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Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider

 The driver would have been deported years ago had massachusetts enforce the law.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 02:58:27 PM »

Worthless piece of crap. In Canada, our justice system would provide legal aid to this bum and probably even dipp into the fund to provide bail.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 03:25:30 PM »

I am a LEGAL immigrant. This is unacceptable, we need to start upholding the law. Zero amnesty, go home or go to jail. For us, the ones that chose the legal path, is even a worse slap on our faces after we had gone thru to get our residence/naturalization done. Throw him in jail, max security with the general population.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 03:52:15 PM »

Time to get angry.    >:(

Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider

 The driver would have been deported years ago had massachusetts enforce the law.
If he's an illegal, then you know he has at least 15 or 20 relatives that are too. Should have a law that if one is caught, ten of his/her favorite relatives get to go too, that's what I'd like to see here. No offence to those that have succeeded through the proper channels. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 04:37:09 PM »

Our great legal system....

He acknowledges he is illegal in the US

His attorney does not ask for clemency but for his client to be deported

He is sent home on our dime and no jail time but time served....if Mass doesn't let him out on bail and he runs to Charlotte to work for a builder there
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 07:01:39 PM »

I know what I would do to the little Bas$#@d.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 07:29:56 PM »

I am a LEGAL immigrant. This is unacceptable, we need to start upholding the law. Zero amnesty, go home or go to jail. For us, the ones that chose the legal path, is even a worse slap on our faces after we had gone thru to get our residence/naturalization done. Throw him in jail, max security with the general population.
I'm with you all the crap I had to go thru to live here and these people seem to think it is their right to be here
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 07:42:17 PM »

If he's an illegal, then you know he has at least 15 or 20 relatives that are too. Should have a law that if one is caught, ten of his/her favorite relatives get to go too, that's what I'd like to see here. No offence to those that have succeeded through the proper channels. :2vrolijk_21:

...and lots of anchor babies that sponsor his citizenship 18 years later after we feed and educate them on our dime.  :veryangry:
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 07:52:04 PM »

I heard that when he was told that the person he hit was dead he shrugged his shoulders. 

I really feel for you all that choose the right way.  I know nothing of the process because my family has been here since roughly 1900.  For it to take as long as it does is ridiculous!  Damn shame.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 09:24:15 PM »

Our Government has failed on immigration. The illegals think it's their right to be here. That being said, would anybody feel better if  a drunk natural citizen had done the same thing? Don't get me wrong, I love my CAB's ( chilled adult beverages ) and think we should enforce our immigration laws. But this is still about drunk drivers,
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2011, 08:58:35 AM »

Our Government has failed on immigration. The illegals think it's their right to be here. That being said, would anybody feel better if  a drunk natural citizen had done the same thing? Don't get me wrong, I love my CAB's ( chilled adult beverages ) and think we should enforce our immigration laws. But this is still about drunk drivers,
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Our government didn't fail but rather 'one' side of our government lobyed to let this happen and for only one reason....The illegal immigrants represent a vote for this particular side of our government... When you sit back and think, it's pretty pathetic when illegal immigrants are allowed to obtain drivers licenses, Social Security Numbers, Food Stamps and social assistance and to top it off, vote for our 'one sided' government leaders....what a crock!!  :-[
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2011, 09:47:05 AM »

Our government didn't fail but rather 'one' side of our government lobyed to let this happen and for only one reason....The illegal immigrants represent a vote for this particular side of our government... When you sit back and think, it's pretty pathetic when illegal immigrants are allowed to obtain drivers licenses, Social Security Numbers, Food Stamps and social assistance and to top it off, vote for our 'one sided' government leaders....what a crock!!  :-[

Must be an American citizen to vote in national elections.  It's a Constitutional requirement.  There are a surprising number of places, however, that allow "non-citizen residents" to vote in their own local elections.  Of those an even more surprising number seem to intentionally leave their enabling legislation quite vague and don't distinguish between legal tax paying local residents and undocumented illegals.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2011, 10:04:31 AM »

Harvest his organs for the needy, cremate and use the ashes for road base.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2011, 10:09:54 AM »

Harvest his organs for the needy, cremate and use the ashes for road base.

