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[chesterc]

I just bought the Harley  dual Hal. Headlight and new Hal. spots to put on my 04 SE Electra-Glide, now I want to upgrade the stock bulbs thats in them, the spots are 27Wts , headlight has 35/55 wts I think these are right, I have already moved my spots to the fender tip light circuit, (which has my MP3 Player on it) so that reduces the load a little, so my question is what would be the best to get at the local auto store for better light,  Silver star? or Ect??   I know they make 35 and 55 wt for the spots, and they are numerous bulbs for the head light, what would be good for the head light, I've seen 90/100 wt from kuryakyn and I hear of the H letters, just confused as to the max I can put on and not melt anything, thanks for any info,

[Twolanerider]

Chester, the stock reflectors aren't very good.  That dual bulb reflector isn't much better.  In combination with regular bulbs it's just a poor headlight.  The best thing we've collectively found for headlight upgrade is going to HID.  With that housing you've got it's a simple chore.  Not inexpensive, but easy to do. 

It's also about the only way you can guarantee not outrunning your headlight's effectiveness.

[skreminegul07]

Chester, the stock reflectors aren't very good.  That dual bulb reflector isn't much better.  In combination with regular bulbs it's just a poor headlight.  The best thing we've collectively found for headlight upgrade is going to HID.  With that housing you've got it's a simple chore.  Not inexpensive, but easy to do. 

It's also about the only way you can guarantee not outrunning your headlight's effectiveness.

Nicely stated.

[Twolanerider]

And thanks to a link that Puzzled posted earlier we know of HID kits at less cost than those that had been most common here before.  Much less cost.  Here's a dual H9 kit for your new reflector housing for $120.00.

http://www.xenonlink.com/product_info.php?cPath=115_118&products_id=165

[hard10]

And thanks to a link that Puzzled posted earlier we know of HID kits at less cost than those that had been most common here before.  Much less cost.  Here's a dual H9 kit for your new reflector housing for $120.00.

http://www.xenonlink.com/product_info.php?cPath=115_118&products_id=165

Has anyone tried these? Do you know what else is needed besides the bulb for installation? How difficult is it to install? (i.e. is it a job I can do or should I leave it for Chief?)

[Twolanerider]

Has anyone tried these? Do you know what else is needed besides the bulb for installation? How difficult is it to install? (i.e. is it a job I can do or should I leave it for Chief?)

Puzzled described doing an H4 install.  Looking at the site's pictures and descriptions the kits are complete.  Or at least as complete as they can for our uses.  We might need a few terminals or something to complete bringing it all together.  But nothing expensive beyond what they provide.

It's a kit that combines ballast and igniter.  That space saving and lack of another set of connections is nice for our purposes.  Installing the lights isn't a touch chore AJ.  Get a couple of longnecks and go for it.

[hard10]

Puzzled described doing an H4 install.  Looking at the site's pictures and descriptions the kits are complete.  Or at least as complete as they can for our uses.  We might need a few terminals or something to complete bringing it all together.  But nothing expensive beyond what they provide.

It's a kit that combines ballast and igniter.  That space saving and lack of another set of connections is nice for our purposes.  Installing the lights isn't a touch chore AJ.  Get a couple of longnecks and go for it.

That being said, is this the part I need for my bike?

"Here's a dual H9 kit for your new reflector housing for $120.00.

http://www.xenonlink.com/product_info.php?cPath=115_118&products_id=165"

The H9 8000K?

[Twolanerider]

That being said, is this the part I need for my bike?

"Here's a dual H9 kit for your new reflector housing for $120.00.

http://www.xenonlink.com/product_info.php?cPath=115_118&products_id=165"

The H9 8000K?

AJ, I can't ever remember which years got which headlight reflector.  If you've got the dual bulb reflector that's the kit you want.  The color temp (the 8000k) is as much a matter of personal preference as anything else.  The "whiter" your color temp the closer it will look to your spotlights.  8000k will look almost frost blue compared to your spotlights

I don't think you've got the single bulb reflector like the 04s and 05s did stock.  If you do, however, you'd need a single bulb kit rather than a dual bulb H9 kit.

