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[Hoist!]

Alright, WTF happened here last night? We now have lost a valuable member here! Why?

Last night, after showing off some vacation pics, Brian (103tHunDer) stepped down as mod after getting razzed about locking his thread for some uninterrupted picture posting. Well. we all can't do that. Only mods can. Big friggin deal. But some got miffed, and gave him a hard time about it.

Well, it seems to have gotten out of hand though. Brian's name is now in Black. He musta deleted himself. Some of us can take each others BS better than others. Some ignore it, some fight back, some quit. I choose the first 2 options. I ain't lettin' any of ya'll skeer me away from something I love.

But we gotta be thinking about those that might not take it as well. Sometimes what is good-natured fun to one, turns into a nasty assault as viewed by another.

Don't know what to say otherwise. I for one just think it' a damn shame that we lost Brian, and I hate to see him gone!!! There was no need for it to get this far!!!

Hoist!

[BalDeagle]

I must have missed this, but it sure is a shame if Brian has deleted himself from the forum.

Try to remember that whilst everyone has an opinion it doesn't have to be yours Brian.

Get yourself back in here.

Nige

[ccr]

I am sorry to hear of this.  Don't know what happened or why, but I really wish the self removal was not an option.  Need a 72 or 80 hour cooling off period to be allowed to actually delete your membership from this site.  I consider Brian to be one of my friends and so his not being here to share will be missed and unnecesarily.  If one gets upset about anything, we can all just step away, turn the computer off and go for a ride or something.  Not need to delete your personna completely.

Just my humble opinion of course.  :

[miker]

Mulligan's .....cimminey! 

[RJ749]

Ah geez, I knew somethin' was up when I was enjoying Brian's pics of the Shiloh post.

Figured if I kept lookin' I'd find some BS reason for the whole thing, guess this sums it up.

  over

Jus' can't seem to get everyone to play nice I guess.............................

[16HD117]

I am sorry to hear of this.  Don't know what happened or why, but I really wish the self removal was not an option.  Need a 72 or 80 hour cooling off period to be allowed to actually delete your membership from this site.  I consider Brian to be one of my friends and so his not being here to share will be missed and unnecesarily.  If one gets upset about anything, we can all just step away, turn the computer off and go for a ride or something.  Not need to delete your personna completely.

Just my humble opinion of course.  :

From what I understand this one instance is not the reason that Brian deleted his account.  Seems that this was just the "last straw".  There's a lot of things on this site that go on in the background in the form of PM's and emails that most of don't see.

I really hope things can be worked out with Brian!  This site will not be the same without him!  I consider Brian a good friend, a friend that I will stand by!
 

[SPIDERMAN]

Since I seem to be in the center of this firestorm, let me say a couple of things.

 I have never sent Brian (103tHunDer) a negative PM. I don't believe I've ever had a negative thing to say to him on the site or in person. In case anyone's forgotten, it was me who organized the t-shirt thank you for him in MV06.

Having said that, I saw the thread Brian started and wanted to jump in and post. For one thing, the shine on Brian's 00 SERG was incredible. Another was seeing a fellow 07 RG Pumpkin rider - - - and so on. Not being able to was akin to being asked over to someone's house to view slides and being told to shut up. I didn't agree with that and I said so. Also, I thought we aired out the issue of special perks for the Mods during the Twolane incident. So that was a part of it.

Now if anyone thinks I was sitting around twisting my mustache like Simon Legree trying to think of ways to cause hate and discontent they are out in Pluto somewhere.

I've posted damn near 6,000 posts, and I really think by now at least a few people might have caught on that I say what's on my mind and come what may. I also would think that a few people might give me just a wee bit of credit for being a stand up biker and good man.

I'm sorry this was the last straw for Brian, but it was the 1st straw from me, so I refuse to take a beating over it. If Brian was offended then I truly apologize, but I'm not about to grovel, not for Brian, not for anyone 

B B 

[porthole]

In case anyone's forgotten, it was me who organized the t-shirt thank you for him in MV06.

And a fine jester it was, although his wife is probably still up in arms over the "stack"

[SPIDERMAN]

And a fine jester it was, although his wife is probably still up in arms over the "stack"

rumor has it he had to remove some of the old stock 

B B

[porthole]

I am sorry to hear of this.  Don't know what happened or why, but I really wish the self removal was not an option.  Need a 72 or 80 hour cooling off period to be allowed to actually delete your membership from this site.  I consider Brian to be one of my friends and so his not being here to share will be missed and unnecesarily.  If one gets upset about anything, we can all just step away, turn the computer off and go for a ride or something.  Not need to delete your personna completely.