Ash would just make a slush.  Illegal alien slush is a road hazard.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2011, 12:28:46 PM »

Immigration, what a mess.
My father's parents came from Ireland ~ 1919 and settled in Baltimore.
As a family we have done well. Most all worked and supported their families. Some fought in the wars, a few died as well.
My mother's family has been here since the early 1700s...and also done well. There was that brief slave owner thing, but even the decendants of those slaves now own much of the old property in Virginia, so we can't complain about our immigrant beginnings.
The Native Americans that were displaced are now taking revenge at the casino tables.
It all goes around and around.

The DUI issue has no defense. Someone makes a choice to drink and operate a motor vehicle should expect the full weight of society's wrath should their actions cause injury. Citizen, alien wether legal or not, from another planet or dimension...
I say put their head on a pike and LET THEM ROT.

What can we expect, we have no fiscal restraint, personal, State or Federal. We don't enforce our laws, except the easy, revenue generating ones. Our borders are a laughing stock to most other countries.

And of course we, as a country invite eveyrone to come:

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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2011, 01:42:19 PM »

Our Government has failed on immigration. The illegals think it's their right to be here. That being said, would anybody feel better if  a drunk natural citizen had done the same thing? Don't get me wrong, I love my CAB's ( chilled adult beverages ) and think we should enforce our immigration laws. But this is still about drunk drivers,
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Exactly.  If there was not a demand for the labor provided by illegal immigrants, there would be a lot fewer of them here.  Who would work in the chicken plants, on the produce farms, etc, etc, etc. ?

So, if anyone wants to blame something/somebody for this general issue, look at those who HIRE them for dirt cheap payrolls.  This ain't a new problem...neither is drunk driving, regardless of their nationality.  The only thing that really matters is that these families are changed forever.
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2011, 02:41:58 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2011, 03:00:07 PM »

I think it's all the Moderator's fault.

That goes without saying... ;)
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2011, 04:56:52 PM »

I think it's all the Moderator's fault.
That goes without saying... ;)

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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2011, 06:13:34 PM »

There's that bus again.  If it's not earthquakes, or hurricanes, it's that damned ole bus.  I agree that the primary issue here is drunk driving, but seems to be more and more illigals in our area causing accidents while driving with no insurance or even operators license.  Just buy a car, get drunk, and take off.  What's wrong with this Country?  :confused5: :'( :nixweiss: spyder
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2011, 07:36:31 PM »


What's wrong is that this country has more laws on the books than any other I can think of, but we don't enforce even a tiny percentage of them.  Unenforced rules and laws just encourage many folks to ignore all rules and laws.  And when we do apprehend and charge violators, punishment is often nothing more than a slap on the wrist and an admonishment to not do it again.  Can't imagine why we have untold numbers of multiple DUI types still riding around killing innocent folks.

I don't see this as an illegal immigrant problem, just like I didn't see another recent thread as a "woman driver" problem even though that was how the thread was titled.  It's a drunk driving problem, and it doesn't matter if the drunk is a citizen, a legal resident alien, an illegal alien, or a space alien, drunks killing innocent people with 2 ton deadly weapons need to be treated as murderers and not given a free pass.  Maybe when judges and legislators all swear off booze themselves we could see a difference.  In the meantime, we get the wink and nod system.


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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2011, 10:24:41 PM »

There's that bus again.  If it's not earthquakes, or hurricanes, it's that damned ole bus.  I agree that the primary issue here is drunk driving, but seems to be more and more illigals in our area causing accidents while driving with no insurance or even operators license.  Just buy a car, get drunk, and take off.  What's wrong with this Country?  :confused5: :'( :nixweiss: spyder

Spydy...I'm not sure if it's that, or they just get more undivded attention.  % wise, I'm not sure about the stats.  I DO know that there are a lot of folks serving time for things a lot less harmful to themselves or others.  But, WTF...we can't fix it...I'm not sure anyone will.  Too many rats in the tank...
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2011, 10:26:05 PM »

