Topic: New charger (Read 3758 times)

longlast · « **on:** November 23, 2019, 09:27:38 AM »

Picked up this charger/trickle. Hooked it up it started out at 12.3 and has gone up to 15.5 (in pic) since posting this it's at 15.6 now. Think it's faulty

15 + V seems high or just me?

longlast · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2019, 09:35:06 AM »

Manual says it should cut out (off charging at 0.08 A) and go on to trickle

Final Charge V should cut out at 14.8 (the "A" think is a miss print)

It seems to be sitting at 15.6 V

Any thoughts,

Joel · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2019, 10:21:09 AM »

Add on a second volt meter to compare readings.
Don't want to over charge your battery to the point it begins to heat up.

iski · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2019, 12:03:33 PM »

14.6 volts is set voltage on Harley batteries. Agree, would verify with another volt meter.

Glenncarp · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2019, 02:16:33 PM »

Quote from: longlast on November 23, 2019, 09:27:38 AM

Picked up this charger/trickle. Hooked it up it started out at 12.3 and has gone up to 15.5 (in pic) since posting this it's at 15.6 now. Think it's faulty 15 + V seems high or just me?

I have made this mistake before, not for an HD charger, but several other electronic gadgets from Amazon. Found out that they take forever to arrive from China and the instruction are always in Chinenglish and the products last for a few months and quit. I have learned to spend a bit more and by a reputable brand name. Not sure if you bought a cheap knock off, but by the looks from your pic..................

Fired00d · « **Reply #5 on:** November 23, 2019, 06:26:32 PM »

Don't know about your product but have been using a Battery Tender Plus for 20 years w/no issues.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

rayson56 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 23, 2019, 08:17:42 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 23, 2019, 06:26:32 PM

Don't know about your product but have been using a Battery Tender Plus for 20 years w/no issues.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

X infinity on that! The Plus not the Jr. I have 5 of them and have never had an issue.

longlast · « **Reply #7 on:** November 23, 2019, 11:47:22 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 23, 2019, 06:26:32 PM

Don't know about your product but have been using a Battery Tender Plus for 20 years w/no issues.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

This one says much the same thing. It too goes into a floating mode (trickle) once the battery is completely charged.
My concern is it climbing up to 15.6 V before it switches over to trickle mode when the manual says in the mode with the icon motorbike/ car symbol is at 14.8 V (it says 14.8A in the manual think it's a miss print)

I checked with a second meter and the readings the same. When I disconnect the charger the readings on the battery quickly drop down and settle down at 12.9/8V range.

Your Battery Tender Plus has no display ,.....do you know how high of Voltage it goes before switching over to float/trickle maintaining mode?
Would a charge of 15.6 V hurt the battery? I realise its 3 V over a full charge of 12.5/9 but don't know if the is harmful to the battery.

grc · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2019, 10:53:22 AM »

Most so-called smart chargers have at least three stages. The initial bulk charging stage or mode (constant current) brings the battery up to approximately 75 - 80% of full charge. The next stage is called the absorption mode (constant voltage), and it's designed to bring the battery up to full charge using a higher constant voltage and tapering off the current until the battery reaches a full charge. At that point the charger goes to the third stage which is a maintenance mode that applies a voltage only slightly higher than the fully charged battery produces, usually around 13.2 volts for batteries using modern chemistry. During the absorption stage some chargers I've seen allow voltage to go as high as 15 - 16 volts. Most chargers don't have a voltmeter, so most people don't realize these things do reach higher voltages than the bike's alternator/regulator produces. For those who have a multi-meter or dedicated voltmeter, attach the voltmeter leads to the battery terminals while your Battery Tender or other brand charger is charging your discharged battery (less than 80%) and note the various voltage levels as the charge progresses. What your meter is reading is the voltage applied by the charger, not battery voltage.