Just my humble opinion of course.  :

I'm with Candy 100% 

[porthole]

rumor has it he had to remove some of the old stock 

B B

I wouldn't be surprised.

I thought I had a picture of him with the pile, can't find it.

Someone else have it?? Would be a good shot here, kind of let those that were not there see the warm cozy feeling a bunch of strangers can have 

[iski]

Too darn bad - appears 103tHunDer deleted himself.  Possibly there is a reason for it we do not know about unrelated to the "locked thread" deal which I read & chuckled at but did not post in. 




Maybe I should have started that Sensitivity Thread" after all.   

[SPIDERMAN]

Too darn bad - appears 103tHunDer deleted himself.  Possibly there is a reason for it we do not know about unrelated to the "locked thread" deal which I read & chuckled at but did not post in. 




Maybe I should have started that Sensitivity Thread" after all.   

Life is most often like an iceberg iski. It's what you don't see below the surface causing all the problems

[iski]

Life is most often like an iceberg iski. It's what you don't see below the surface causing all the problems

Agreed BB.  Calm is sometimes a thin mask for chaos.

[Fired00d]

I wouldn't be surprised.

I thought I had a picture of him with the pile, can't find it.

Someone else have it?? Would be a good shot here, kind of let those that were not there see the warm cozy feeling a bunch of strangers can have 

Thought I'd never find this...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

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[Bubba]

Thought I'd never find this...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

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What a GREAT TIME we had.....

[Fired00d]

Bubba,
It certainly was.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

Just in case anyone wants to take a trip down memory lane to see more pictures of the event I got the picture of Brian (103tHunDer) receiving his t-shirts check out this thread - Maggie Valley 2006.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[RJ749]

Bubba,
It certainly was.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Wish I had made it, but my T-Shirt from Bellingham Harley sure did   (Thanks 2Ln, or was it d00d, or  oh never mind; It made it)

[BalDeagle]

That's a great picture Dood. Just look at all those happy smiling faces - and all natural, not posed for the camera.

Happy days methinks.

Nige

[16HD117]

Since I seem to be in the center of this firestorm, let me say a couple of things.

 I have never sent Brian (103tHunDer) a negative PM. I don't believe I've ever had a negative thing to say to him on the site or in person. In case anyone's forgotten, it was me who organized the t-shirt thank you for him in MV06.
Having said that, I saw the thread Brian started and wanted to jump in and post. For one thing, the shine on Brian's 00 SERG was incredible. Another was seeing a fellow 07 RG Pumpkin rider - - - and so on. Not being able to was akin to being asked over to someone's house to view slides and being told to shut up. I didn't agree with that and I said so. Also, I thought we aired out the issue of special perks for the Mods during the Twolane incident. So that was a part of it.

Now if anyone thinks I was sitting around twisting my mustache like Simon Legree trying to think of ways to cause hate and discontent they are out in Pluto somewhere.

I've posted damn near 6,000 posts, and I really think by now at least a few people might have caught on that I say what's on my mind and come what may. I also would think that a few people might give me just a wee bit of credit for being a stand up biker and good man.

I'm sorry this was the last straw for Brian, but it was the 1st straw from me, so I refuse to take a beating over it. If Brian was offended then I truly apologize, but I'm not about to grovel, not for Brian, not for anyone 

B B 

Brian,
I think you're mistaken!  I organized the collection of T-shirts for Brian in 06.  Several months before MV I PMed Neal to get his input and approval for doing something for Brian for all his efforts in organizing the MV gathering.  I also sent PM's to all registered attendees asking if they would be interested in bringing a T to MV for Brian.  The day of the BBQ, Chip and Nancy helped me collect all the T's and Nancy presented them to Brian that afternoon.

[Tbone]

Brian,
I think you're mistaken!  I organized the collection of T-shirts for Brian in 06.  Several months before MV I PMed Neal to get his input and approval for doing something for Brian for all his efforts in organizing the MV gathering.  I also sent PM's to all registered attendees asking if they would be interested in bringing a T to MV for Brian.  The day of the BBQ, Chip and Nancy helped me collect all the T's and Nancy presented them to Brian that afternoon.