[hard10]

AJ, I can't ever remember which years got which headlight reflector.  If you've got the dual bulb reflector that's the kit you want.  The color temp (the 8000k) is as much a matter of personal preference as anything else.  The "whiter" your color temp the closer it will look to your spotlights.  8000k will look almost frost blue compared to your spotlights

I don't think you've got the single bulb reflector like the 04s and 05s did stock.  If you do, however, you'd need a single bulb kit rather than a dual bulb H9 kit.

So what... go pull the fairing? Alright, I've got the service manual right here.

[Twolanerider]

So what... go pull the fairing? Alright, I've got the service manual right here.

No, you can tell just by looking at the nose.  You'll see either two separate bulbs one over the other or just one single bulb in the middle.  Pretty sure yours is the dual bulb reflector though.

[Twolanerider]

Dual bulb reflector.

[hard10]

It's almost 4 in the morning, do you really think I'm going downstairs to look? I'm in my jammies.
P/N 68096-04 High Beam Halogen, P/N 68881-01 low beam halogen
2 bulbs. I guess that means the H9 in whatever color.

[hard10]

Dual bulb reflector.

Damn you're good!

[Twolanerider]

It's almost 4 in the morning, do you really think I'm going downstairs to look? I'm in my jammies.
P/N 68096-04 High Beam Halogen, P/N 68881-01 low beam halogen
2 bulbs. I guess that means the H9 in whatever color.

You wear jammies?

[Twolanerider]

Damn you're good!

Remembered seeing it recently.  A picture is worth... something.  I always forget that line .

[hard10]

You wear jammies?

 

Do you really want the mental image of me sitting on the couch while typing on the computer naked?

[Twolanerider]

Do you really want the mental image of me sitting on the couch while typing on the computer naked?

My bad.... 

[Twolanerider]

[hard10]

Do you really want the mental image of me sitting on the couch while typing on the computer naked?

My bad.... 

...now surrounded by parts books and 3 dogs sleeping?

[Twolanerider]

whew, that's better....

[hard10]

whew, that's better....

Yeah but I'm still naked.

See what the group misses in the early hours!

[Twolanerider]

...now surrounded by parts books and 3 dogs sleeping?

I've got the parts books handy.  But my dog has abandoned.  A friend is here tonight and Dizzy likes her better.  When I wandered in to the office an hour ago I looked back at the dog thinking "hey girl, you want to hang out with me?"  Got a look like "are you kidding?"

[Twolanerider]

Yeah but I'm still naked.

See what the group misses in the early hours!

I am not naked.  Feet were cold so grabbed socks.

[Twolanerider]

See what the group misses in the early hours!

Ever wonder if we bother the European's breakfast ?

[hard10]

I've got the parts books handy.  But my dog has abandoned.  A friend is here tonight and Dizzy likes her better.  When I wandered in to the office an hour ago I looked back at the dog thinking "hey girl, you want to hang out with me?"  Got a look like "are you kidding?"

I've got 2 in the livingroom with me and the other is in the bathroom with his head out the door just looking up with those bloodshot eyes saying "why are you laughing"

[hard10]

Ever wonder if we bother the European's breakfast ?

Nah, they just spew their coffee.

[Twolanerider]

Nah, they just spew their coffee.

Since they're not sharing I'm not going to worry about it.  Meanies.


I think we just jacked the bulb thread AJ.

[hard10]

Since they're not sharing I'm not going to worry about it.  Meanies.


I think we just jacked the bulb thread AJ.

We didn't hijack anything. You helped me find out what bulbs I need. Now I just have to wait for Chuck to get back from Daytona. He said they got soaking wet leaving the race track but made it to the hotel in JAX. He called at 1:30 knowing I'd be awake.

[Twolanerider]

He called at 1:30 knowing I'd be awake.

At least we're predictable... 

[hard10]

At least we're predictable... 

