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[MCE]

My go to for mid is the 662-2.  It likes 11:2-3 static but with 50 closing.  It’s only static.

That's a good one as well, decent midrange on a 124.

Static. People like to cling onto static (cranking numbers), which is fine when discussing
starting the engine. After its running, that goes out the window to a large extent.

Even though the intake runners are horrible on these engines, air momentum in the
intake tract will overcome some of that 'late close' as RPM increases.

a 124 should have allot of grunt, no matter what you do to it. (Even if you pick a crap
cam, it's still gonna have grunt).

The cam should be selected after you know what the heads flow.... that's JMO.

[MCE]

We're working on making a better intake manifold. It's going to be a challenge but we'll come up
with something pretty decent.

[HD Street Performance]

a 124 should have allot of grunt, no matter what you do to it. (Even if you pick a crap
cam, it's still gonna have grunt).

Agreed, something is wrong and eyes should be on motor health, pipe, and tune before playing musical cams

[BigLew]

My experience with a 662-2 is not a good midrange cam . A good top end cam.

BigLew

[MCE]

a 124 should have allot of grunt, no matter what you do to it. (Even if you pick a crap
cam, it's still gonna have grunt).

Agreed, something is wrong and eyes should be on motor health, pipe, and tune before playing musical cams

There's a prevailing tendency out there for people to blame the cams. If you select a cam set based on the
airflow of the head and intended use (RPM/displacement) of the motor, it becomes pretty straight forward.

The pipe and tune often take a back seat in these situations. People are quick to condemn the cams
when things don't turn out right. More often than not, it's not the cam. It's a mismatch of components.


I agree with that statement, pipe and tune must match the rest of the build or you're wasting money and
time.

The pipe is critical, and it's often overlooked from a performance standpoint.
(Selecting a pipe based on looks, sound or some uneducated guess is not a winning strategy. The intake
manifold is also critical. But the choices are limited b/c the of the design of these motors, they don't lend
themselves well to getting creative with a manifold.

We're using some CFD models to come up with something that's "tuned" for the engine. Getting something
that physically fits in there is going to be a challenge.

If looks and sound are more important, then by all means, go that route. But don't expect miracles from
a well thought out build with a less than ideal pipe). 

Looks and sound are not even on my radar screen 

[MCE]

My experience with a 662-2 is not a good midrange cam . A good top end cam.

BigLew

If the motor is big enough, and/or the bike is light enough, it could be a great midrange cam. 

[HD Street Performance]

The manifold needs to be 3d printed and hopefully made of a material that is not a good heat conductor.

[MCE]

The manifold needs to be 3d printed and hopefully made of a material that is not a good heat conductor.

I'm still in the design/development stage. Making it fit on the bike is going to be the biggest challenge.

first one is going to be CNCed billet aluminum
 

[Nocvo]

We're working on making a better intake manifold. It's going to be a challenge but we'll come up
with something pretty decent.

Space is at a premium, be interesting to see what you come up with.