September 17, 2006 to be exact. 

[porthole]

That's a great picture Dood. Just look at all those happy smiling faces - and all natural, not posed for the camera.

That is my wife with the bottle in her hands on one of her better days.

I'm sure the thoughts were the trouble Brian is in when Mrs 103 sees the pile (of course I am not speaking form "t-shirt" experience here).

Left to right I think we have:

JR (beret), Jorge, Brian 103, , Nancy - Mrs SBB, me, Neal as in #1 Neal - "Naitrm" as in the first member of the internationally famous CVO Owners Group website, and all around good guy,  Mrs Porthole, ?

[porthole]

Thought I'd never find this...

Yeah right, like you had any doubts 

[Fired00d]

Yeah right, like you had any doubts 

Hehehehe.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[SBB]

Left to right I think we have:

, Neal as in #1

He may be #1 to us but don't mention it to him.
He doesn't like notoriety.
And if I hadn't said it lately,
Thanks Naitram for starting this site!

SBB

[erniezap]

He may be #1 to us but don't mention it to him.
He doesn't like notoriety.
And if I hadn't said it lately,
Thanks Naitram for starting this site!

SBB

No chit!!!

[porthole]

He may be #1 to us but don't mention it to him.
He doesn't like notoriety.

Duly noted and corrected 

[Fired00d]

I wouldn't be surprised.

I thought I had a picture of him with the pile, can't find it.

Someone else have it?? Would be a good shot here, kind of let those that were not there see the warm cozy feeling a bunch of strangers can have 

Another one...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

And another...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[SPIDERMAN]

Brian,
I think you're mistaken!  I organized the collection of T-shirts for Brian in 06.  Several months before MV I PMed Neal to get his input and approval for doing something for Brian for all his efforts in organizing the MV gathering.  I also sent PM's to all registered attendees asking if they would be interested in bringing a T to MV for Brian.  The day of the BBQ, Chip and Nancy helped me collect all the T's and Nancy presented them to Brian that afternoon.

You know something, I have never been one to seek credit, and especially not for something I wasn't responsible for. At the time of the organization of MV and pre event, I had undergone total knee replacement surgery and was taking percocet. In my mind, I recall sending Mrs We a PM that we should organize a thank you for Brian and that became the T-shirt give. If I am incorrect and my memory is drug addled then I sincerely apologize

B B

[JCZ]

Alright, WTF happened here last night? We now have lost a valuable member here! Why?

Last night, after showing off some vacation pics, Brian (103tHunDer) stepped down as mod after getting razzed about locking his thread for some uninterrupted picture posting. Well. we all can't do that. Only mods can. Big friggin deal. But some got miffed, and gave him a hard time about it.

Well, it seems to have gotten out of hand though. Brian's name is now in Black. He musta deleted himself. Some of us can take each others BS better than others. Some ignore it, some fight back, some quit. I choose the first 2 options. I ain't lettin' any of ya'll skeer me away from something I love.

But we gotta be thinking about those that might not take it as well. Sometimes what is good-natured fun to one, turns into a nasty assault as viewed by another.

Don't know what to say otherwise. I for one just think it' a damn shame that we lost Brian, and I hate to see him gone!!! There was no need for it to get this far!!!

Hoist!

Good post Hoist.  I can tell you that Brian will be missed by many here.  However, he's not the first to leave here.....for similar reasons.  I think you make a good suggestion that we need to take a look at our behavior and actions and how it affects others.  I may have a ways to go but I've certainly taken a look at some of the issues that have been pointed out to me and some from a little self insight, over the past three or four years.  It would be great if we could get to a place like it used to be, where everybody got along and everybody treated everybody else with respect or at least courtesy.

[SPIDERMAN]

Good post Hoist.  I can tell you that Brian will be missed by many here.  However, he's not the first to leave here.....for similar reasons.  I think you make a good suggestion that we need to take a look at our behavior and actions and how it affects others.  I may have a ways to go but I've certainly taken a look at some of the issues that have been pointed out to me and some from a little self insight, over the past three or four years.  It would be great if we could get to a place like it used to be, where everybody got along and everybody treated everybody else with respect or at least courtesy.