Well dogols has joined us this morning and I haven't heard him spew his coffee yet, so I guess we didn't ruin anyone day (yet  ).

[Twolanerider]

Well dogols has joined us this morning and I haven't heard him spew his coffee yet, so I guess we didn't ruin anyone day (yet  ).

I'm going to give up and go back to bed soon.  Feel it catching me finally.  Don't be annoying alone.  Save it and do it when a friend is there to help .

[hard10]

I'm going to give up and go back to bed soon.  Feel it catching me finally.  Don't be annoying alone.  Save it and do it when a friend is there to help .

I'm with ya. Good night.

[Sean M Cary]

I am not naked.  Feet were cold so grabbed socks.

Man, I gotta say, that I glad that most of us were NOT there...   

Sean

[Twolanerider]

Man, I gotta say, that I glad that most of us were NOT there...   

Sean

See there AJ.  We were annoying.

[Sean M Cary]

See there AJ.  We were annoying.

Just had a delayed reaction...

[ccr]

Hey folks, I have the 05 SEEG, but when I ride behind my husband on his 04 SEEG I completely blind him.  If I turn my spots off, better for him, but then I have almost nothing from the single bulb to see the hi way very good.  If I ride with the single bulb, because my visitability is lessened, I slow down and then I am further behind him than normal and he says that single bulb is blinding. I can't turn the lights off, obviously even if I could I wouldn't want to. Is there something I can buy to make my lights good enough for me to see, but not blinding when following someone?

[hard10]

Hey folks, I have the 05 SEEG, but when I ride behind my husband on his 04 SEEG I completely blind him.  If I turn my spots off, better for him, but then I have almost nothing from the single bulb to see the hi way very good.  If I ride with the single bulb, because my visitability is lessened, I slow down and then I am further behind him than normal and he says that single bulb is blinding. I can't turn the lights off, obviously even if I could I wouldn't want to. Is there something I can buy to make my lights good enough for me to see, but not blinding when following someone?

See 2ln, there Candy goes bringing us back to reality.

Now do you have an answer for the nice lady?

[hard10]

See there AJ.  We were annoying.

Oh, BTW... you were annoying, I was going with the flow.

[Twolanerider]

Oh, BTW... you were annoying, I was going with the flow.

I know, you were leading.  I was in trail.  Had to be.

[Twolanerider]

Hey folks, I have the 05 SEEG, but when I ride behind my husband on his 04 SEEG I completely blind him.  If I turn my spots off, better for him, but then I have almost nothing from the single bulb to see the hi way very good.  If I ride with the single bulb, because my visitability is lessened, I slow down and then I am further behind him than normal and he says that single bulb is blinding. I can't turn the lights off, obviously even if I could I wouldn't want to. Is there something I can buy to make my lights good enough for me to see, but not blinding when following someone?

Candy, can't say for sure of course.  But what you're describing might just be your headlight beind adjusted a bit too high.

Your bike would have had a single bulb headlight in it from the factory.  That one bulb has both high and low beam functions.  So unless you'e changed the headlight housing at some time it is just one bulb you are blinding your husband with.  Adjusted a bit too high and they can be hell on cars in front of us or oncoming traffic though.

[Twolanerider]

See 2ln, there Candy goes bringing us back to reality.

Now do you have an answer for the nice lady?

   ^   

[hard10]

Not to get 2ln going again tonight but I have a question:
where do I put all the items that come in this kit? Is there enough room inside the light housing for those two big boxes?

[Twolanerider]

Not to get 2ln going again tonight but I have a question:
where do I put all the items that come in this kit? Is there enough room inside the light housing for those two big boxes?

Up yo.... ummmm, never mind.

There's not much there really.  The bulbs (#1) go in place of the old ones. 

The combination ballast/ignitor #2 goes in any convenient place you can put it.  Double sided taped somewhere against the inner fairing, tie wrapped to a bracket, just wherever it's happy and safe.

The harnesses to each (#3) will pick up power and ground.  Will fire one each from the high and low beam headlight wires.  But it's just wire.  You're not really taking up any consequential amount of space here.

