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[Dwight]

Years ago I used Streets and Trips for mapping out planned rides (before GPS became so accessable).  Is there a new version of this or some other software mapping program that is compatible with the 660 that HD provides with the CVO's?  I don't have any experience with the Garmin software but from what I've seen so far it doesn't seem to user friendly to me.  I'm not an expert computer user, I leave that to the grandkids .  We are leaving in early June for a trip to Alaska and I'd really like to use the GPS for more than just mapping one day at a time.  Any suggestions?

Thanks
Dwight

[ultrafxr]

Dwight, I agree with you tha Mapsource is not user friendly.  I had used Streets & Trips for quite a while and found Mapsource difficult.  But I stuck with it and learned its little idiosyncrasies and now it is all I use.  Best way to design a route and send it to the 660 imo.

[Midnight Rider]

Dwight, I agree with you tha Mapsource is not user friendly.  I had used Streets & Trips for quite a while and found Mapsource difficult.  But I stuck with it and learned its little idiosyncrasies and now it is all I use.  Best way to design a route and send it to the 660 imo.

Me too...it's not the easiest software to use, but it does work once you figure it out.  The one thing I haven't been able to figure out is why it will tell me to exit the interstate, then take the ramp and get right back on it.   

[Kcoop]

  There is another string  (Downloading maps from Microsoft Streets and Trips) that tells you how to down load maps from Streets and Trips to you Zumo in this forum.  It works pretty well.

[JCZ]

Me too...it's not the easiest software to use, but it does work once you figure it out.  The one thing I haven't been able to figure out is why it will tell me to exit the interstate, then take the ramp and get right back on it.   

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Man, that sounds like my kind of luck.  And the first time you ignore getting off will be the time you really were supposed to get off..........and turn.

[Bungy]

You can use S&T to design the route, but still need to use Mapsource to download it to your Zumo.

[Midnight Rider]

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Man, that sounds like my kind of luck.  And the first time you ignore getting off will be the time you really were supposed to get off..........and turn.

EXACTLY!! 

[ultrafxr]

Me too...it's not the easiest software to use, but it does work once you figure it out.  The one thing I haven't been able to figure out is why it will tell me to exit the interstate, then take the ramp and get right back on it.  

Happened to me on an unfamiliar route and when I took the exit and saw I was to proceed across the cross street and get right back on the super slab I thought WTF.  All I can figure is that I keep my preferences to shortest route and the road selection mid-way between prefer minor roads and prefer highways and it figured that taking the exit was shorter than staying on the interstate.  

I usually try to look at the route after each turn so I have a pretty good idea of what is coming up - especially if I am on an unfamiliar road.  I know it is not the best thing for safety to be checking the gps as you ride so I pick my time when I am running straight and clear so I can sneak a peek for a second.  

[ultrafxr]

You can use S&T to design the route, but still need to use Mapsource to download it to your Zumo.

Absolutely.  And I wonder how closely it will match up once you re-calculate it in Mapsource.  I would watch it very carefully.  And it adds another layer of complexity imo.  For me I just do not think it would be worth the trouble.

[Midnight Rider]

Happened to me on an unfamiliar route and when I took the exit and saw I was to proceed across the cross street and get right back on the super slab I thought WTF.  All I can figure is that I keep my preferences to shortest route and the road selection mid-way between prefer minor roads and prefer highways and it figured that taking the exit was shorter than staying on the interstate.  

I usually try to look at the route after each turn so I have a pretty good idea of what is coming up - especially if I am on an unfamiliar road.  I know it is not the best thing for safety to be checking the gps as you ride so I pick my time when I am running straight and clear so I can sneak a peek for a second.  

I use the same settings, Jerry, and I'll bet money that's why it happens.  Usually, I can tell because Jill (I think that's the name of the GPS girl talking to me in my ear) will say "take ramp on right, then take ramp on to I-whatver" interstate I'm already on.  I've gotten to where I really detest riding on the Interstate, but sometimes you don't have any other viable choice.  I know that the Interstate is probably actually a safer alternative than 2 lane highways, but it takes something away from the experience for me.

[ultrafxr]

I use the same settings, Jerry, and I'll bet money that's why it happens.  Usually, I can tell because Jill (I think that's the name of the GPS girl talking to me in my ear) will say "take ramp on right, then take ramp on to I-whatver" interstate I'm already on.  I've gotten to where I really detest riding on the Interstate, but sometimes you don't have any other viable choice.  I know that the Interstate is probably actually a safer alternative than 2 lane highways, but it takes something away from the experience for me.

I agree but sometimes there are no good alternatives when you or your riding buddies don't have the time.

I never listened to the prompts until I got the ruse with the nav interface but have started to use it more.  But I do find it annoying that they repeat the turn directions so many times. 

[Keats]

I use the same settings, Jerry, and I'll bet money that's why it happens.  Usually, I can tell because Jill (I think that's the name of the GPS girl talking to me in my ear) will say "take ramp on right, then take ramp on to I-whatver" interstate I'm already on.  I've gotten to where I really detest riding on the Interstate, but sometimes you don't have any other viable choice.  I know that the Interstate is probably actually a safer alternative than 2 lane highways, but it takes something away from the experience for me.

I keep the settings as the shortest time and no highway restrictions all of the time.
I then plot out all rides on mapsource to get a more scenic route.

I also just wing the route with a destination in mind (setting that up) and do not follow GPS (I then pick the more interesting roads), letting it recalculate all of the time.
I watch destination arrival time to make sure I do not get to far off track.

The biggest obstacle to learn is not to follow it literally all of the time.

I also hated Mapsource, but Sklywag helped me out and I have come to terms with it.
Thanks Sklywag

[Unbalanced]

Microsoft has a software called Map point 2011.  I just downloaded it, don't know how good or bad it is,  but figured it was worth a looksy over the mapsource.

[Arctic John]

There IS a Streets and Trips 2011 for like $25.  Why aren't we using that one?  I tried Mapquest, it worked fine to create a route on the computer, but when I downloaded the route to the 660 it "recalculated" the route and messed up some of the roads.

I too am looking for an easy program that will download the entire route I created. 

[Eqcons]

Mapsource is a great example of terrible software!

Best method I know of planning routes and sending to your GPS is to use HD's online Ride Planner.

http://rideplanner.harley-davidson.com/rideplanner/ridePlanner.jsp?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US

Works great and sends directly to your GPS.

Jim

[ultrafxr]

Mapsource is a great example of terrible software!

Best method I know of planning routes and sending to your GPS is to use HD's online Ride Planner.

http://rideplanner.harley-davidson.com/rideplanner/ridePlanner.jsp?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US

Works great and sends directly to your GPS.

Jim

Only problem I have with it is that it is internet based and if you do not have an internet connection (like on the road at a hotel which sometimes if iffy even if they say they do have it) then you cannot use it.  And even when online I hae found it to be somewhat slow and cumbersome.  Even high speed internet connections sometimes are not all that good.

[Eqcons]

Only problem I have with it is that it is internet based and if you do not have an internet connection (like on the road at a hotel which sometimes if iffy even if they say they do have it) then you cannot use it.  And even when online I hae found it to be somewhat slow and cumbersome.  Even high speed internet connections sometimes are not all that good.

All true!  The on the road/hotel part doesn't worry me, as I always have the routes planned in advance and downloaded to my Garmin.

For those that don't know:  Although it claims to be just for the US and Canada, it works for most of Europe too (and perhaps other parts of the world). I won't do Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, or Russia, unfortunately, even though the road coverage is there, because it refuses to route within these countries. Western Europe is fine though. (HD has a European Rooute Planner too, but it's even worse than MapSource!)

Jim