JC
    If you read my very first post on the thread I started on the issue of locking a thread at inception, I think you'd have to agree that the manner in which I addressed the issue was not disrespectful. A couple of latter posts intended to contain a bit of leg pulling might have gotten misinterpreted, but still, if we can't speak our minds on issues where are we ? I'll take my lumps, knocks, what have you if someone disagrees, but to suggest that we treat this site like a church social is pure BS. We've been around and around on this many many times since I joined the site and it was my understanding that barring personal insult we could agree to disagree. At the heart of this issue is that someone I like and enjoyed meeting and riding with did something on the site I disagreed with and I said so. I had no ill will toward that member nor any hidden agenda to cause discontent or harmony on the site. A couple other members evidently felt the same way as they posted on my thread to more or less the same mindset. At the end of the day, I'd be very disappointed to think that someone who took issue at something I said or did would not speak to me about it "for the sake of the site " . That's not real life and it shouldn't be this site either.

Just my $0.02


B B

[JCZ]

JC
    If you read my very first post on the thread I started on the issue of locking a thread at inception, I think you'd have to agree that the manner in which I addressed the issue was not disrespectful. A couple of latter posts intended to contain a bit of leg pulling might have gotten misinterpreted, but still, if we can't speak our minds on issues where are we ? I'll take my lumps, knocks, what have you if someone disagrees, but to suggest that we treat this site like a church social is pure BS. We've been around and around on this many many times since I joined the site and it was my understanding that barring personal insult we could agree to disagree. At the heart of this issue is that someone I like and enjoyed meeting and riding with did something on the site I disagreed with and I said so. I had no ill will toward that member nor any hidden agenda to cause discontent or harmony on the site. A couple other members evidently felt the same way as they posted on my thread to more or less the same mindset. At the end of the day, I'd be very disappointed to think that someone who took issue at something I said or did would not speak to me about it "for the sake of the site " . That's not real life and it shouldn't be this site either.

Just my $0.02


B B

I viewed Hoists comment in a borader scope and I replied in a broader scope.  I apologize if you took it personal.  But now that you bring it up, I will say that I think you'd have been much more successful communicating your concern to Brian via a PM.

I never said anything about a church social and I'm not sure where you got that from.  What I said is "treat everybody else with respect or at least courtesy".  I realize that may be a far reach for some, but it's just a suggestion.

And you are right, we can agree to disagree and still be courteous.  Again, my conversation was on a broader scale and not intended to be directed at you as an individual but rather a plea to the masses here.

[16HD117]

You know something, I have never been one to seek credit, and especially not for something I wasn't responsible for. At the time of the organization of MV and pre event, I had undergone total knee replacement surgery and was taking percocet. In my mind, I recall sending Mrs We a PM that we should organize a thank you for Brian and that became the T-shirt give. If I am incorrect and my memory is drug addled then I sincerely apologize

B B

Someone told me that medication my have been involved in this!
 
Apology accepted....
 

[MJZ]

  Kids, don't make me come up there!

That's it, your grounded for this weekend!

[Gettinold]

Lets just see if he comes back and not point fingers.   

[Gettinold]

That is my wife with the bottle in her hands on one of her better days.
I'm sure the thoughts were the trouble Brian is in when Mrs 103 sees the pile (of course I am not speaking form "t-shirt" experience here).

Left to right I think we have:

JR (beret), Jorge, Brian 103, , Nancy - Mrs SBB, me, Neal as in #1 Neal - "Naitrm" as in the first member of the internationally famous CVO Owners Group website, and all around good guy,  Mrs Porthole, ?

Duane not too sure about this.....    

[porthole]

Duane not too sure about this.....    

Which part 

[Gettinold]

Which part 

The part of her hitting the bottle on one of her better days. Good grief. 

[porthole]

The part of her hitting the bottle on one of her better days. Good grief. 

I doubt she even finished the one beer - too many meds.
I was referring the the smile - laugh. Actually I'm surprised she even made it to the BBQ.

We were riding earlier trying to cross 441 into Gatlinburg, she got so cold going up the mountain we had to turn around!

[SBB]

Someone told me that medication my have been involved in this!
 
Apology accepted....
 

Tommy

I can vouch for him.
There was a lot of medication.
And he wasn't sharing!

 

[Twolanerider]

I can tell you that Brian will be missed by many here. 