The rest of the stuff shown is just the mounting, tieing or hold down bits to accomplish all of the above.

[hard10]

Up yo.... ummmm, never mind.

There's not much there really.  The bulbs (#1) go in place of the old ones. 

The combination ballast/ignitor #2 goes in any convenient place you can put it.  Double sided taped somewhere against the inner fairing, tie wrapped to a bracket, just wherever it's happy and safe.

The harnesses to each (#3) will pick up power and ground.  Will fire one each from the high and low beam headlight wires.  But it's just wire.  You're not really taking up any consequential amount of space here.

The rest of the stuff shown is just the mounting, tieing or hold down bits to accomplish all of the above.

There is room in the fairing for them? They look kinda big.

[Twolanerider]

There is room in the fairing for them? They look kinda big.

There will be plenty of room.  You'll be hurting more than others with the bluetooth harness tucked up inside your fairing as you've got it.  But there will still be plenty of room. 

Think about all the crap stuck in mine.  If all that fits you're golden.

[hard10]

With all this said, which spot light replacement do I need?

[vagabond6542]

Do you really want the mental image of me sitting on the couch while typing on the computer naked?

Please don't give out that image, I would have to do a "Hogbreath" thing. Go find a a pig and go butcher it to get it out of my memory.

[Twolanerider]

With all this said, which spot light replacement do I need?

That has been the difficult question.  Even when using 5000k color temp HID bulbs I don't remember anyone finding a spotlight that was a good visual match. 

Chuck was going to try HID spots but the bulbs wouldn't fit in the light housings.  This mftr might (or might not) be different there.  Using HIDs in the spots would also mean another pair of ballasts inside the fairing.  If I knew the bulbs would fit I'd do it anyway.  Especially for the cost of this mftr's kits. 

I tried a couple different spot bulbs.  All marketed as being at least a comparable color temp to the HIDs I'm using.  Not even close. 

So either bite the bullet and get good light while just not worrying about the visual distinction between the old and new bulbs or, if the uglyness really grates on you, leave your spots turned off.

[vagabond6542]

That has been the difficult question.  Even when using 5000k color temp HID bulbs I don't remember anyone finding a spotlight that was a good visual match. 

Chuck was going to try HID spots but the bulbs wouldn't fit in the light housings.  This mftr might (or might not) be different there.  Using HIDs in the spots would also mean another pair of ballasts inside the fairing.  If I knew the bulbs would fit I'd do it anyway.  Especially for the cost of this mftr's kits. 

I tried a couple different spot bulbs.  All marketed as being at least a comparable color temp to the HIDs I'm using.  Not even close. 

So either bite the bullet and get good light while just not worrying about the visual distinction between the old and new bulbs or, if the uglyness really grates on you, leave your spots turned off.

Weren't there some new Haligen lamps that went to the temp range of the HID's?
I don't think the reflectors will suffer with a stronger wattage.

[Twolanerider]

Weren't there some new Haligen lamps that went to the temp range of the HID's?

I've had a couple that were advertised to be that color temp.  No match though.  They are absolutely "bluer" than a standard halogen.  They're not even a close match to the HID bulbs though. 

You also have to be careful with some of these.  The blue look of the HID bulbs (or purple or most other colors) isn't really the color of the light but a byproduct that is in some controllable.  The "white" light is still out there.  That's important because a truly blue light would be about the worst thing possible for us to actually see with.

Many of the halogen bulbs that are made to look blue or have a color temp in the 8000k range actually use some kind of shroud either over or impregnated in the glass.  In those it is the blue light that escapes.  So no matter what they look like they're crap for effectiveness shining down the road.

[vagabond6542]

I've had a couple that were advertised to be that color temp.  No match though.  They are absolutely "bluer" than a standard halogen.  They're not even a close match to the HID bulbs though. 

You also have to be careful with some of these.  The blue look of the HID bulbs (or purple or most other colors) isn't really the color of the light but a byproduct that is in some controllable.  The "white" light is still out there.  That's important because a truly blue light would be about the worst thing possible for us to actually see with.