The thing that kills batteries quickest is overheating, thus the old constant current chargers have become pretty much obsolete. Those had to be constantly monitored to check for excessive temperature and outgassing. Modern chargers, unless defective, take all the hassle out of monitoring the process through the use of electronics and feedback systems that self monitor and regulate the process.

I agree with Glenn, since the process is pretty much invisible to the user it would be wise to stick with well known brand names. I've developed a real distrust of the no-name Chinese stuff that can be found everywhere these days. Our friends in China have demonstrated repeatedly they have no qualms about producing knock-offs of low quality or even unsafe products. There is no one on either side of the ocean actually testing and weeding out the fakes or the defective/unsafe products. Never assume the US regulatory agencies check incoming shipments, they do not.

JMHO - Jerry

Fired00d · « **Reply #9 on:** November 24, 2019, 11:11:18 AM »

Quote from: longlast on November 23, 2019, 11:47:22 PM

….

Your Battery Tender Plus has no display ,.....do you know how high of Voltage it goes before switching over to float/trickle maintaining mode?
Would a charge of 15.6 V hurt the battery? I realise its 3 V over a full charge of 12.5/9 but don't know if the is harmful to the battery.

No display and I never bothered to check voltage... I've had one and it has worked for 20 years that's good enough for me.

Sometimes to much info can mislead or worry you.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

longlast · « **Reply #10 on:** November 24, 2019, 12:49:23 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 24, 2019, 11:11:18 AM

No display and I never bothered to check voltage... I've had one and it has worked for 20 years that's good enough for me. Sometimes to much info can mislead or worry you.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

No truer words said there.
This has all come about because I've been using a motobat charger but it doesn't have a trickle charge mode. It would charge up to 14.6V then shut down and not turn on again unless I unplug it and plug it back in again then it would start charging again. It had no display.

rayson56 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 24, 2019, 01:27:40 PM »

Extremely well put Jerry, best explanation I've seen or heard. The electronics including the microprocessor in Deltrans' Battery Tender Plus has been touted as the best and most reliable on the market, but I'm no electrician. I just know that they work from experience.

bpf · « **Reply #12 on:** November 24, 2019, 01:56:04 PM »

I know this chart, sorry it is in French, but the words used by grc just show up:

I guess a similar one could be found in English ("batterie classique" -> lead+acid). The highest voltage is 14.7V. I have a rig that can display the battery voltage, I never saw it over 14.8. 15.6 really seems to too high. Why not have a look at the battery's manufacturer site? There should be some datasheet of the battery, or a way to contact the manufacturer.

longlast · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2019, 02:14:08 PM »

Quote from: grc on November 24, 2019, 10:53:22 AM

Most so-called smart chargers have at least three stages. The initial bulk charging stage or mode (constant current) brings the battery up to approximately 75 - 80% of full charge. The next stage is called the absorption mode (constant voltage), and it's designed to bring the battery up to full charge using a higher constant voltage and tapering off the current until the battery reaches a full charge. At that point the charger goes to the third stage which is a maintenance mode that applies a voltage only slightly higher than the fully charged battery produces, usually around 13.2 volts for batteries using modern chemistry. During the absorption stage some chargers I've seen allow voltage to go as high as 15 - 16 volts. Most chargers don't have a voltmeter, so most people don't realize these things do reach higher voltages than the bike's alternator/regulator produces. For those who have a multi-meter or dedicated voltmeter, attach the voltmeter leads to the battery terminals while your Battery Tender or other brand charger is charging your discharged battery (less than 80%) and note the various voltage levels as the charge progresses. What your meter is reading is the voltage applied by the charger, not battery voltage.

The thing that kills batteries quickest is overheating, thus the old constant current chargers have become pretty much obsolete. Those had to be constantly monitored to check for excessive temperature and outgassing. Modern chargers, unless defective, take all the hassle out of monitoring the process through the use of electronics and feedback systems that self monitor and regulate the process.