JC, have you spoken with 103 and know more then is in the public discussion?  In his last message 103 didn't say he was gone forever.  He's turned "off" his login previously to take a little break and come back in better spirits.  He's also dropped the moderator's gig and came back to it before.  From what he'd written it seemed he was only taking another break.  Any reason to assume otherwise?

[RJ749]

Personally it I think it's like being an amateur referee at a hockey game or an umpire at some pick up game or little league game.  I don't know how the volunteers in those venues do it myself.  Having done those in the past I know I don't have the energy for it.  You do your best but you can't please evryone regardless of how fair and unbiased you feel you are.

We are all good natured in our own ways and no one "really" means to cut one way or the other, but we have witnessed the times that one person rubs another the wrong way and it carries on and on for a bit too long.

I hope we don't have member losses here just like many have said and I emailed Brian and told him exactly that.  I hope with a bit of time and water under the proverbial bridge that he feels the void and makes his way back here to active status and all of his friends.

Hopefully that is what happens.  I don't believe anyone meant for it to come to this and it is unfortunate that it did.

All of that said, I personally don't see that any good will come of dissecting it any further than has been.  It looks to me that most here if not all would like to see Brian active.

I think I'll go find a thread to hijack or whatever and leave the passing of 103 to a distant memory for now.

[Twolanerider]

personally don't see that any good will come of dissecting it any further than has been

Could not agree more Roger.  103 made a choice.  We should respect that either way.  I still expect that it's a choice to just take a break and come back refreshed.  He's exercised that right in various fashions before.  But its not for us to judge his choices.

[FLYNDYNA]

We're just a big family...he'll be back, ya can't leave family!
Thanks to all moderators for your wonderful work.
A special thanks to Neal for starting this awesome site!

Flyndyna

[pumkinownerswife]

We had been talking about the importance of family, and making time to see your parents. That point was driven home to me and my family when my father failed a stress test. The doctors figured there was a little blockage and that he would need Angioplasty or a stint to correct the problem. On Monday April 14 at 7:15 p.m., my mother called in a panic...they rushed my dad to Bon Secour hospital just outside of Richmond to do a quadruple bypass, he had 95% blockage in the main artery, and 75-80% in the other three. My wife and I quickly threw stuff in the truck, grabbed the dog & drove the two hours down to the Montross/Northern Neck area to be with my mom and to see my dad the next day. Needless to say, it was a very emotional time. We saw my dad at 9:00 a.m. the next morning. My sister and her husband were there, as well as the minister from my parents church. I've only seen my dad weep one other time, he was so scared!
  It was unbelieveable to all of us, as "Poppy" Walker is one of those "larger than life" figures who never takes a break, he constantly has something he is working on. I grew up in a time when black haired men ruled the earth with iron-fisted diligence, their booming voices likened to the rolling of thunder to my mind. As tough as iron, these men were the leaders of the family, and great examples of strength and fortitude.
  He is now in ICU, in alot of pain...but he is ALIVE! My dream has been to ride with him, me on my 07 Dyna CVO and him on his custom built three wheeler (when it finally gets completed). He sold his Road King a few years ago and invested in having a three wheeler built. The guy building it has had to put the project off for long periods of time, so I am going to go down and beg him to finish it soon. my wife and I have decided to create a Declaration making April 15th National Poppy's Day, that will give us one more reason to be with my mother and father. Precious are the days we have with our loved ones, don't take them for granted! I am extremely grateful to be a member of this site, which has taught me daily the value of human kindness, friendship and family.
Much love to all...
Flyndyna
 
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I thought this could make everyone see how insignificant the little things are in life and know we are blessed if we still have our loved ones and good friends. I ask that everyone here just be a good friend and be a one big Happy family because life really dishes out some crap as I say so we need to just have fun here. Thats all please be happy and stop all the fussing it is really not worth it.

Helen

[Hoist!]

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I thought this could make everyone see how insignificant the little things are in life and know we are blessed if we still have our loved ones and good friends. I ask that everyone here just be a good friend and be a one big Happy family because life really dishes out some crap as I say so we need to just have fun here. Thats all please be happy and stop all the fussing it is really not worth it.

Helen

Thanks for that Helen. Finally nothing personal and a voice of reason. I hope ya'll hear her. A wise woman, I'm sure way beyond her years!

Hoist!