Many of the halogen bulbs that are made to look blue or have a color temp in the 8000k range actually use some kind of shroud either over or impregnated in the glass.  In those it is the blue light that escapes.  So no matter what they look like they're crap for effectiveness shining down the road.

I ran into that once, some years back on my truck replacement lights. I know what you mean.
I thought the technology would have improve in the last 5 years. Thanks.

[Sean M Cary]

Up yo.... ummmm, never mind.

There's not much there really.  The bulbs (#1) go in place of the old ones. 

The combination ballast/ignitor #2 goes in any convenient place you can put it.  Double sided taped somewhere against the inner fairing, tie wrapped to a bracket, just wherever it's happy and safe.

The harnesses to each (#3) will pick up power and ground.  Will fire one each from the high and low beam headlight wires.  But it's just wire.  You're not really taking up any consequential amount of space here.

The rest of the stuff shown is just the mounting, tieing or hold down bits to accomplish all of the above.

So you have to have a fairing to run these??  I figured they would fit in the headlight housing.

Sean

[Twolanerider]

So you have to have a fairing to run these??  I figured they would fit in the headlight housing.

Sean

Perhaps.  Have not had these ballasts in hand.  Nor have seen their specific wiring hook ups.  So while they'd certainly be small enough to fit inside a fairing I'd hate to tell you with any certainty for a nacelle because I simply don't know yet.  However....

This company's will: http://www.xtralights.com/

Compared to those recently discussed the Xtralight brand are more expensive.  Though they're less expensive than a lot of others seen on the market.  Lots of people here have used them since I guinea pigged and Jim became a dealer for them quite some time ago.  They will work inside of a Road King nacelle.  I can think of several here on the site who've used them and I've installed a couple.

[hard10]

Perhaps.  Have not had these ballasts in hand.  Nor have seen their specific wiring hook ups.  So while they'd certainly be small enough to fit inside a fairing I'd hate to tell you with any certainty for a nacelle because I simply don't know yet.  However....

This company's will: http://www.xtralights.com/

Compared to those recently discussed the Xtralight brand are more expensive.  Though they're less expensive than a lot of others seen on the market.  Lots of people here have used them since I guinea pigged and Jim became a dealer for them quite some time ago.  They will work inside of a Road King nacelle.  I can think of several here on the site who've used them and I've installed a couple.

Jim is a dealer for http://www.xtralights.com/

Is he a dealer for http://www.xenonlink.com/

Obviously I'd rather buy from Jim. HDdude input?

[Twolanerider]

Jim is a dealer for http://www.xtralights.com/

Is he a dealer for http://www.xenonlink.com/

Obviously I'd rather buy from Jim. HDdude input?

Give the man time .  Puzzled only discovered them a few days ago.  (hey Jim, you got them yet!?)

[hard10]

Give the man time .  Puzzled only discovered them a few days ago.  (hey Jim, you got them yet!?)

It's been 3 & 1/2 hours. Well?

[Twolanerider]

It's been 3 & 1/2 hours. Well?

Pacific Time.  It's only been 20 minutes there.... 

[Hoist!]

So you have to have a fairing to run these??  I figured they would fit in the headlight housing.

Sean

Sean, I have the ignitors installed in my Nacelle for the Xetronics HID's that I got from HDdude. You need a dual bulb housing for them, which I my bike came with.

Hoist!

[CVOJOE]

Guys, Jim (HD Dude) is really busting his gears working the shop full time now and doubt if he has a lot of free time to monitor the site chatter. Looking at his backlog in the shop and parking lot, business is good. 

[hard10]

Guys, Jim (HD Dude) is really busting his gears working the shop full time now and doubt if he has a lot of free time to monitor the site chatter. Looking at his backlog in the shop and parking lot, business is good. 

I hate when that happens.  I really am happy for him! And it's not like we're not already getting a good deal on these. I just wanted to give him my business.