I agree with Glenn, since the process is pretty much invisible to the user it would be wise to stick with well known brand names. I've developed a real distrust of the no-name Chinese stuff that can be found everywhere these days. Our friends in China have demonstrated repeatedly they have no qualms about producing knock-offs of low quality or even unsafe products. There is no one on either side of the ocean actually testing and weeding out the fakes or the defective/unsafe products. Never assume the US regulatory agencies check incoming shipments, they do not.

JMHO - Jerry

Just as you described Jerry,
I've been keeping a close eye on this one and it does go though the same 3 mode like you described. After monitoring this for the past couple days and doing volt checks to the battery the battery is at a holding charge of12.6/7 V .
Today I've put the ignition on as well as the head fans and all lights I let the battery drop to 11.3V.
I then monitored the charging it went through 3 mode stages, started with the display of 0.8V change displaying with the battery icon flashing with 3 bars then it changed to a display of 14.6V with battery icon still flashing and battery icon bars climbing, then the battery icon stopped flashing with full bars in the icon display and went to continues elimination the trickle mode the volts then climbed to 15.6V and maintained at that Voltage. After being on steady for 6hrs the Voltage has fallen off to 15.1V
I'll be leaving it hooked up and checking on it before I turn in then see how it is in the mornin
This is the first automatic charger guess maybe I'm just being a hard habit to break.

longlast · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2019, 02:35:44 PM »

Quote from: bpf on November 24, 2019, 01:56:04 PM

I know this chart, sorry it is in French, but the words used by grc just show up:

I guess a similar one could be found in English ("batterie classique" -> lead+acid). The highest voltage is 14.7V. I have a rig that can display the battery voltage, I never saw it over 14.8. 15.6 really seems to too high. Why not have a look at the battery's manufacturer site? There should be some datasheet of the battery, or a way to contact the manufacturer.

Thanks for the chart bpf,

The 15.6V isn't the battery Voltage it's Voltage the charger is putting out to the battery.

I believe the way it works the more the battery becomes fully charged the more resistance there is to the Voltage being put into it that the charger reads and the unit automatically reduces the input voltage.
I haven't had it on long enough yet to see/know were it will settle.

grc · « **Reply #15 on:** November 24, 2019, 10:33:14 PM »

You shouldn't be getting 15 volts in the maintenance (float) mode, only slightly over 13 volts. The approximately 15 volts should be the second stage of the process. If you are really getting 15 volts from the charger in the float mode (trickle, maintenance, whatever they call it), that is too high.

Jerry

longlast · « **Reply #16 on:** November 25, 2019, 12:35:53 AM »

Thanks Jerry, I agree.
And yes like most of the electronic things now a days it's a product made specifically for the store from China. It hard to find things that say made in the UK any more.

I've disconnected it.
I'm going to return it l got it from a local place in town called Halfords an auto gadget store.

The Voltage reading was slowly dropping when it was in it's 3rd stage the float/ trickle mode it was showing a reading of 15V. I did a battery Voltage check it was at 12.9V (charger disconnected)

Then the last check I made the charger display was showing 15.8V that's higher then what the manuals final charge Voltage in the cold charge column of 3.8A that is 15.5V. final Voltage

Seeing it going to 15.8V after it had been on for roughly 10hrs Nope I don't trust it.

Looks like it's back to the old school way with the motobatt charger "check and charge,...check and charge for now.

longlast · « **Reply #17 on:** November 25, 2019, 07:36:28 AM »

Deed done,....returned it this mornin

Fired00d · « **Reply #18 on:** November 25, 2019, 08:44:30 AM »

Is the Battery Tender Plus available across the pond?

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

longlast · « **Reply #19 on:** November 25, 2019, 11:15:13 AM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 25, 2019, 08:44:30 AM

Is the Battery Tender Plus available across the pond?

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Looks like it is on eBay.

Would it be this one that is 12v 1.25A tender you'd recommend?

description
A 1.25A battery charger designed to fully charge a battery and maintain it at proper storage voltage without the damaging effects caused by trickle chargers.