Which of you is driving and which of you is throwing?? ::) :P ;D


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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2011, 10:40:03 PM »

I'm always the driver...unless Don wants to drive.   :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Good to know... seems I'm always thrown under it so everyone has a place/purpose. ::) :P :D

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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2011, 10:45:33 PM »

Good to know... seems I'm always thrown under it so everyone has a place/purpose. ::) :P :D

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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2011, 11:06:43 PM »

Your one of the good guys, so wherever you are, it's fine... :drink: :drink:
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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2011, 03:33:15 PM »

Exactly.  If there was not a demand for the labor provided by illegal immigrants, there would be a lot fewer of them here.  Who would work in the chicken plants, on the produce farms, etc, etc, etc. ?

So, if anyone wants to blame something/somebody for this general issue, look at those who HIRE them for dirt cheap payrolls.  This ain't a new problem...neither is drunk driving, regardless of their nationality.  The only thing that really matters is that these families are changed forever.

I agree, somewhat.  If the borders were sealed and they could not get in, in the first place.  We wouldn't be having this discussion.  I blame the government for not sealing the borders.  Matter of fact the current POTUS announced that if the legislation for providing amnesty was not approved, he would make sure they weren't protected.  How about that?  Listen to Az Senator John Kyl about this issue a year ago June  

I've been following this issue very closely over the last ten years and have made some interesting contacts.  Michael Cutler http://michaelcutler.net/about/ is a retired INS (ICE) agent and works tirelessly on this issue lobbying for more controls and better security.  The greatest failure yet is at the Diplomatic level where the embassy's issue Visas.  The funding for this activity is considered low priority and the budgets are painfully low.  So, as a result when someone requests a visa for entry into our nation, they are not investigated nearly as thoroughly as should be.  Consequently, some enter our country with criminal records and undesirable backgrounds. 

On the border issues, there is no one who is more knowledgeable than Michael. 

Crossing our borders daily are illegal emigrant's from all parts of the world, not just Mexico.  They have found Muslim prayer rugs and Korans in the desert, south of Tuscon.  There are tons of drugs being carted in unabated along Arizona's border, along with thousands of who knows who and why?  All because some politicians want to get a bunch of illegal alien (today) votes later.  Bast...ds

The time is ripe for anyone who would do our nation harm to take advantage of the ignorance our leaders are demonstrating at this time.  We have NO idea how many weapons of many types have been smuggled into this country. 

The DUI issue is just the tip of the iceberg.  Our elected officials have failed us at every turn making this country safe for our children, when it comes to illegal aliens.  Time for change.

Two other resources:  https://www.facebook.com/BNINEWS  and the moderator Ferg:  https://www.facebook.com/BNINEWS#!/nafbpo  Ferg is a retired Border Patrol Officer and is very active keeping us informed on Facebook.  If you're interested, send him a friend request and tell him Ken F. sent you.

In California it is an epidemic.  There are millions in Los Angeles alone.  If anyone wonders why this state is going bankrupt, just needs to look at all the freebees being given to those who did not earn it, did not contribute nor do they have any business here. Some are even calling for the overthrow and return to Mexico the land that was lost in the War with Mexico.  That's a laugh.  They escape the squalor created by a repressive government and want to bring it up here...go figger. Nuts.

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Hit a sore spot for me on this one.  My family has been in this country since the 1700s on Mom's side and the 1850's on Dads.  My family has also served and fought in every conflict since the Revolution, including me.  I believe lawful emigration is a wonderful thing and the day we stop, is the day this country starts to die.  We need a constent flow of new talent and blood into this great nation for it to prosper.  But we do not need it unabated, and unaccounted for with felons and drunks re-entering our borders, even after several arrests.  Not to speak of potential terrorists...they're here...believe it.

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Re: Drunk Illegal Immigrant Driver Kills Rider in Massachusetts.
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2011, 03:38:49 PM »

Sorry, didn't see the hyperlink in the note above mine...hopefully I've covered it for you.
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