[SBB]

Guys, Jim (HD Dude) is really busting his gears working the shop full time now and doubt if he has a lot of free time to monitor the site chatter. Looking at his backlog in the shop and parking lot, business is good. 

Joe and everybody else.

Jim is a busy man!
But never to busy for us.
Call him and leave a message.
When hunting for a part I always call him and he ALWAYS beats or at least meets any deal I can get.
I could not ask for better service from anyone or any company.
I go out of my way to support him and once you try him and his company you will understand why!


 
He get 5 thumbs up in the Silver and Black world!

[vagabond6542]

So after reading this thread, what was the solution for the spots?  Anybody?

Has anyone had any experiences with PIAA's bulb replacements?

[Hoist!]

So after reading this thread, what was the solution for the spots?  Anybody?

Has anyone had any experiences with PIAA's bulb replacements?

Best I found to go with the HID headlights George. PIAA Xtreme Whites.

Hoist!

[roadrunner]

What single hi/low beam headlamps are you all running?  Stock? 04 or 05?  My Flat lens tribar blackdot replacement is not deep enough for the HID dual bulb.
Thanks!

[hard10]

I've had a couple that were advertised to be that color temp.  No match though.  They are absolutely "bluer" than a standard halogen.  They're not even a close match to the HID bulbs though. 

You also have to be careful with some of these.  The blue look of the HID bulbs (or purple or most other colors) isn't really the color of the light but a byproduct that is in some controllable.  The "white" light is still out there.  That's important because a truly blue light would be about the worst thing possible for us to actually see with.

Many of the halogen bulbs that are made to look blue or have a color temp in the 8000k range actually use some kind of shroud either over or impregnated in the glass.  In those it is the blue light that escapes.  So no matter what they look like they're crap for effectiveness shining down the road.

2LN, do we have a verdict yet? Has anyone used the Xenonlink lights yet? I want to buy them tomorrow.


edited to fix link

[hard10]

Right here Don!

Can you hear me now?

[hard10]

2LN, do we have a verdict yet? Has anyone used the Xenonlink lights yet? I want to buy them tomorrow.

Well Don, just PM'd me my answer that they are on the way to him.

Chuck, are you watching this? One more thing for your todo list. 

[Twolanerider]

Saw the PM before I saw the thread.  Was on the phone rather than paying attention to my CVOsponsibilities. 

[Sean M Cary]

Well Don, just PM'd me my answer that they are on the way to him.

Chuck, are you watching this? One more thing for your todo list. 

For 75.00 I am going to try one for my KLR - after riding in this morning in the rain and dark I have come to appreciate that I don't mind riding in the rain, and I don't mind riding in the dark, it's the combination of the two that really makes your a$$ pucker.

Will report back what I find - if they hold up on my KLR, they will hold up on my SERK...

Sean

[hard10]

Ok, maybe I'm over thinking this but... if I order the H9 8000k automotive kit that comes with 2 bulbs (which I have) won't both bulbs act as high beams? Or is it that one bulb is constantly on (low beam) and then the second bulb is activated when the high beam switch is thrown? Would I not need two different wattage bulbs?
TIA, AJ

[Twolanerider]

Ok, maybe I'm over thinking this but... if I order the H9 8000k automotive kit that comes with 2 bulbs (which I have) won't both bulbs act as high beams? Or is it that one bulb is constantly on (low beam) and then the second bulb is activated when the high beam switch is thrown? Would I not need two different wattage bulbs?
TIA, AJ

AJ, especially with the HID bulbs there's not a lot of difference between them.  In your dual bulb housing the upper bulb (low beam) will be on all the time.  The lower bulb (high beam) will only come on when you flip the switch to high beam (I know, d'uh!).

The significant difference in what they look like in their shine down the road isn't the bulbs.  It's the reflector behind them.  The light housing itself.  The focus of the two parts of the housing is much much different.  The high beam "pocket" focuses a much narrower beam much farther down the road.  The wider background for the low beam bulb spreads a much wider arc of light.