Included is a quick connect ring terminal harness for hard to reach areas, and alligator clips for an alternate connection.

Key Features:

Output: 12 Volts DC @ 1.25 Amps
Automatically switches from full charge to float charging mode
Reverse Polarity Protection to ensure user safety. Red & Green lights flash alternately in this condition
Complete 4-step charging program
Safety timer: 72 hours....................What does this mean? It turns off after 72 hrs? If so I wouldn't want that
Agency Approvals: UL/CSA/BC
5-year warranty

grc · « **Reply #20 on:** November 25, 2019, 11:59:10 AM »

The 72 hour safety feature only kicks in if the charger runs that long in bulk charging mode and doesn't shift to absorption mode. See attached specification sheet.

Jerry

Fired00d · « **Reply #21 on:** November 25, 2019, 12:27:44 PM »

Quote from: longlast on November 25, 2019, 11:15:13 AM

Looks like it is on eBay.

Would it be this one that is 12v 1.25A tender you'd recommend?

description
A 1.25A battery charger designed to fully charge a battery and maintain it at proper storage voltage without the damaging effects caused by trickle chargers.

Included is a quick connect ring terminal harness for hard to reach areas, and alligator clips for an alternate connection.

Key Features:

Output: 12 Volts DC @ 1.25 Amps
Automatically switches from full charge to float charging mode
Reverse Polarity Protection to ensure user safety. Red & Green lights flash alternately in this condition
Complete 4-step charging program
Safety timer: 72 hours....................What does this mean? It turns off after 72 hrs? If so I wouldn't want that
Agency Approvals: UL/CSA/BC
5-year warranty

That is not the one that I supplied the link to... also w/the recent appearance of "fake" products on Ebay and Amazon I would buy direct from Battery Tender or locally vs online.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

rayson56 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 25, 2019, 12:42:26 PM »

This is the one that I have that's been around for years.

http://products.batterytender.com/Dion/Battery-TenderR-Plus.html

The one in the plastic case pictured above I've seen at Costco and supposedly works the same but appears to have half of the warranty.

rayson56 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 25, 2019, 01:15:41 PM »

Breaking news!!! Just did a little research for you folks across the pond. Since Deltron doesn't show any European applications for their Battery Tenders I called them and found out that Harleys 2 chargers are made by Deltron and are in fact a version of the Battery Tender Jr. and the Battery Tender Plus which are also made for the European market. So....even though you'll probably pay a premium through Harley, that's the only way they are available over there.

Hope this helps

longlast · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2019, 01:22:13 PM »

Quote from: rayson56 on November 25, 2019, 12:42:26 PM

This is the one that I have that's been around for years.

http://products.batterytender.com/Dion/Battery-TenderR-Plus.html

The one in the plastic case pictured above I've seen at Costco and supposedly works the same but appears to have half of the warranty.

I noticed that as well only 5yr warranty from a video I saw they say 10yr warranty.

Quote from: grc on November 25, 2019, 11:59:10 AM

The 72 hour safety feature only kicks in if the charger runs that long in bulk charging mode and doesn't shift to absorption mode. See attached specification sheet.

Jerry

Cheers, I couldn't fine the explanation of it

longlast · « **Reply #25 on:** November 25, 2019, 01:27:20 PM »

Quote from: rayson56 on November 25, 2019, 01:15:41 PM

Breaking news!!! Just did a little research for you folks across the pond. Since Deltron doesn't show any European applications for their Battery Tenders I called them and found out that Harleys 2 chargers are made by Deltron and are in fact a version of the Battery Tender Jr. and the Battery Tender Plus which are also made for the European market. So....even though you'll probably pay a premium through Harley, that's the only way they are available over there.

