding my options given the MoCo's track record.
 
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2018, 08:29:00 AM »

My 2010 CVO Street Glide scissored the flywheel at 30k miles.  The MoCo  sent new flywheels and other parts.  I was concerned, like you are, but I also had the extended warranty.  Rode the hell out of that bike up until I sold it to a CHP officer.

I talked to him recently and he said it's still running strong.

If you have the extended warranty.....go out there and ride the hell out of it.  If it breaks again.....they can fix it again.

But for the record.....the new BMW B and the BMW Grand America are both very fine bikes and if I could get a reasonable offer on my CVO Ultra Classic, I'd be having one of those BMWs!  Following on their forum and facebook pages, more than a couple of CVO owners have crossed over to those two new models.  I only have room for one or I'd be there.  Go take one for a test drive.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2018, 09:31:23 PM »

Get the 2019 limited, its a great bike and the 114 is a smoother running, more powerful engine than the 110 you got in your cvo. I've seen a few already in the dealers and they are good looking bikes. No beemers or wings have ever interested me.
Short Version. My 2014 CVO Limited is in the shop and has been since the 27th of last month. Awaiting new Long Block. Should he getting it back in a few days but I’m kind of dismayed over this whole thing.
Wondering if I should keep it or trade it for a 2019 Non CVO. Or if I will learn to love it again. This bike was flawless up to the 30k mile mark.
I’ve sent a letter off to Harley Customer Service but I highly doubt anything will come of it. Thankful I have the ESP.
I have decisions to make once I get it back.
How much value have I lost or gained with a new motor??
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2018, 12:17:52 PM »

dido above.
Gotta ask yourself, if you're pulling into some event, what would you rather pull up on, a Harley or something else.
I prefer the rumble and roar not a sewing machine.
HD is the most modified bike out there and has more aftermarket parts for customizing.
Not much out there to make a BMW K1600B your own, you're just one of the same not one of a kind.
Oh and they only come in one color  :joker: :sleeping:
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2018, 08:14:13 PM »

Good advice, Kojak.
I did just that - just brought home a new 2019 Ultra Limited (silver flux).
2014 SERK seems to "ate itself". Lower end issues.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2018, 11:11:45 PM »

Good advice, Kojak.
I did just that - just brought home a new 2019 Ultra Limited (silver flux).
2014 SERK seems to "ate itself". Lower end issues.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2018, 07:53:10 AM »

My 2011 lost the crank and required a rebuild. This was back in 2012.
It was under factory at that time. The shop gave me a little crap about not running Harley oil. I explained what Magnuson–Moss was and they stopped giving me chit. LOL
They fixed the bike, but I never rode it again.
I traded it for a new one before the repairs where complete.
I just did not feel like dealing with it after that. It may have went 100 miles or 100,000 before it broke again. I just did not want to deal with it.
Some will say as long as its under warranty, keep it. Makes perfect sense for some. Just not me, I want the bike running and want to feel safe on long trips. With a bike that failed once on me, I can no longer do that.
I know some will say that they can all fail at one point or another. I do understand that, and it is a valid point.
It's just in my head, once it fails on me, I can no longer ride it feeling safe.
Just my thoughts on this.
There are reasons to keep and reasons to not keep.
We can offer all the advice in the world, in the end it will be how you feel about it.
Good luck no matter what you decide.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2018, 06:07:14 PM »

Congrats my man! Still loving my 2017 cvo limited. Just had my 10k service couple of months ago, zero issues.
Good advice, Kojak.
I did just that - just brought home a new 2019 Ultra Limited (silver flux).
2014 SERK seems to "ate itself". Lower end issues.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2018, 01:34:46 PM »

Looks like the guy that started this thread traded it in recently. Decision made.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 03:33:16 PM »

Hi guys I know I started this thread, so here is the end of the story. I rode it for a bit but traded it in on a New  2019 CVO. I got a more than fair trade from my dealer while other dealers weren’t so eager to take it. I shopped for Non-CVO modeled but they just came up short. I was able to work the deal at my home dealership and at the same payment amount.
This new 2019 CVO is amazing, Ride Quality  and comfort surpasses the 2015
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2018, 03:58:03 PM »

Congrats on the new ride. Happy endings are great.


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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2018, 09:54:45 PM »

Nice Bike, congratulations! Glad to see your still on Harley and didn't jump to whatever those other things are. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2018, 09:45:43 AM »

     Did I miss something. I really wanted to know what the original engine failure was or what may have caused it.
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Re: Would you want to keep it?
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2018, 11:23:29 PM »

     Did I miss something. I really wanted to know what the original engine failure was or what may have caused it.
            Jonnierock

I took it in for its 30k mile service at 29400 on the Odom. Up to this point this bike had been flawless and I had services done every 5k Miles. Bike was stock except for Fulsac cores and handlebars. It has been my daily commuter and we have made quite a few long adventures with it.
Shortly after the service I began hearing noises in the Cam Compartment. It sounded like a rattle can and rusty gate. I figured it was going to be a bad lifter. As it turned out it was a bad lifter, a broken chain tensioner and metal inside the Cam Compartment. The bike was repaired with the addition of an upgraded oil pump, Cam plate and bearings. Bike sounded great when I got it back and off we went on a 2800 mile journey. About 1000 Miles into the ride. I began hearing a leaked down lifter every morning. We finished the ride and I took it back to my dealer for evaluation. This time they had a peak at the valve train as well. They found broken valve guides debris in the lifter bores which scored the bored and actually caused the lifter to stick. The dealer recommended a new Long Block and it was replaced. Bike is running very well. However I did trade for a new one.
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