[hard10]

You are Johnny-on-the-spot tonight!  (All puns intended) 

[Twolanerider]

You are Johnny-on-the-spot tonight!  (All puns intended) 

Because of their focus there's one other thing to remember with the HIDs.  I'm sure your tech will take care of this .  But for others that might swap them later on their own....

Expect to have to raise the headlight adjustment WAY up.  The "break" line for the HIDs has generally been much lower than the halogens were.  It's been very common for the spring behind the top headlight adjustor screw to have to be shortened significantly to have enough adjustment to get the light where you want it.

[hard10]

Because of their focus there's one other thing to remember with the HIDs.  I'm sure your tech will take care of this .  But for others that might swap them later on their own....

Expect to have to raise the headlight adjustment WAY up.  The "break" line for the HIDs has generally been much lower than the halogens were.  It's been very common for the spring behind the top headlight adjustor screw to have to be shortened significantly to have enough adjustment to get the light where you want it.

I will be sure to let him know next Thursday. That's when he'll be doing this installation, right before my meeting the following morning at TRAXXION's!!!
Then it's a fun filled weekend riding with my buddy in Hotlanta with a whole new front end on my bike.

[Twolanerider]

I will be sure to let him know next Thursday. That's when he'll be doing this installation, right before my meeting the following morning at TRAXXION's!!!
Then it's a fun filled weekend riding with my buddy in Hotlanta with a whole new front end on my bike.

That's a nice pair of upgrades to look forward to AJ.  If your experience is anything like mine you'll love the difference.  Have fun with it man !

[hard10]

That's a nice pair of upgrades to look forward to AJ.  If your experience is anything like mine you'll love the difference.  Have fun with it man !

Not to let my cropped hair Jarhead friend out techno-savvy me, I posted a pix for him. 

After installing the Bitubo's, I'm really looking forward to getting the Traxxion's done.

[Sean M Cary]

Not to let my cropped hair Jarhead friend out techno-savvy me, I posted a pix for him. 

After installing the Bitubo's, I'm really looking forward to getting the Traxxion's done.

 

[bunt]

Because of their focus there's one other thing to remember with the HIDs.  I'm sure your tech will take care of this .  But for others that might swap them later on their own....

Expect to have to raise the headlight adjustment WAY up.  The "break" line for the HIDs has generally been much lower than the halogens were.  It's been very common for the spring behind the top headlight adjustor screw to have to be shortened significantly to have enough adjustment to get the light where you want it.

Thanks for this information Don, I cranked mine all the way in and still felt it needed to have more.

[Twolanerider]

Thanks for this information Don, I cranked mine all the way in and still felt it needed to have more.

It probably does need more.  Wouldn't be uncommon at all.  On my own I ended up shortening the spring by almost half it's length.  Have taken at least two or three coils off three others.  Trust your eyes and not Harley's idea of how long the spring should be.

[hard10]

I just spoke to the people at: www.xenonlink.com and they couldn't have been nicer. My order that was placed over the weekend will be shipping today and should be here before I leave for my technical guru's house in Hotlanta on Thursday!  They said that if anyone in our group needed assistance with placing an order or technical advice to call them direct: We can be reached at 1.510.440.1553.
Hope this helps.
AJ

[Hoist!]

Thanks AJ. I just spoke to them. There is no sealed beam replacement HID. You need to buy a new housing using replacable bulbs to convert to HID. So right now, the WG's out, the Pro Street's out, and not sure what the FXR comes with, but I'd venture to say it's sealed bem unit too. Damn!

Hoist!

[Sean M Cary]

Thanks AJ. I just spoke to them. There is no sealed beam replacement HID. You need to buy a new housing using replacable bulbs to convert to HID. So right now, the WG's out, the Pro Street's out, and not sure what the FXR comes with, but I'd venture to say it's sealed bem unit too. Damn!

Hoist!

I'll let you know how my KLR works...it's freakin anemic right now.

Sean

[hard10]

For those of you that are interested in this setup, I spoke to www.xenonlink.com and there is a Group Buy if anyone is interested.