Hope this helps

Cheers for the effort, I've seen the Deltron ones on my searching

rayson56 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 25, 2019, 01:35:07 PM »

Deltron is the manufacturer of Battery Tender.

longlast · « **Reply #27 on:** November 25, 2019, 01:41:13 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 25, 2019, 12:27:44 PM

That is not the one that I supplied the link to... also w/the recent appearance of "fake" products on Ebay and Amazon I would buy direct from Battery Tender or locally vs online.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

I found this one think it's the same as your link it's from your side of the pond. Problem is that its 70 for the unit and 66 to have it shipped

iski · « **Reply #28 on:** November 25, 2019, 02:24:53 PM »

Quote from: longlast on November 25, 2019, 01:41:13 PM

I found this one think it's the same as your link it's from your side of the pond. Problem is that its 70 for the unit and 66 to have it shipped

That is a problem. Deltron tenders are very reliable. Have only had one fail & they replaced it several years after I bought it with no problems.

Good luck on your search to find a good, reliable & affordable one. Things that used to be so easy to get have become complicated these days.

Fired00d · « **Reply #29 on:** November 25, 2019, 05:02:38 PM »

Quote from: rayson56 on November 25, 2019, 01:15:41 PM

Breaking news!!! Just did a little research for you folks across the pond. Since Deltron doesn't show any European applications for their Battery Tenders I called them and found out that Harleys 2 chargers are made by Deltron and are in fact a version of the Battery Tender Jr. and the Battery Tender Plus which are also made for the European market. So....even though you'll probably pay a premium through Harley, that's the only way they are available over there.

Hope this helps

I own two... first one (which I still have) was the Harley branded by Deltron, second one is the Battery Tender branded.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Fired00d · « **Reply #30 on:** November 25, 2019, 05:07:44 PM »

Quote from: longlast on November 25, 2019, 01:41:13 PM

I found this one think it's the same as your link it's from your side of the pond. Problem is that its 70 for the unit and 66 to have it shipped

That is the one I have... as rayson56 mentioned you can get the H-D branded and if it's cheaper than what you can get the Battery Tender branded one go for it.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Fired00d · « **Reply #31 on:** November 25, 2019, 05:23:09 PM »

Attached is a picture of my original H-D Battery Tender that I got back in the late 90's. Back then they actually had "Battery Tender Plus" on the faceplate. As you can see back then they looked exactly like the current (and past) Deltran ones only difference is the colors and MoCo branding. The box has the part number on it if you want to see if you can find a NOS one.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

longlast · « **Reply #32 on:** November 25, 2019, 07:51:33 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 25, 2019, 05:23:09 PM

Attached is a picture of my original H-D Battery Tender that I got back in the late 90's. Back then they actually had "Battery Tender Plus" on the faceplate. As you can see back then they looked exactly like the current (and past) Deltran ones only difference is the colors and MoCo branding. The box has the part number on it if you want to see if you can find a NOS one.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Think that ones on a long forgotten shelf.