[hard10]

Oh, I almost forgot. The lights came in yesterday. 2 day shipping from California! On time as promised! I'm not quite sure where the ballasts are going to mount yet. They felt kinda heavy. I should get them done over the weekend if all goes well tomorrow at Traxxion's. I should be on the road in about 11 hours!

[Eqcons]

Chuck was going to try HID spots but the bulbs wouldn't fit in the light housings.  This mftr might (or might not) be different there.  Using HIDs in the spots would also mean another pair of ballasts inside the fairing.  If I knew the bulbs would fit I'd do it anyway.  Especially for the cost of this mftr's kits.

I was sure I'd read on here than somebody actually had done it, Don - must have been mistaken.  I wonder if the HID could be hid in the HDI spots? (Just had to say that!  ) Ours are H3 bulbs, you might recall.  I have the non-HDI HD HID (getting better!  ) dual reflector unit, and I've changed the pathetic 35w main beam to a blue (8k supposedly) 55w, and wired it so main and low beams are on together. I also changed the spots from the standard 35w H3 to 55w (again, blue, 8k supposedly) bulbs, and wired them so they stay on of main beam too.  The colour match of the three bulbs is not even close to the HID - they look very white, the HID looks greenish.

So on main beam I have 165w of conventional halogen + the HID low on.  And the lights are still not great..... I'd like to convert high beam and the two spots to HID, so it would be nice to find a low-cost kit like this that would go in the HDI spot housings...

Jim

[TN]

i came up with this when researching my hid, it's why i choose the 6500k. and i know not to believe everything but i sure like my double hid's on the fltr.

• The unit of the color temperature is K.
• The unit of the brightness is lumen.
• Because the sensitivity of the eye for different color is distinct, the color
temperature is too high for the eye to be sensitive, for example, the
lumen of 4300K is 3200lm, but it cuts down to 2200lm when it is
12000K.
• Do not mistake that the higher the color temperature, the brighter the
light. The color temperature is only related to the temperature of the
light color, not to the brightness.
• To an extent, the higher the color temperature, the lower the lumen,
and the penetration of the fog and raining would be worse.
• The penetration of the 3000K (golden light) is good, fitting for the fog
and raining. However, this is just for the distance, not for the bright
lighting, it is tired for the eye after a long time driving.
• We recommend the color temperature of 6000K.
• The surface temperature of the sun is 6000K, it is the same color
temperature as 6000K.
• Color temperature of the halogen lamp is 2800K

TN

[Chief]

i came up with this when researching my hid, it's why i choose the 6500k. and i know not to believe everything but i sure like my double hid's on the fltr.

• The unit of the color temperature is K.
• The unit of the brightness is lumen.
• Because the sensitivity of the eye for different color is distinct, the color
temperature is too high for the eye to be sensitive, for example, the
lumen of 4300K is 3200lm, but it cuts down to 2200lm when it is
12000K.
• Do not mistake that the higher the color temperature, the brighter the
light. The color temperature is only related to the temperature of the
light color, not to the brightness.
• To an extent, the higher the color temperature, the lower the lumen,
and the penetration of the fog and raining would be worse.
• The penetration of the 3000K (golden light) is good, fitting for the fog
and raining. However, this is just for the distance, not for the bright
lighting, it is tired for the eye after a long time driving.
• We recommend the color temperature of 6000K.
• The surface temperature of the sun is 6000K, it is the same color
temperature as 6000K.
• Color temperature of the halogen lamp is 2800K

TN

I've got the 4300k and AJ has the 8000k. It will be a good comparison tomorrow when we install his. Even the 4300 makes the spots look dingy and yellow. I'm sure the 8000 will be even more drastic.

[spydglide]

Is the amt. of heat these give off a potential problem in the housing in any way?    spyder

[TN]

Is the amt. of heat these give off a potential problem in the housing in any way?    spyder

i think its less heat for me. the best part bout the hids are the roadsigns look like there lighted.

less power draw too.


TN