It seems the best I can come up with that's supplied over here is this on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Deltran-Battery-Tender-Plus-Battery-Charger-12V-1-25A-Waterproof/381573985128?epid=19026554165&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item58d794f368:g:4AYAAOSwdrpcABgK&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qW4ll3hCmJnM9YB%2FfL703oNM8Ve9%2FAaOTAEsN3P1m7ZlogQFTG0QyKCiMHDaEXJWRVSgFgJwiDQmM422owIFlbTOB27Ty%2BJBr%2B%2FB45sSQJ7tzxHL%2BjijOLX91PvJ6LXH%2BBCNxgCGU0zN8KPtqU7goHzl6yOEgNcmLBOn55qTOxWmTyxCF7cbXSetl6gTZF3ekB8yQZFhGyVZfBdKMgaH8TabAJWBEgl4KvIB30x8VgRcPD0qyuZdAlr%2FACrwfZ6JtBaxC0WxwIvY89n45QQCcIGW9Npn8zPt1%2FRuBv2i3MXElZOEzwNAHsz2eKsXISp0LFe8eGfQZ5MGV4MYOnfEeiZXlHMKmoeJZN9ufIs0cUEZdHKZ7o6jBIz7AIfHW5pOIbB0ppo273%2FIcPSHkKuV72zHyCrnAQ8xy1eMhD%2BXkNpsCoUtZA%2B7IAvB95kcG6nP5QzvGwkOxO5BzgUNQhpzTEUfha2V80aKXUBEDHuC6ZUDQFKXR8dkzHpQGSNXwK7cPucr%2BT6686%2BV%2BB7yXY9OSmwRc3I91QzZLVELS3S27WmxOAUFSsWa235CbIyFW9xqU3ZbkJS0OuD%2FK1POfS353Z5A18PKb4g4VvktGp5RcQW9GwgNS5aPnt96Sv%2BGMMQiWXbTr4U3M6AJV5MAF03EnqsFv0GlkF6hTAj86rJL64KxKXBvbF9rI9Rl8NjKz6DQAJ6tDJztSdU9FyFU50NxXcyXFlJef03LuzXM2vdCGQEyg%3D%3D&checksum=38157398512809ae0702de7f4a408cad1b00459b0e59&enc=AQAEAAACQBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qW4ll3hCmJnM9YB%2FfL703oNM8Ve9%2FAaOTAEsN3P1m7ZlogQFTG0QyKCiMHDaEXJWRVSgFgJwiDQmM422owIFlbTOB27Ty%2BJBr%2B%2FB45sSQJ7tzxHL%2BjijOLX91PvJ6LXH%2BBCNxgCGU0zN8KPtqU7goHzl6yOEgNcmLBOn55qTOxWmTyxCF7cbXSetl6gTZF3ekB8yQZFhGyVZfBdKMgaH8TabAJWBEgl4KvIB30x8VgRcPD0qyuZdAlr%2FACrwfZ6JtBaxC0WxwIvY89n45QQCcIGW9Npn8zPt1%2FRuBv2i3MXElZOEzwNAHsz2eKsXISp0LFe8eGfQZ5MGV4MYOnfEeiZXlHMKmoeJZN9ufIs0cUEZdHKZ7o6jBIz7AIfHW5pOIbB0ppo273%2FIcPSHkKuV72zHyCrnAQ8xy1eMhD%2BXkNpsCoUtZA%2B7IAvB95kcG6nP5QzvGwkOxO5BzgUNQhpzTEUfha2V80aKXUBEDHuC6ZUDQFKXR8dkzHpQGSNXwK7cPucr%2BT6686%2BV%2BB7yXY9OSmwRc3I91QzZLVELS3S27WmxOAUFSsWa235CbIyFW9xqU3ZbkJS0OuD%2FK1POfS353Z5A18PKb4g4VvktGp5RcQW9GwgNS5aPnt96Sv%2BGMMQiWXbTr4U3M6AJV5MAF03EnqsFv0GlkF6hTAj86rJL64KxKXBvbF9rI9Rl8NjKz6DQAJ6tDJztSdU9FyFU50NxXcyXFlJef03LuzXM2vdCGQEyg%3D%3D&checksum=38157398512809ae0702de7f4a408cad1b00459b0e59

longlast · « **Reply #33 on:** November 27, 2019, 02:11:50 PM »

I called my local HD dealer to ask them what they had the parts fella said they had one in stock p/n# 66000183 at 66.00 but if I go on their online Ebay store and make a fare offer he would honour it.
Found it on there and made an offer of 55.00 he honoured it (that included shipping) should have it in a couple of days

Made Correction on p/n

rayson56 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 28, 2019, 12:00:24 PM »

Good job! Great product

longlast · « **Reply #35 on:** November 28, 2019, 02:32:59 PM »

I got to laugh "or pull out my finger nails"

After all the searching for suppliers for a Daltran Battery Tender Plus here in the UK without any success I gave in and went with the HD charger.

I was just browsing (surfin the Net) and this popped up,.........unbelievable

https://www.arhcustom.co.uk/products/motorcycle-parts-and-accessories/electrical/battery-chargers/441#page-1

iski · « **Reply #36 on:** November 28, 2019, 02:36:23 PM »

I can relate to that.

It reminds me of closing the barn door after all the horses have escaped.

longlast · « **Reply #37 on:** November 29, 2019, 10:56:05 AM »

It arrived today 1hr earlier then delivery notification.
Got it wired in and power on. It powered up to 14.4 v then stopped charging a green light started flashing and battery Voltage started dropping off, the battery Voltage dropped off 13.0v then the green light stopped flashing and turned solid green.
The battery Voltage is now floating between 13.04/5/6v then back to 13.04 v and starts over again.

That should put an end to all the battery Voltage checking I've been having to do,....just a glance at the chargers lights.

There's not anything about any time of warranty 6 months 1 year 2 years

not concerned though I now know where I can get the Daltran chargers now.

Thank for all the input it was all great help

Having one for you all Ahh,.. what the h### I'll have 3

Fired00d · « **Reply #38 on:** November 29, 2019, 02:04:58 PM »

Quote from: longlast on November 29, 2019, 10:56:05 AM

It arrived today 1hr earlier then delivery notification.
Got it wired in and power on. It powered up to 14.4 v then stopped charging a green light started flashing and battery Voltage started dropping off, the battery Voltage dropped off 13.0v then the green light stopped flashing and turned solid green.
The battery Voltage is now floating between 13.04/5/6v then back to 13.04 v and starts over again.

That should put an end to all the battery Voltage checking I've been having to do,....just a glance at the chargers lights.

There's not anything about any time of warranty 6 months 1 year 2 years not concerned though I now know where I can get the Daltran chargers now.

Thank for all the input it was all great help Having one for you all Ahh,.. what the h### I'll have 3

I believe there will be a one year warranty (USA Parts & Accessories Warranty). You now have a Deltran charger (that's who makes them for H-D) it just has the MoCo logo/faceplate.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

rayson56 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:59:50 PM »

Deltran comes with a 10 year warranty unless otherwise noted.

Fired00d · « **Reply #40 on:** November 29, 2019, 05:00:29 PM »

Quote from: rayson56 on November 29, 2019, 03:59:50 PM

Deltran comes with a 10 year warranty unless otherwise noted.

True.... Battery Tender/Deltran warranty is 10 years unless otherwise noted as you stated. However I would bet that when the MoCo stripped the Battery Tender/Deltran label they (MoCo) will only warranty it for 1 year, and the fact that Battery Tender/Deltran isn't labeled on it they might not honor a 10 year warranty. My guess is that is one of the reasons the MoCo no longer has "Battery Tender Plus" on the labeling so they don't have to warranty them for 10 years and releases Battery Tender/Deltran from honoring their 10 year warranty.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

longlast · « **Reply #41 on:** November 29, 2019, 06:50:38 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on November 29, 2019, 02:04:58 PM

I believe there will be a one year warranty (USA Parts & Accessories Warranty). You now have a Deltran charger (that's who makes them for H-D) it just has the MoCo logo/faceplate.

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Fired00d

I've just taken a look at the Daltran range of chargers by "arhcustom" that I found (after I over paid for this one from HD) over here and it's pretty much the same to the Daltran junior 800. https://www.arhcustom.co.uk/product/deltran-battery-tender-junior-12v-800-selectable-lead-acid-lithium-charger-022-0199-dl-wh/42041 The description on this doesn't shows any warranty time on it ether.
It does seem that I now have a Daltran

Not done too bad thow as far as batteries go I've only replaced it once since new in 2007 it was bought/registered in 2008. I got the bike in 2011 replaced the stock battery in 2015. This is the first year I've pluged in constantly.

CVODON · « **Reply #42 on:** November 30, 2019, 08:38:04 AM »

For anyone going to Daytona Bikeweek Deltran is located in Deland. I took my first one back as it was no longer lighting the indicators. They checked it while I waited and handed me a new one.
Very nice to deal with and the factory is right on 92 just as you enter Deland. Short ride from Daytona.

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